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The Lowland League were quick enough to propose and vote for Colt teams but havent even spoke about more promotion spots for 3 feeder leagues below! [emoji849][emoji849] The SPFL gets called out for being a Self preservation league when Lowland League probably even worse with potential for 0 or just 1 team relegated from currently an 18 team league! Why not propose for 18 team league going forward and automatic promotion from East, West & South leagues as mentioned in podcast with 3 up and 3 down. From the outside I really don't think Lowland League teams are interested in making the league more competitive as will be harder for team at top for promotion to SPFL once top East & West teams are promoted although I'd like to think Bonnyrigg and Bo'ness would love to get their local rivalries back with East teams plus renewing rivalries against likes of Talbot, Clydebank, Meadow would add a lot. For teams like Edinburgh Uni, Stirling Uni and Cumbernauld Colts they don't want to mention extra relegation spots as more likely to be relegated not just to tier 6 but tier 7 or below once they do eventually go down in a few years time. So they know once out Lowland League they likely won't be back at that level.. When moving senior West Teams should really have asked for automatic promotion as part of joining the pyramid as Lowland League teams obviously really don't want to risk chance of dropping down the leagues while West Premier Division teams have 6 or 7 relegated this season and East Premier Division teams 4 relegated from their respective top divisions.

The game v Meadow will be changed due to Senior Scottish Cup entry but a few tough games in late September / October.

Surely not?? What did the league spend it on??

As has been said now Brechin is in the Highland League I really don't get who would be pushing for a boundary change? Just Rod Petrie being a d#ck..? Arbroath and Montrose are both well away from League 2 and very good part time clubs. Forfar look like promotion contenders in League 2. Would the Highland League not also be unhappy if a "League 3" or expanded Lowland League is formed?

The Marymass Derby. Add 1 win now for Meadow but wee section in the programme. "There have been 94 Marymass matches so far. The first was played in 1921, and apart from a five year gap during the Second World War, there has been a game played on the Marymass Friday evening ever since until last season in 2020. There wasn’t much to chose between the teams before the war with Meadow winning ten and Vics seven with two draws. However since 1945 Meadow have dominated the fixture. In the following years Vics have only increased their total to 15 wins, but Meadow now stand on 74 victories, with 5 drawn games. Victoria’s longest winning run is 3 matches, between 1934 and 1936, although they were unbeaten in four as the 1933 game was a 1-1 draw. Meadow’s longest winning run is 15 games between 1979 and 1993. However they had a 20 game unbeaten run between 1955 and 1974, with only the 1969 game being a 1-1 draw. Since 2006 Meadow and Victoria have contested the Irvine Herald Trophy. This replaced the John Martin Memorial Shield which was played for between 1982 and 2005. The Herald results are as follows:- 2006 Meadow 3 v 4 Victoria H.T. 2-3 Meadow scorers; Reid, Kerr (2 inc a pen). Vics scorers; Graham (2), McIlroy, Gibson 2007 Victoria 0 v 4 Meadow H.T. 0-3 Meadow scorers; Armstrong, McGinty, Turner (2) 2008 Meadow 1 v 0 Victoria H.T. 1-0 Meadow scorer; C Robertson 2009 Victoria 0 v 1 Meadow H.T. 0-1 Meadow scorer; Boyle 2010 Meadow 3 v 1 Victoria H.T. 1-1 Meadow scorers; Strain, Ryan, McGeown. Vics scorer; Baird 2011 Victoria 4 v 6 Meadow H.T. 4-1 Victoria scorers; McAvoy (2), McGregor, Colligan. Meadow scorers; Ryan, Miller, McGuinness, Barr, Turner, Eeles. This game is the highest aggregate score in the fixture's history to date. 2012 Meadow 3 v 1 Victoria H.T. 2-1 Meadow scorers; Eeles, Hughes, McClymont. Vics Scorer; G Russell 2013 Victoria 0 v 1 Meadow H.T. 0-0 Meadow scorer; Thomson (pen) 2014 Meadow 4 v 4 Victoria H.T. 1-2 Meadow scorers; Hall, Sawyers (2 inc a pen), Thomson. Vics Scorers; Adam (2 pens), Ablorh (2). Meadow won the trophy 3-2 on penalties. Meadow penalty scorers; Sawyers, McParland, McCann. Vics penalty scorers; Adam, Davidson 2015 Victoria 1 v 4 Meadow H.T. 1-0 Vics scorer; Ablorh. Meadow scorers; McPherson (2 inc a pen), Twaddle, G McCann 2016 Meadow 4 v 3 Victoria H.T. 1-2 Meadow scorers; Hannah, Begley, Vernon (2). Vics scorers; Adam (2 inc a pen), Craig 2017 Victoria 3 v 1 Meadow H.T. 2-0 Victoria scorers; Mears, Adam (2 inc a pen). Meadow scorer; Connolly 2018 Meadow 4 v 3 Irvine Victoria Meadow scorers: Devlin, David MacKay, Begley & Graham Boyd Victoria scorers: Roddy Patterson 3 2019 Victoria 1 v 4 Irvine Meadow Victoria scorers: Ryan Morrow Meadow scorers: McLaughlin, Slooves, McTernan & Pearson The 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2014, 2015 and 2016 matches were also League Cup group games; the rest were stand alone Herald Cup ties." Why it started: "Up until 1921 both clubs had enjoyed free Marymass Saturdays to allow the people of the town head out to Irvine Moor for the races. However, in 1921 the Irvine rivals were given a league fixture for that weekend and the decision was taken to play it on the Friday evening. The decision turned out to be a great success, as The Irvine Herald reported, “Fortunately the night was ideal and there was a great crowd in Meadow Park as the teams took the field”. The teams who took part on the first Marymass Derby were (in the 2-3-5 formation of the time): Irvine Meadow XI: Syme; Paton and Wilson; Wylie, Bobbins and McDonald; Ness, Page, Scott, Ferguson and Leiper." Irvine Victoria: McKenzie; Wilson and Dickson; Craig, Dunlop and Gibson; McLaughlan, Galloway, Knox, Livingston and Beaton.

Yeah will be a decent number of our under 20s in the squad and a few of our 1st team players that need more game time or just back from injury so that playing tonight will hopefully help them get match fitness. It's 100 years since the 1st ever Marymass Derby. Will be interesting to see how our under 20s perform against Vics who no matter their league position always give 110% for Marymass game and always competitive. Some information on 1st Marymass game on 2nd article down here: https://www.irvinemeadowfc.co.uk/meadow-history-page Usually the crowd is around 600 - 900 so a pretty good crowd at our level.

http://slfl.co.uk/lowland-league-agm-update/ From 2018 so probably changes since then. The previous chairman was Edinburgh University's Andrew Waddell but he was voted out in favour of George Fraser. "The election returned George Fraser as Chairman, Dave McKenna of East Kilbride will serve as Vice Chairman while Tom Brown (Civil Service Strollers), Findlay Murray (The Spartans), and Andrew Waddell (Edinburgh University) will also sit on the board alongside its existing members"

I think the WOSFL Hamster sleeps on a Saturday after 4pm...

Aye I knew that but it's been an event since 2009 they said but never seen it on council TV / Eurosport / Sky etc previously - Triathlon World Series or whatever they call it I had never spotted this event before.

Enjoyed watching that. First time I had seen that event. Well done to the British triathletes. Usually the triathlete looks tough but I reckon even I could do the bike ride part, be at least 10 minutes slower right enough.

Darvel signing players who should be playing in SPFL League One and Two while Talbot aren't in the same market with their spending and sticking with players that they know and trying to get a couple of lower league / amateur gems in.

Aye we are and hopefully it will come this season but I can't see if I am honest until at least Darvel & Talbot have moved up to the Lowland League.

Just my feeling as an outsider but I feel Talbot committee will be quite happy in West of Scotland Football League Premier Division for a few years and not to be promoted until the big spending teams like Darvel are promoted and Lowland League has a few more better supported teams in it from ex West and East Juniors and less dross in it. Be a focus on cups and top 2/3 finish in league still but as for promotion I don't think they are as fussed about it as Darvel, Clydebank and Buffs committee & management are. Just my opinion.

I don't get how drug policy isn't a devolved power when have health care and criminal justice systems are??

Is there any reason why 4 teams aren't playing next midweek and other 16 teams are due to play?

Getting my vaccination yesterday and seen 2 people turned away from drop in centre vaccination as wasn't quite 8 weeks. Just get it done in my opinion. Those people may not bother now and 2 down. Will be happening all over.

What teams in the Lowland League can however unlikely be relegated to West, East and South leagues. Where would each one go if relegated? Is it only Cumbernauld Colts and East Kilbride that can go down to West? What about Caledonian Braves and Broomhill? Genuine question to work out likelihood of 8 teams relegated in West Premiership [emoji23]

Pain in the arse. Trying to see the results from tonight in one place and website down again.

Going to be 10 years before the Lowland League have the top West and East teams in it with 1 up and 1 down and have a good balance to it. Did notice it's all went quiet on extra relegation places. I will just back to worrying about my team being one of 7 going down in tier below while 1 may go up to Lowland League or they may not [emoji849][emoji23]

May have already been covered but not scrolling through thousands of posts but what is the Scottish Governments stance on vaccine passports for football stadia and nightclubs? What does everyone reckon it will be? I see Liberal Democrats for all it's worth have came out against it....

On Monday 19th July Scotland is due to go to level 0 so 2,000 supporters will be allowed into stadiums so that is 2 days after first league game and will be fine for teams at our level. I think teams in SPFL can apply to have more supporters in but depends on local councils. On 9th August then should be full stadiums for all sporting events. Obviously to be confirmed...

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What dates are 1st and 2nd Round etc?

BBC News - Owner fears kitten death linked to food https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57486596 FYI folks.

I am North Ayrshire and loads of people in my age group over 30s including myself have been getting their 1st jags this week so probably focus on that recently.