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On 12/02/2024 at 19:30, Ranaldo Bairn said:
Gosh, 10k. How impressive.
Again, your experiences have no bearing on those of other teams' fans. This should not be difficult to grasp for you.
Very impressive given the standard of football that was on show.
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On 15/02/2024 at 01:36, PossilYM said:
And you could always smash all the windaes on Easter Rd if you wanted.
Only an idiot would smash a window for the sake of a game of football.
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On 12/02/2024 at 20:13, Sergeant Wilson said:
Right, we all agree, you're as hard as fucking nails.
Far from it.
Violence never solves anything especially at the football.
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On 11/02/2024 at 13:16, Ranaldo Bairn said:
Hey, the lad was fine in amongst a boisterous and confident visiting support of 4 or 5,000, so everyone's experiences must have been the same, right?
Before the South Terracing was demolished and rebuilt Hearts used to take up to 10k to Easter Road.
For me, leaving the Shrubhill Masonic Club, heading along Albert Street or sometimes Brunswick Road we never encountered those damn pesky well dressed liberty takers, maybe because there was always around a dozen of us, who knows.
Obviously after the game, 10k boisterous Hearts fans walking along the Albion Road and up Easter Road would have been far too much for the dynamic CCS to take on.
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3 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
You described it as a myth. My experience is very different. To be fair Hearts was much the same.
I don't know where your going with your responses but I was initially laughing at the myth, if you've been the victim of the myth then I can only sympathise with you and your bus load.
As for an away fan visiting Tynecastle I didn't realise it was up there for being an overly cautious visit.
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5 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
Good for you, crossing it in those numbers. Try it with a single bus load and you might feel a bit more exposed.
Hence why I described them as well dressed liberty takers
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4 hours ago, Boghead ranter said:
FFS The myth that is The Bridge of Doom
Never in my life have I experienced any issue trying to cross that bridge before or after any Edinburgh Derby from those damn pesky dressed liberty takers.
For those fans of a certain age they'll remember the Hearts support wasn't allowed to cross that bridge to gain access to The Dunbar End/Main Stand or back onto Easter Road after the game hence the lyrics to the song we sang in the 80s to the tune to The Blaydon Races. (running along the Albion Road)
I think once the new Dunbar End was built and the away support was reduced it was easier for the police to direct fans back onto Easter Road via the bridge.
Funny to think that since casuals first hit the streets there are certain Hibs casuals who are still actively involved in that scene, I witnessed a wee tiff at Edinburghs Playhouse before the last Derby when a very young group of Hearts Ultras battled briefly with some known Hibees who let's just say are knocking on the door of No 60 !!!!
Time to grow up naw ?
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On 07/01/2024 at 17:43, tamthebam said:
Rangers pulled out one year but I can't remember why. They were replaced by Nottingham Forest who might have been English Sixes Champions.
A certain Capital football team who hadn't won anything for years used to add The Tennent's Sixes as an honour won in their list of honours... (Clue: it wasn't the Hibees)
Och to be fair at least we managed to win it twice alongside Aberdeen and Rangers.
Hibernian FC
Tennents Sixes Winners :1989-90
From the Hibs 0 v 3 Hearts match programme September 1990.
From the Hibs 1 v 4 Hearts match programme January 1991
From the Hibs 1 v 1 Hearts match programme November 1991
Did we celebrate ? You bet we did.
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On 07/02/2024 at 17:23, AndyM said:
Whoa! Go fan run like Hearts? Fans don't run Hearts. Ann Budge and the Board do. Your Board has one person from the FoH on it who will be easily outvoted by the Grown Ups on the Board. Your board isn't hugely different from Hibs as both are in the main the usual mix of senior partners are Edinburgh Law Firms and Investment Companies. And you have one rich benefactor, James Anderson, who I used to work with and he's been preventing you from racking up year on year losses for the last 5 years at cost of about £4m a year.
F A N O W N E DUH !
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On 07/02/2024 at 14:43, Tommy Tappin said:
Yeah, I'm aware how it's coming across. It's mostly a reaction to our fans criticising stuff they don't understand.
Yours however is a reasoned post, and so to address your points in order:
1. How can I say Kensell has made us millions when we made a loss? Kensell's top responsibility is commercial. That's what Ron brought him in to do. 28 new commercial deals later, he's the most successful CEO we've ever had. The losses were mostly loss of income from early competitive exits and one off charges. Someone who can bring in that much money and cost us £300k should not GTF, in my opinion.
2. It's McDermott and Montgomery's job to make things happen on the park. 'Yeah but who appointed them?' Great, than sack every chairman and ceo who appoint unsuccessful managers. There won't be many left and that's why there's more to it than that. Petrie had a much worse record.
3. Salary, it's low for CEO average in Scotland. Aberdeen and Hearts are lower still, but both those clubs need cash gifts every year to operate so not comparable.
4. How can the club say record breaking year. It says on course for record breaking year. The club already knows most of its its Euro, ST, commercial and player trading income for this financial year. League placing and SC run are already budgeted.
5. How much can we rely on this income year after year? As much as Hearts and Aberdeen can rely on their Brooks Milesons6. Gordons subsidy. Not sure Foley would invest if the economic outlook was bleak. Comparison with Romanov difficult as he had run up your debt to £52m at its peak was it? before the first debt for equity issue wiped £12m off your debt. We're barely talking about 10% of that.
7. It's not really an unwavering defence as the problems at Hibs are laid bare for all to see right now. It's more a reaction to halfwit punters who know **** all, and I mean **** ALL! about running a business or how a business is financed and then repeat the same tropes and insults over and over again. The level of criticism is way over the top (not on p&b but on social in general) and encouraging a hounding out culture is not my bag. I'd rather try to put some facts and context in an attempt to inform. I know I'm massively wasting my time with that.
Ron Gordon hated the 'persevere' motto because to him it translated as 'never improve, keep losing'.
This Hibs board, competent or incompetent have the ambition that we've been screaming out for and now it's here, surprise surprise, we don't like it.
The culture of our club is, in part, informed by the fan base and its a toxic loser culture and it holds us back.
That's why I'll come across as a fanboy when all I'm actually doing is is avoiding the knee jerk conclusions and trying to see the full picture. Anything other than crucifying the board comes across as fanboy-ish. That's the lack of nuance in social media debate.
Deary me, no point in doing all that reasonable justification on the Hibernian boards part by having a cheap dig at Aberdeen and Heart of Midlothian, a sprinkling of bitterness due to unsuccessful attempts to get one over on your geographical rivals ON the pitch.
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On 31/12/2022 at 21:27, AyrshireTon said:
2 different games back in 1980/81 and latterly 1978/79.
Good crowd in The Cowshed for both games.
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Shanks is going no where.
Decent contract, great club, future is bright.
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On 27/03/2021 at 23:32, Flybhoy said:
That was a decent gesture by Celtic especially given the fact St Mirren beat us in the semi final of that years league Cup.
I personally think it was purely because they beat Hearts in the final, a particularly horrible club supported by equally horrible people... I was genuinely delighted when St Mirren won that final.
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58 minutes ago, parsforlife said:
Neither side to play well hearts to win by being less shit.
Fine by me too but I just can't see it.
I'm hoping for a drab draw, a better outcome from the last 2 games.
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3 minutes ago, tamthebam said:
I was wondering if it was pre-1960. The reason was that, athough perhaps you couldn't have seen it in that photo, the roof over the Wheatfield End at Tynecastle went up in 1959.
Jimmy Wardaugh and Willie Bauld playing together in that snap, Hearts wearing maroon socks also as opposed to white socks after the 1959/60 League win.
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On 06/04/2019 at 22:01, Dundee Hibernian said:
The third game was, I recall, a Monday night: I was just returning from a long weekend at Wembley at Central Station, and remember fans going to Hampden that night. Also think it was raining that night.
In the third game, the previously mentioned Ally McLeod hit the post just before Arthur Duncan headed an og winner for Rangers, who had missed a penalty in extra time, a soft award from Glasgow referee, in a final in Glasgow involving a Glasgow team, I.M.D. Foote. Think it was Alex Miller who missed the penalty, which surprisingly wasn't then ordered to be retaken.
Duncan's own goal was a superb diving header.
Before 2016 the pub quiz question was...
Who was the last Hibs player to score the winning goal in a Scottish Cup Final ?
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22 hours ago, scotfree said:
13th September 1958.
Note: 1957/58 League Champions flag flying* at the North Stand gable.
* Not exactly flying, maybe just hinging.
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16 hours ago, Glenconner said:
Love St?
Yep
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13 hours ago, Flybhoy said:
Is that Ibrox?
The enclosure at Rugby Park always sloped down at that corner due to the houses in behind it, the current stand there does the same and I don't recall the terrace behind the goal being as large, I may be wrong though.
Definitely Love Street. Check the tenement block at the bottom left of the picture.
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A Photographic History Of Scottish Football
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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Deflated after losing out on the last day of the season, 1985-86.
In fact devastated