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4 minutes ago, The DA said:
What have I started? Apologies, all.
Not at all, it is a simple question, the harder question is what those changes will be, anyone know?
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9 minutes ago, craigkillie said:
Of course it's not true. Why would Sky want to do this sort of thing anyway? They agreed to the deal in the first place because they want to broadcast Scottish football, why would they suddenly just change their mind and decide not to?Then it's a simple question to ask then, can the contract with SKY change in terms of payments for any difference to that agreed in the 5 year deal
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7 minutes ago, Romeo said:
How's this Sevco "evidence" coming along?
Crayon broke, sending out for more as we speak.
I understand Hearts, Rangers under Park seem as bonkers as under King
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1 minute ago, JTS98 said:
There's a difference between saying something and actually proving something.
This has been rumbling on for days now and not one person anywhere I've seen from within the SPFL or outwith the SPFL has produced one reason why the SPFL cannot give the money to its members.
Saying 'we jist cannae' doesn't cut it. It's an extraordinary thing for a private club to claim. They can do anything they want.
Again I ask, who exactly is going to stop them? Who is going to object? Who is going to punish them?
The answer to all of those questions seems to be 'nobody'.
I'm making the assumption that the final payment is based on final positions, that would be the rule, is there another rule that says what happens to that final payment if the positions cannot be determined, seems not. The offer to Rangers was to work with SPFL lawyers. There is a mechanism for clubs to get loans from the ASPFL if in need.
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15 minutes ago, craigkillie said:
It doesn't confirm anything. They haven't explained why they claim money can't be paid out if the clubs vote to do so.
It does confirm they cannot pay the last instalment of money based on league position until the league is over, Rangers resolution asked for this to be paid, I cannot remember if in full based on position or in part not on position....the spfl said we cannot do that but do you want our lawyers to work with you to come up with something that might work? Rangers never replied.
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Just now, Jim McLean's Ghost said:
WTF???
So can any club just withdraw their vote after it has been received and get a another chance?
The SPFL admit they got Dundee signed vote but decided not to count it. All the evidence of jiggery pokey is right there. A valid vote was cast and they ignored it.
I would have thought you could change it up to when you cannot,ie when the deadline is reached
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2 minutes ago, Romeo said:14 minutes ago, LordHawHaw said:
Please find below correspondence from SPFL Chairman Murdoch MacLennan, which has been issued to all 42 SPFL clubs this afternoon.
TO ALL SPFL CLUBS Sunday April 12th 2020
Dear All,
I am writing to you all to correct significant misinformation appearing in the media. This misinformation is damaging to Scottish football as a whole – and to each and every member club of the SPFL. Several suggestions have been made in recent days about the treatment of a resolution requisition by Rangers FC, about fee payments to clubs, and about the votes cast by Ladbrokes Championship clubs. This letter is intended to set the record straight.
It has been suggested that the Board rushed to get a resolution out to members. In fact, the dates and times of a number of recent SPFL Board meetings were delayed specifically to ensure that one director had the time that he needed to be able to reach a decision. The SPFL Board spent around an hour discussing in great detail the resolution requisitioned by Rangers. Only then did the Board, based on clear and unequivocal advice from a QC, determine that the resolution was not effective. The Rangers director on the Board confirmed that he was content with the time given over to that discussion. He was also offered the opportunity of the SPFL’s legal counsel Rod McKenzie working with Rangers’ Company Secretary on a resolution that might be effective. To date, no further requisition has come forward from Rangers or from any other SPFL member.
It has been suggested that it is open to the SPFL Board to distribute end-of-season fee payments to clubs now, in the absence of league placings being finalised. That is simply not the case. For the Board to be able to authorise end-of-season fee payments to clubs (amounting to £9.3million gross), final league placings must be determined. Those who have suggested that the SPFL may make such payments, without a line being drawn under Season 2019/20, are wrong.
Further, it has been suggested that all Ladbrokes Championship club votes were cast on Friday night. One Ladbrokes Championship club attempted to submit a voting slip, which did not reach the SPFL until late that evening. Earlier, at 6pm on Friday, that club had confirmed in writing to the SPFL that any attempted vote from that club should not be considered as cast. We have had a number of conversations with the chairman of that club over the weekend, in which he reiterated that his club had not yet voted on the SPFL resolution. The SPFL has proceeded on the basis of the unequivocal instruction from that club received at 6pm on Friday.
At the time of writing, 40 of our 42 clubs have voted, with one Ladbrokes Championship club and one Ladbrokes League 1 / League 2 club yet to cast a vote on the SPFL resolution. They have the remainder of the 28-day period to do so, should they wish. The current level of support for the Board resolution is 85% of clubs in favour.
Offft....
Indeed. Mr Park?
2 minutes ago, JTS98 said:"That is simply not the case. For the Board to be able to authorise end-of-season fee payments to clubs (amounting to £9.3million gross), final league placings must be determined. Those who have suggested that the SPFL may make such payments, without a line being drawn under Season 2019/20, are wrong."
It is not explained here why this is the case.
What outside force is stopping the SPFL supplying this money to its member clubs?
It's a good question, maybe they dont have the end of season cash, outgoing broadcaster stumped up, new broadcaster need to be calmed they will get what they will be paying for. All guesses methinks unless it a simple rule chance that you would have thought could be accomodated easily
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Please find below correspondence from SPFL Chairman Murdoch MacLennan, which has been issued to all 42 SPFL clubs this afternoon.
TO ALL SPFL CLUBS Sunday April 12th 2020
Dear All,
I am writing to you all to correct significant misinformation appearing in the media. This misinformation is damaging to Scottish football as a whole – and to each and every member club of the SPFL. Several suggestions have been made in recent days about the treatment of a resolution requisition by Rangers FC, about fee payments to clubs, and about the votes cast by Ladbrokes Championship clubs. This letter is intended to set the record straight.
It has been suggested that the Board rushed to get a resolution out to members. In fact, the dates and times of a number of recent SPFL Board meetings were delayed specifically to ensure that one director had the time that he needed to be able to reach a decision. The SPFL Board spent around an hour discussing in great detail the resolution requisitioned by Rangers. Only then did the Board, based on clear and unequivocal advice from a QC, determine that the resolution was not effective. The Rangers director on the Board confirmed that he was content with the time given over to that discussion. He was also offered the opportunity of the SPFL’s legal counsel Rod McKenzie working with Rangers’ Company Secretary on a resolution that might be effective. To date, no further requisition has come forward from Rangers or from any other SPFL member.
It has been suggested that it is open to the SPFL Board to distribute end-of-season fee payments to clubs now, in the absence of league placings being finalised. That is simply not the case. For the Board to be able to authorise end-of-season fee payments to clubs (amounting to £9.3million gross), final league placings must be determined. Those who have suggested that the SPFL may make such payments, without a line being drawn under Season 2019/20, are wrong.
Further, it has been suggested that all Ladbrokes Championship club votes were cast on Friday night. One Ladbrokes Championship club attempted to submit a voting slip, which did not reach the SPFL until late that evening. Earlier, at 6pm on Friday, that club had confirmed in writing to the SPFL that any attempted vote from that club should not be considered as cast. We have had a number of conversations with the chairman of that club over the weekend, in which he reiterated that his club had not yet voted on the SPFL resolution. The SPFL has proceeded on the basis of the unequivocal instruction from that club received at 6pm on Friday.
At the time of writing, 40 of our 42 clubs have voted, with one Ladbrokes Championship club and one Ladbrokes League 1 / League 2 club yet to cast a vote on the SPFL resolution. They have the remainder of the 28-day period to do so, should they wish. The current level of support for the Board resolution is 85% of clubs in favour.
I have seen allegations made by the Rangers FC Interim Chairman Douglas Park, in a statement issued by Rangers at 3pm on Saturday, about the SPFL, its corporate governance, its culture, its office-bearers and its business operations. I wrote to Mr Park on Saturday evening, requesting any material to support these allegations. I regret to inform you that, at the time of writing, I have received nothing from Mr Park. It is difficult to understand why Mr Park should not wish to share this alleged material with me.
I am entirely satisfied, based on all the information at my disposal, that the SPFL and its executives and legal advisers have acted wholly properly at every stage in this process. Should any member club have evidence to the contrary they should bring it to me – indeed, I would argue they have a duty to do so – and I will deal with it in an entirely even-handed way. To do otherwise is harmful to the standing, performance and effective operation of the SPFL and runs counter to the wider interests of our game.0 -
25 minutes ago, deadasdillinger said:
Watch, as the "decent majority" of Old Filth fans flock to condemn the morons who injured a disabled fan today, or join us in laughing at that ridiculous Green Brigade banner....
It is just a small minority who give the rest a bad reputation, I'm told.
They could have picked a better verse from the Coronation cup song IMO
The Coronation CupSaid Lizzie to Phillip as they sat down to dine,
I've just had a note from an old friend of mine,
His name is 'Big Geordie' he's loyal and true,
And his dirty big nose is a light shade of blue.
He says that the Rangers are right on their game,
And ask for a trophy to add to their fame,
I'll send up a cup that the Rangers can win,
Said Phillip to Liz watch the Celts don't step in.
Said Lizzie to Phillip they don't stand a chance,
I'll send up my Gunners to lead them a dance,
With Celtic defeated the way will be clear,
A cup for the Rangers in my crowning year.
But alas for their hopes for the loyal true blues,
The Celts beat the Gunners and Manchester too,
Beat Hibs in the final and oh what a scene,
Sure Hampden was covered in banners of green.
Said Lizzie to Phillip when she heard the grim news,
A blow has been struck at our loyal true blues,
Oh tell me dear Phillip and you ought to know,
How to keep Glasgow Celtic defeated below.
Said Phillip to Lizzie there's only one way,
I've known of their secret for many a day,
To keep the Celts down you will have to deport,
The whole ****** army that gives them support.0 -
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13 minutes ago, Enigma said:
Hope Turnbull becomes an 80 cap Scotland player and a top premier league mainstay for over a decade to really get it up Celtic and the tightwad Lawell.
Not sure about tightwad in this case, good fiscal policy some would say.
Norwich awash with cash could offer the guy more, nothing wrong with looking for the best money.
Celtic should wait until we have a signature on paper before any comment would be my only negative around this
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I is distraught, season is meaningless now
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21 minutes ago, wellinwigan said:
Can't both teams just die?
One tried that, don't think they liked it.
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The rangers will be up for it, they will want a result against the champions, where as we'll be trying to make sure rangers indiscipline does not cause harm to any of our players.
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1 hour ago, nsr said:
Can Celtic and Sevco please just shag and get it over with?
Think they have been regularly shagged, and not just by Celtic , 6-1 should be remembered by yourself, one of the highlights of the banter years
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This last few pages have been interesting.
YES, it was a title party !
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5 minutes ago, gannonball said:
He stagnated at the basket case club that is Dundee under some very under par managers and coaches.
Listened to McCann have a rant on Radio Scotland yesterday about Jim McIntyres comments about previous managers and Dundee players in and out. McCann fined Bain two weeks wages after a game which he went to the PFA to fight, Bain was sidelined after that. Thank God for Neil McCann is what I'd say
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Nice cover for the programme,
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1 hour ago, Sharker said:
I think vandalising a place of worship is the very definition of a sectarian attack.
Amazing the police can make the judgement that it was non sectarian with little or no evidence especially in a city that has more anti Catholic demonstrations than any other city in the world. Although hardly surprising as the attack on the priest was categorised as a minor assault and nothing to do with the orange procession marching past the church at that time
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7 hours ago, parsforlife said:
If someone wants to stand outside chapels and scream about the wrongs of beliefs of catholicism whilst extreme and bizarre behaviour it’s ok IMO as freedom of speech.
Try it and see if the police agree with your opinion.
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I'd take the point to get the title done and dusted, the guarenteed subsequent guard of honour at Ibrox should be fun
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Another Celtic legend , and scorer of our clubs most important goal gone. Sad when the sporting heroes die.
R.I.P Stevie
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An absolute gentleman and inspirational footballer, now at peace.
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I think vandalising a place of worship is the very definition of a sectarian attack.
The SPFL vote vote
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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They would never cancel imo, although again imo, something like that is more than likely is in the contract . We have no idea what the setup will look like if the current proposal is rejected, SKY need to know what they are buying.