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23 hours ago, GordonS said:
Done. First question isn't great - how long have you been a fan of women's football, no options between 'for as long as I can remember' and 2016!
To be honest, I've no idea why I even put that question in. I suppose I thought at the time it was a nice introduction to the survey. Easing them in to the serious stuff.
I shouldn't be allowed to launch surveys unsupervised.
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A new survey currently live ahead of the launch of a full-time women's football website.
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Latest episode of the Anyone's Game podcast dissecting the defeat to England.
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36 minutes ago, RussellAnderson said:
Is there some sort of fan-zone in Nice where many people are congregating for merriment before the big match?
There is, but the fanzone is shut today. Open tomorrow.
Dunno where it is.
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There's a Scotland woman's podcast that will be going on through the World Cup.
First episode (of the World Cup, there are eight previous episodes) on Sunday night after the Scotland game.
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On 18/03/2019 at 13:37, boulderdomb said:
Will/is this available on Pocket Casts?
Just saw this. Not entirely sure what pocket cast is to be honest - only just googled it there after reading your post.
Based on my 60 seconds of reading about it, I think you just add the RSS feed yourself. I'm likely wrong.
The podcast is on ITunes & Spotify if that is of any help. And episode three came out this week.
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New women's football podcast focusing on the SWPL and Scotland now up and running.
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2 hours ago, Dons_1988 said:
So much anger in this thread.
Don’t think anyone would pick kingsford as the first choice but some people are maybe just choosing not to lose the head and suggest the club will go into oblivion over it.
I get that it’s a huge thing for the club but so much anger towards people who might want to have a positive outlook on it is baffling to me.Aye it's an Aberdeen fan thing at the moment. If you back Kingsford or have the audacity to think McInnes has a decent record you're labelled a happy clapper. Apparently only the miserable c***s actually know their fitba. There was people losing their shit because Cammy Smith got some light applause while being substituted last week.
As for Kingsford, in an ideal world it gets the thumbs up, we build a training ground, then before the stadium itself is actually built there we end up changing plans and building in the city. That would also mean we could then expand the training ground in the future on the spare land we'd have - an indoor facility for example.
However, if the stadium does get built there, as someone who grew up in Westhill I don't think it'll be the disaster some think. If I can have a season ticket for Pittodrie while living in Westhill I'm sure those in the city can make it to Westhill without too much trouble. Pittodrie is a shite stadium (forget the history, it's shit) and we all go, and we'll all go to Kingsford. We'll moan about lack of bars and parking miles away but we'll enjoy moaning about it because we're Aberdonian and that's what we do best.
The thing is, Loirston (which I thought was a fine location and didn't really understand the opposition to it), Kings Links and a redeveloped Pittodrie are only possible with extra funds, and it'd need to be the council chipping in. They have over £820m coming in as part of the city region deal - they could give Aberdeen just £10m, end the driving range's lease at Kings Links, and say "right, there you go, get on with it" in exchange for helping support the city centre businesses that benefit from the stadium there. Unfortunately there's as much chance of that happening as me becoming the fifth member of Little Mix.
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20 hours ago, craigkillie said:
It is possible that all three clubs will enter in QR1, but it is highly likely that the highest ranked entrant (Scottish Cup winners, or 2nd in the Premiership if Celtic win the cup) will enter QR2. The UEFA access list has spots cleared in the later rounds for various contingencies, such as the Champions League or Europa League winners not otherwise qualifying for Europe. In practice, these spots are almost always vacated, which means that various teams move up from the previous round. The only thing which could really stop it would be a bunch of weird scenarios like Leicester winning the Champions League and the Europa League winners not having already qualified for Europe through their domestic league.
So....
If Man U finish 6th (missing out on Europe) but win the Europa League, the Scottish Cup winners go into QR1?But if Man U finish 5th and win the Europa League, the Scottish Cup winners go into QR2.Is that correct or does something else need to happen?0 -
So next season all three of our Europa League entrants enter in qualifying round one?
The Scottish Cup final is 27 May, Scotland v England is June 10, and the qualifiers begin June 29.
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9 hours ago, Elixir said:
That new stadium looks every bit as shit as we all knew it would be. It's something you'd expect of a new franchise club - a bit like Livi's ground, really. In the middle of nowhere too. Ooft.
Must be brutal knowing that's your future when you look at the likes of a finished Tynecastle and Easter Road in the heart of our nations capital.
Well I for one am shocked that Hearts' biggest fanboy is of the impression Tynecastle is better than the new Aberdeen stadium.
Definitely never saw that one coming.
3 hours ago, BucksburnDandy said:
2) Sadly stands not as tall as they were going to be, small concession to the WANKS
Very good summary and everything I've heard about the new stadium has been very positive.
However, I don't understand the height being lowered to appease the objectors. That would mean we would be stuck with it, never being able to increase the capacity or height of the stadium, either for our own use or if Scotland were to host something.
The height of the stands is the one real negative of it.
1 hour ago, jamamafegan said:Drinking at the stadium all day is a shite plan. Away days are meant to be spent in the town, it's part of the away day experience - drinking in different boozers, chatting with locals, seeing the sights. You won't catch me coming out to your fans bar in the middle of a farmland with your overpriced lager.
Dons fans are excited because this is new and refreshing. Yes the plans look impressive when set out and the pictures look good. But if you can see past that it's just glorified pish. I hope you prove me wrong and it's a huge success but I'm not convinced.The supporters bar is being built for the use of home supporters, not the 500 or so Hearts support that visit.
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20 hours ago, Mordecai said:
I notice that Rosenborg were drawn against Austria Vienna in the EL play off. There's a real possibility that they'll have all of their teams out of Europe before that group stages even begin.
I think Rosenborg will win that one. Austria Vienna aren't that great, needed penalties to get through the last round.
Rapid Vienna and Salzburg are the top teams in the Austrian league.
For our chances of actually getting to 15th one day, we probably want Rosenborg to win that tie anyway.
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33 minutes ago, Marr1 said:
Celtic and Aberdeen's draws have helped our coefficient, however after Legia's win, Scotland are no closer to Poland and after Qarabag and Qabala's draws we're no further ahead of Azerbaijan
Pos. - Country - 16/17 - Total - Teams Left (Bold = CL)
15. Croatia - 2.550 - 22.625 - 4/4 - Dinamo Zagreb, Rijeka, Hajduk Split, Lokomotiva Zagreb,
16. Romania - 0.300 - 21.350 - 4/5 - Astra , Steaua Bucarest, Pandurii Targu Jiu, Viitorul Constanta
17. Austria - 2.250 - 20.225 - 4/4 - RB Salzburg, Rapid Wien, Austria Wien, Admira Wacker
18. Belarus - 2.875 - 19.750 - 3/4 - BATE, Torpedo Zhodino, Dinamo Minsk
19. Sweden - 2.250 - 19.225 - 2/4 - AIK, IFK Goteburg
20. Denmark - 3.120 -18.625 - 4/4 - FC Copenhagen, SonderjyskE, Midtjylland, Brondby
21. Norway - 1.375 - 18.325 - 1/4 - Rosenborg BK
22. Poland - 1.250 - 17.125 - 2/4 - Legia Warsaw, Zaglebie Lubin
23. Scotland - 2.125 - 16.675 - 2/4 - Celtic, Aberdeen
24. Azerbaijan - 2.125 - 15.625 - 2/4 - Qarabag, Qabala
The good news is that Poland look like they'll be down to a sole team in Europe as Zaglebie Lubin lost at home to SonderjyskE. If both Celtic and Aberdeen win next week and both Polish sides lose on the night Scotland will be up into 22nd place, and Scotland will gain a 0.5 or 1 pt bonus for Celtic's participation in the CL or EL groups stages. Plus any wins or draws count double from then onwards. Whilst APOEL need to overturn a 2-1 deficit to prevent Rosenborg from doing the same. Further up the table Romania look like they will be down to just three teams as Viitorul and Pandurii suffered pastings against Genk and Maccabai.
Edit: just noticed both Swedish sides lost tonight, they could easily lose all European competitors in this round.If Celtic get to the Champions League group stage, then it's a 4 point bonus.
There is no bonus for making the Europa League group stage.
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Coefficient points collected by Scottish clubs over the last ten years (including this season):-
Celtic: 82.5 (20 of these are bonus points)
Rangers: 43 (14 bonus points)
Aberdeen: 15.5
Hearts: 6
Motherwell: 6
St Johnstone: 5.5
Dundee Utd: 2
Hibernian: 1
Falkirk: 1
Inverness CT: 0.5
Dunfermline: 0.5
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Coefficient points collected by Scottish clubs over the last five years (including this season):-
Celtic: 49.5 (13 of these are bonus points)
Aberdeen: 9.5
St Johnstone: 5.5
Hearts: 3
Hibernian: 1
Motherwell: 0.5
Dundee Utd: 0.5
Inveeness CT: 0.5
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2 hours ago, TheGoon said:
Does anyone know realistically what we'd have to achieve to get near 15th? I can't imagine Celtic and one or the Europa League teams making the group stages being enough - and that is as good as we're going to get.
The last three years, the country occupying 15th place has had somewhere between 25 and 30 points - which is their scores from 5 years added together. Scotland in comparison at the end of last season had 17.300.
So, we need to average at least 5 points every year, to get us to around the 25 mark and be in with a chance of being top 15.
To get 5 points this year, we could do it this way:-
Celtic win 5/6 games in qualifiers, earn 4 bonus points for making the group stage of the CL, and perhaps win 2 and draw 1 in the group. That's 14 coefficient points.
Aberdeen and Hearts to both get to the play-off round, maybe winning at least 4 games each to get there, but maybe go out to a Hertha Berlin or a West Ham. That's 8 points.
Hibs win at home but lose away to Brondby and go out. 1 point.
So, fairly realistic, we're not asking anyone to do something impossible.
That would give us 23 points, which is then divided by 4 (the number of teams we have in Europe) to give us our 2016/17 score of 5.75.
If Scotland scored 5.75 for the next five years in a row, we would have a score of 28.75 and would more than likely be in at least 15th.
When you think about it, it really isn't that big an ask. But last season our score was only 3.
To actually get to 15th by the end of this season, we would probably need to do what we did in 2007/08 when we scored 10.250.
Celtic got to last 16 of CL.
Rangers got to UEFA Cup final.
Aberdeen got to UEFA last 32.
Dunfermline drew and lost in QR2.
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2 hours ago, sjc said:
1984 was Scotland high point in the coefficient I believe with ECWC Holders Aberdeen reaching the SF & Dundee Utd reaching the European Cup SF.
ETA: Suspect it would have been 1967 if there had been a coefficient in existence with Celtic winning the EC, Rangers losing the ECWC Final and Kilmarnock losing in the Fairs Cup SF.
The coefficients started in 1979, but Bert Kassies has worked out what the coefficients would have been before that by using the same system.
Therefore Scotland's coefficient history should be:-
1960: 5th
1961: 6th
1962: 5th
1963: 3rd
1964: 3rd
1965: 6th
1966: 6th
1967: 5th
1968: 5th
1969: 3rd
1970: 3rd
1971: 4th
1972: 5th
1973: 6th
1974: 6th
1975: 9th
1976: 11th
1977: 16th
1978: 15th
------coefficients officially introduced------
1979: 17th
1980: 13th
1981: 14th
1982: 14th
1983: 6th
1984: 4th
1985: 6th
1986: 7th
1987: 5th
1988: 7th
1989: 9th
1990: 10th
1991: 9th
1992: 12th
1993: 12th
1994: 13th
1995: 15th
1996: 17th
1997: 19th
1998: 26th
1999: 21st
2000: 15th
2001: 16th
2002: 12th
2003: 9th
2004: 11th
2005: 10th
2006: 11th
2007: 10th
2008: 10th
2009: 13th
2010: 16th
2011: 15th
2012: 18th
2013: 24th
2014: 23rd
2015: 23rd
2016: 25th
2017: Currently 23rd
So unofficially we had a few third places pre-1979, but officially our highest was at the end of the 1983/84 season.
Our lowest is 26th at the end of the 1997/98 season.
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On 8 July 2016 at 22:28, Marr1 said:
Well here's the updated table
Rank - Country - 16-17- Total - teams left
15. Romania - 0.000 - 21.050 - 4/4
16. Croatia - 0.500 - 20.625 - 4/4
17. Austria - 0.750 - 18.350 - 4/4
18. Sweden - 1.000 - 17.975 - 4/4
19. Belarus - 1.000 - 17.875 - 4/4
20. Norway - 0.750 - 17.450 - 3/4
21. Denmark - 1.000 - 16.500 - 4/4
22. Poland - 0.250 - 16.125 - 3/4
23. Scotland - 0.750 - 15.300 - 4/4
24. Azerbaijan - 0.875 - 14.375 - 4/4
We seem to be reeling in Poland and could catch them by the end of the next Round.
Like I've been saying, realistically it's better looking at the table the year after. Giving ourselves two years to get the necessary points, coupled with a lot of the nations in our way dropping points, you should see - even as early as this season - a rise up the table.
At the moment it is:-
13 Holland 18.549
14 Greece 17.700
15 Croatia 16.500
16 Austria 16.350
17 Romania 14.250
18 Poland 13.750
19 Belarus 13.625
20 Denmark 13.200
21 Sweden 12.850
22 Norway 12.550
23 Kazakhstan 11.875
24 Azerbaijan 11.625
25 Bulgaria 11.500
26 Scotland 11.000
27 Liechtenstein 10.500
27 Israel 10.500
27 Serbia 10.500
The aim is 15th, that gives us two champions league spots and we'd still have 3 Europa League places.
At the moment sitting 26th, with the three behind us right up our arse, it doesn't look good.
However, there's two years to get points, and there isn't a huge gulf between us and 15th.
Also, Bulgaria who are directly above us and Kazakhstan in 24th have both already lost two teams each.
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On 1 July 2016 at 10:44 AM, La_Leyenda said:
Only Austria and Croatia had teams playing in this round from that group above.
Austria: Admira Wacker 1-1 Spartak Myjava
Could be a tricky second leg for them in Slovakia. Good chance they might go out.
Croatia: UE Santa Coloma 1-3 Lokomotiva
They should probably be alright.
Admira Wacker won the second leg 3-2, so made it through.
Lokomotiva won 4-1, and 7-2 on aggregate.
Norway and Poland, who are both ahead of us in the coefficients, both had a club each knocked out in QR1, a huge blow for them. Stabaek lost at home to a Welsh team Connah's Quay, and Cracovia got knocked out by Shkendija, who Aberdeen knocked out last season.
-Like I said in a previous post, realistically we're not going to get to the top 15 in one season. Two good seasons is still very hard but maybe doable. So keep an eye on Greece, Holland, Romania, Croatia and Austria as that's who are in and around 15th spot if looking at the coefficient table two years ahead.
The fixtures next week in QR2 are:-
Champions League
Red Bull Salzburg v Liepaja
Vardar v Dynamo Zagreb
Europa League
Austria Vienna v Kukesi
Admira Wacker v Kapaz
RoPS v Lokomotiva
CSMS Lasi v Hajduk Split
Pas Giannina v Odd
So three Austrian teams, three Croatians, one Romanian, one Greek, no Dutch.
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The one good thing about having teams in QR1 is the chance to pick up some early coefficient points before some of our rivals. The bad thing is teams are at risk of being knocked out.
We picked up 3 out of 4 points, so it's not too bad, we do still have a small head start on the nations we're chasing. And we've made it to QR2 with all our clubs still intact, so althiugh 4/4 and a resounding win for Aberdeen would have been perfect, we're okay.
I suspect Birkikara and Ventspils will be a step up in quality, but hopefully Hearts and Aberdeen will improve as they begin to get into their stride.
Hibs are up against it but it's not Real Madrid they're playing. I'd say the tie is only 60/40 in Brondby's favour.
Celtic surely will win home and away comfortably?
So, 2/2 for Celtic. At *least* 1.5 for both Hearts and Aberdeen (home win, away draw) and 1 point for Hibs (home win, away defeat), that's 6 out of 8 coefficient points and maybe even all 4 into the next round. I'd take that.
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The ones ranked (in next season's table) from 13th to 17th are the ones to keep an eye on. Sweden in 18th aren't far behind but are about to drop down the table the following season unless they have a decent season this year.
So keep an eye on Greece, Holland, Romania, Croatia and Austria.
Only Austria and Croatia had teams playing in this round from that group above.
Austria: Admira Wacker 1-1 Spartak Myjava
Could be a tricky second leg for them in Slovakia. Good chance they might go out.
Croatia: UE Santa Coloma 1-3 Lokomotiva
They should probably be alright.
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If we want 15th spot, we need two very good seasons (or one exceptional season that would involve at least two in the knockout stages).
Realistically, three decent seasons and we may make it. Celtic making the CL group stage and the other three making it to at least QR3 could bring in 27/28 points, which would be considered a decent season, and is the sort of average you need to produce each year to get to 15th, which means five teams qualifying, two of which are in the CL qualifiers.
Any of the EL three making the group stages would be a very good season.
We're not talking impossible targets really. Just not getting knocked out by the Alashkert's or Stjarnan's of the world would give us a fighting chance.
It also depends of course on how other countries are performing. The ones ranked (in next season's table) from 13th to 17th are the ones to keep an eye on. Sweden in 18th aren't far behind but are about to drop down the table the following season unless they have a decent season this year.
So keep an eye on Greece, Holland, Romania, Croatia and Austria.
Helpfully, Romanian side CSMS Lasi have been drawn against Croatians Hajduk Split in the EL QR2, so one of them is about to lose a team early.
The Dutch have been struggling for a few years, but have the advantage of having PSV already in the CL group stage.
The Romanians have been doing well and occupy 15th, but had a poor season last year, actually picking up less points than Scotland.
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Dons home games will not be but Premier Sports have picked up all the away games under McInnes
Aberdeen's home games are usually on RedTV. Has a one minute delay behind the radio and usually no replays but does the job.
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In the 2017 coefficient ranking, Denmark are ranked one place above Scotland, so if Hibs could knock out Brondby that would be a big boost.
Brondby not the side they were when Ebbe Skovdahl was manager. Last season they were lucky to get through their QR2 and QR3 ties, winning 1-0 on aggregate v Beroe Stara Zagora then needing away goals to beat Omonia, before PAOK beat them comfortably in the play-off round.
Hibs can definitely beat them. Best chance for years for Scotland to have four teams in Europe in August.
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SSE Scottish Cup 2019
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Forfar are saying Stenhousemuir have forfeited the tie. Doesn't look good when two ties are off and you've got Dundee United banned due to forfeiting a tie last year.
I'm attempting a double header. Going to Spartans-Aberdeen then racing across the city for Hearts-Raith Rovers.