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I'm sure Vale of Leven Wishaw is off
It’s on according to twitter0 -
Fantastic listen! Chris comes across superbly. Great show guys!
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Really enjoy this! Great listen and great story from where the club came from and their ambitions [emoji1305]
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Undoubtedly there are going to be obstacles for clubs to get over between now and October, and the sooner the Scottish Government and the SFA clarify these the better. But I repeat (again), if outdoor live events are allowed from mid August (as per the current indicative dates) then there is no reason why socially distanced crowds should not be allowed inside football stadia three weeks after that date. If the clubs do their bit to get the stadia compliant, then why not ?
The only guidance we can take seriously on this is the Scottish Government and the SFA. Anyone else's opinion is just that, an opinion. Until the advice changes, then that is what must be used as the target.
What happens if some clubs get their stadia compliant but others in the same league or conference can’t what happens then? I know it’s hypothetical but do you partially start the league or does the whole league to be compliant? Some teams may struggle to compliant out of no fault of their own which makes it even more harder.0 -
Is it really embarrassing if clubs, their players, and everyone else concerned with the game do all they possibly can to ensure that games go ahead despite Covid-19? I actually think it shows some forward thinking in addressing very difficult issues.
For me it is embarrassing to ask men to come to football with their strips on, play a game of football in goodness knows what weather and then travel home to have a shower. If you can’t get changed in a changing room perhaps 22 guys running about a park isn’t the best option either.0 -
Which has been suggested by a user on an internet forum, and i've seen previously suggested by other users.
I've never seen it suggested by a user affiliated with a club, let alone in any official capacity.
Sadly that’s not true. It was included into a re-start considerations document sent to clubs after conversations with Thomas McKeown Chair of the Grassroots sub committee. So it’s been discussed but as Glensmad said not instructed. So I’d imagine he’s seen the document and seen that it’s a possibility. An embarrassing possibility is my opinion of it.1 -
No such instruction has been made.
I know it hasn’t. That’s why in my original post I intimated to the guy that his suggestion of players coming stripped was an embarrassment, an embarrassment to the professional level we play at. Then you jumped in with your junior dig, when no one mentioned it. Maybe not so quick off the mark next time [emoji1303]0 -
Are you seriously suggesting it would have been different in the juniors ?
Where did I mention the juniors or if things would’ve been different?
I didn’t but If I’m correct even the juniors wouldn’t have let a game go ahead if there wasn’t any showers would they not? Yet it’s suggest now that people turn up, play a game in which could be any weather, and go home in their strips which is just an embarrassment. That was my point.0 -
Players turn up in their kit,or change in their cars. They then go home to shower,taking their kit with them. Sure the referee and linesmen can sort themselves out as well. Fans are the 2m apart all around the ground, be sensible please ! Would you wear a mask to the game ? No need to use cramped changing rooms. Away clubs may have to hire a bigger bus to keep socially distanced,easy enough. Catering ? sure that can be worked out safely. If season starts in October,why can't you play midweek games straight away ?
So called professional football, part of the pyramid system and your going to ask men to turn up in their car with their strip on? Couldn’t think of anything more embarrassing for this grade of football.0 -
No doubt he'll just ignore having the urine ripped right out of him and he'll come back saying the same stuff yet again. [emoji23]
I wonder which ex-junior stalwart he actually is, or who is pulling his strings ?
The fact that you keep answering him, referring to his every post, referencing his numerous so called alias’s and all round egging him on suggests to me that he will keep this up. He seems to be entertaining you and keeping you on your toes wondering who he is.0 -
Yeh fair enough, but I think I'll be proven right next summer.
You very well might be. Will be a good fight for that top spot for sure [emoji1303]0 -
In fact, the conference is a mix of teams from the old WRSJFA Championship, League One and League Two, so Arthurlie should be winning most weeks.
You said boys were proven at this level, there is no level now. Teams will attract possibly better players that may never have entertained the juniors before, teams budgets may have improved dramatically due to the chance of getting to the Tier 6 in one hit, therefore some teams will be unknowing. Basing your argument on guys that have won a league 2 years ago with another team is very thin. I do Arthurlie have mustered a strong squad which certainly catches the eye but in the current situation it will be difficult to pick anyone as favourites in any conference.1 -
Arthurlie, Shotts and Whitletts are my tips to compete, but I can't see past Arthurlie at the moment. They have the players who have proven already that they can win a league at that level.
There’s never been a league at this level so that’s a strange sentence.2 -
It wasn't "promotion" though, as the WRSJFA didn't declare promotion and relegation. It was a concession by the SFA to allow these three teams to be included in the Premier Division as they would have been the only clubs who otherwise would have been playing at a lower level than their 'points per game average' would have earned.
I suppose it could be looked on as promotion, but it wasn't really. It was more of a gesture by the SFA to keep everyone happy. (Except Shotts weren't happy at all about it.)
So simply their ‘points per game average’ has earned them a promotion from last year. It’s plain and simple to see. Shotts weren’t happy cause they didn’t get promoted like the other 3 teams and they felt it unjust.0 -
The WRSJFA didn't declare promotion or relegation. They had no need to, as they knew there were not going to be any WRSJFA leagues anymore.
The WoSFL were told by Rod Petrie to take the existing 16 team West Region Premiership as the tier 6 league. The WoSFL then asked for the inclusion of Bonnyton which was conceded. And a further concession was made by the SFA to allow the three teams who were at the top of the West Region Championship.
There was no promotion or relegation.
The fact they 3 championship clubs, who happened to be in in the top three places in the final league standings are in the new Premier league would clearly suggest there was promotion. No relegation but most definitely those teams were promoted. Strange that you even suggesting otherwise.2 -
Fair point. But, given our form, with 7 games in hand (almost all of them at home) and still to play Troon at home as well, I'm as certain as I could be that we would have overcome the points difference to them. But you're right, I can't be absolutely certain, and we'll never know.
I can understand people expecting us to be relegation candidates again. Hopefully we can prove them all wrong.
I think the games in hand for you were certainly your advantage. Difficult to say wether you would’ve won them or lost them for that matter! As you say nobody will ever know. Nobody deserves to be relegated if the leagues couldn’t be finished.1 -
I don't know it, and nobody will ever know it for sure.
If you look at the league table, we were 15th, and 13th would have seen us safe.
We had 3 games in hand over Benburb in 14th place, 7 points behind them, and still to play them twice. It's extremely possible that we could have overtaken them.
We had 7 games in hand over Troon in 13th place, 10 points behind them, and still to play them at home. I'm certain we would have overtaken them.
We had 9 home games left to play and only 4 away from home. Our form had also picked up dramatically since the turn of the year, losing only one game, and that was to a last minute goal away to Auchinleck Talbot after leading for more than half of the game. Our last three results were a 2-2 draw away to league leaders Kilwinning Rangers (with one of Kilwinning's goals being a freak own goal), a thoroughly deserved win over Clydebank, and that frustrating defeat away to Auchinleck Talbot.
I and everyone else at the club were very confident of avoiding the bottom three when the games were stopped.
Yes, you can say we dodged a bullet based on the stats up to the end of 2019, but so did Rob Roy, Benburb and Troon. When you still had 43% of your season still to play, and your form was good, you're naturally optimistic of survival.
But we'll never know for sure.
How can you possibly say in one sentence nobody will ever know and on the next sentence say your certain you’d overtake Troon? [emoji15] surely you can’t possibly know if you would’ve taken over Troon?
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cheers , thanks 4 that , good luck at Wishaw mate , except when u play us off course [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
Thanks mate [emoji1303]0 -
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Does this guy ever have a day off from self promotion. The damage has been done the reputation is terrible no matter how many pr exercises you go on.
You could fed the starving 5 thousand and still not come over well with many people.
Come on mate he’s promoting his club. Surely you’d want your manager to be enthusiastic and driven at your club? You can’t possibly have a go at Mick for that. Is any manager not self promoting? Surely if the club and team are doing well it means the manager is doing well. Isn’t that every managers hope?0 -
In your opinion. We disagree, but I respect your right to disagree. I bear you no bad feeling for that. [emoji106]
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I think every supporter of the 63 former junior clubs who have moved to the WoSFL will be proud of their clubs' achievements over that time.
What is amusing about traffordab, though, is that he is refusing to accept the reality that junior football in the west of Scotland has come to an end.
I wouldn't say I slate the junior "grade" (whatever that term means, as I don't think it exists outside of Scotland in footballing terms). I do however repeatedly say that people like traffordab have to accept the reality of the situation.
All of the clubs moved over because the West Region SJFA officials wanted that to happen and actively encouraged them . Many of them wouldn't have moved otherwise.
Clearly with the move of all 63 clubs to the WOS then it clear that change was required and inevitable. Not every clubs members come and have a go at the juniors though like you do. Your comment on the Tucker Sloan thread on the junior thread is petty and indeed embarrassing. The juniors was no doubt a good grade of football over the years and one where your club specifically were successful. The spite and pettiness you now spout about it merely taints that success. We have all moved on, wether happily, luckily or forcefully to a new level of football but ultimately we will all be remembered, at least in the foreseeable future, as ‘junior’ clubs and we should be proud of that fact.1 -
Congratulations, you managed to write a post without using the word "junior". [emoji23]
Coming from the man that can’t stop commenting on the junior section of this forum
More than happy to accept the accolades your club achieved at this level yet on the other hand the first to now slate it. Clearly you didn’t like the juniors but your pishy comments are embarrassing.1 -
Don't understand the negativity. All teams knew they wont have any say in the operations for the fist season but then will all be able to vote in whom they think is best to run the WOS.
The league will be run but the Lowland, East of Scotland and South of Scotland League and then after run by the people who are voted in by the 67 WOS teams.
If the SFA say they can only have one division in Tier 6 then that's what has to happen, not the LL, EOS and the SOS's fault
I think if teams you knew they wouldn’t have a say at the beginning then you wouldn’t have had the negativity as you say.
Listen don’t get me wrong I think, for the most part, it’s been done reasonably well. It’s certainly best for football. Altho to suggest that member clubs will have a say and that it will be a good thing is a little premature for a lot teams considering the circumstances.0
WOSFL Conference C 2021-2022
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I pretty sure if you check back one person said “wishaw were looking good for top at this rate” after a very good start. At no point did anyone say they were a stick on for promotion and I don’t even believe anyone said that let alone more than one. Wishaw have done amazingly well to be where they are at this stage of the season.