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Bairney The Dinosaur

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  1. 35 minutes ago, Van_damage said:

    Ultimately the most important part moving forward is that lessons have been learned however upon listening to the podcast it seems the blame has been pushed at members for getting the wrong end of the stick more than any miscommunication.

    Caveat this with I haven't listened to the podcast so don't know what was said, but my understanding is that it wasn't the 25% target that was misunderstood but how to get there. 

    The misunderstanding was that for FSS to get to 25% they would require share donation rather than buying the shares from the club. 

    I agree with you though that this was on FSS for not communicating that clearly rather than members not understanding.

  2. 12 minutes ago, Disco Duck said:

    Apart from, y’know, issue more shares in return for the cash.

    Yeah I guess, but I can see why the club doesn't want to do that. The statement talks about endlessly issuing shares as disproportionately inflating our market value (or something like that).

  3. 13 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

    Interesting statement. Not sure how well the FSS subscriptions now being solely a donation to the club with the FSS membership having effectively no say on how they are spent will go down. Tbh I am surprised that has been agreed to.

    Now that the shares have been bought there are very little other options available other than donation. It is what happens with most fan owned clubs.

    Short-term focus on keeping us full-time but driving towards establishment of Falkirk Academy is what was discussed at the members meeting.

  4. 1 hour ago, Mr Grimsdale said:

    BPM? Anyway good try. But the fans are not just FSS are they? We 100% have to stick together I agree. But there is 80% + of the support not in FSS so the Board has a duty to look after all the parts. FSS reps would always take feedback from the members. I assume they meet with the FSS committee on a regular basis to get the feedback? What I want to see is everyone working together. 

    Just a bit of fun 😉

    I took umbrage at what I perceived was a suggestion FSS doesn't need a strong personality who would speak for and garner the support of the fans.

    I'm especially sensitive at the moment that there are attempts circling again to paint football fans as some deviant other - not the club obviously, but wider authorities. It is going to require the same backlash as the OBFTC Act.

  5. 36 minutes ago, Mr Grimsdale said:

    Rabble rousing Mick Lynch’s are the last thing this club or the fans needs currently 

    Can't agree with you there BPM.

    Now, more than ever, we've got Governments prepared to legislate against not only fans wishes, but fans themselves! Ensuring we've got a board who will not only stand against that (which to their credit the new board have), but can empower the support to stand together is a vital aim of a fan owned club. 

  6. 27 minutes ago, Hartleys18/19Army said:

    Also what was Mcglynns issue in a post match interview saying perhaps Allan has a discipline issue? Sent off for us but on another day gets away with it. At past he was trying to do something about the scoreline. 

    I took that more to mean that he thought there may be an issue with whoever issues the suspension because Allan's actions didn't deserve a 3 match suspension.

  7. 1 hour ago, Barr said:

    Im due to sit down with Jamie this afternoon for a catch up pod, any questions for him that I’ll add to my list?

    Once things start to become a bit more stable in terms of finances what would be the first 'off the field' project he would like to see at the club.

  8. 1 hour ago, Springfield said:

    I might be completely wrong but if the board think that they’ll get the minus 400K shortfall made up with FSS subscribers, they need to give themselves a shake.

    A few weeks back at the Fan Engagement Day Kenny Jamieson did a presentation and a good chunk of it was related to the 400k shortfall. Previously just about everything the board has said regarding the shortfall has been around the number of FSS subscribers needed to fill it, but it was a bit different this time. He started talking about FSS and the subscriptions increasing, however instead of just focusing on this being used to plug the gap, he seemed to suggest that if FSS began to significantly increase he expected other shareholders (I took it to mean PG and old MSG) would consider investing more too. Therefore we would see all 3 'legs of the stool' providing continual investment.

    Seemed to me a much more realistic and desirable way to operate.

  9. 15 minutes ago, Proudtobeabairn said:

    It's an impressive total but actual figure (when you take out the free under 12s) would be interesting. That's the number we need to grow. 

    I seem to remember U18s estimated to be around 1/5th of total sales. Purely assuming that the breakdown of ages will be roughly the same I think an educated guess of 330ish U12s seems fair. Wouldn't think it would be more than that.

  10. It's not really been touched on much by the board, other than a brief mention of 'soft loans' last seasons, but I wonder hope much scope there is for continual investment from the Patrons Group. One of the benefits of the '3 legged stool' is having these slightly more flush fans active in the club, but we haven't really heard much from them since that initial investment. 

    I expect they have been providing in some way and keeping it behind closed doors, but I'd quite like to find out what they've been doing.

  11. 3 minutes ago, Chinatoon Bairn said:

    Drum is coming in trial period regardless of what's said here. Looking at a total of ~60 in the group to start it off.

    Not a fan of the drums myself but I would say that is fair. At this point with the group just starting up there should be no discouragement from the wider support.

  12. 14 minutes ago, Chinatoon Bairn said:


    • A real chance of an ultras style group happening with the majority of it already been discussed from the fans side, club are open to it and will support it with the necessary space.
    • Drums and megaphone are a yes if the group wish to have them, no issues on the club front.

    Great! Really hope they can get a good group sorted.

    Please no drum.

  13. 2 minutes ago, Tea and Busquets said:

    Sounded like from the Q and A that McGlynn will get the full year no matter how poorly we will get. I rated that question from the guy.

    Not what I took from their answer.

    It was a diplomatic 'if we got to the point that we were struggling it would assessed'. They then caveated that by saying the assessment hypothetical could show that McGlynn was still the best option.

  14. 24 minutes ago, RC55 FFC said:

    New shares can be created though, which I think they should be if FSS or Patrons wish to invest money in post the last share being sold. 

    Yeah more could be created but got to make sure that neither FSS or Patrons start to dwarf the other shareholders. 3rd leg of the stool is still important.

    Personally I wouldn't want to see either group move past a 33% holding. 26% remains to me the magic number for either group and would be happy at both holding that.

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