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Hahaha, is that the best you've got. That's a defense almost as good as Connelly and Reynolds. We chose to take an approach that was fairest to the whole squad and with it came the risk we might lose our best player. If you are happy that your club is willing to shaft the majority of your clubs players to be able to pay McNulty, Fuchs and Bolton's full wages then I look forward to seeing how willing your 'academy graduates' and others are to sign new contracts having had their meagre wages cut to pay the 5k a week of some overpaid mercenaries... As for the last bit, you might think that is analogous but what I said was based on what has been widely reported already and what has been stated in regards to both our and other teams wage reductions. Yours is a spurious remark with no content. Thank you for trying though, but must try harder.

How is it spin? It was quite well publicised at the time that we had made the deal to the whole team on the grounds of fairness as was our disappointment at losing Hemmings. Enjoy your delusions that the PFA will have nothing to say btw as seemingly they have already had contact from a number of your players...

I obvs don't know how much say the PFA would have but I would imagine they'd be telling the players to tell your board to gtf if they was even the slightest hint of some getting let off with the deal. & Yeah we probably could have made an exception for Hemmings but rather than being 'happy to get rid of him' we chose to have enough class to offer the same terms to the whole team and didn't try to shaft any of our players to save players with resale value.

So are you saying they will let some off without taking the deal? What's stopping them all just saying "nah I'll stay on my full pay thanks" then? I'd assume the PFA would have something to say about that if they aren't already about the fact your letting the loanees and new signings stay on full pay.

Ach well, he's still not going for 2m and is more likely to get picked up by some championship or European club for 500k - if his agent doesn't use his raised profile to get a new deal elsewhere now

Didn't realise his contract was up next year - he'll just sign a pre contract in January them and piss off for free (if he doesn't refuse the pay deal and walk now)

Thing is how much do you think you can get for him even if he does get sold? I've seen some of your fans saying 2m for him but realistically do you think you'll get much more than 0.5m-1m to a championship club for him? + Given you lost 3m+ last year and being generous (since you guys are adamant it's not 133% wages to turnover anymore) say another 2m this year, even getting 2m for him still leaves you needing to sell Shankland for the 3m+ to balance the books... With Shankland not scoring at the moment then even if a club comes in for him in January is he likely to go for any more then 1 or 2m especially given clubs will be trying to get your players on the cheap now they know you're skint.

Might work if they can avoid the old firm or teams down south pinching their academy players for pennies, players not signing new contracts and walking for free or going bust paying McNulty, Fuchs, Edwards, Shankland and fk knows who else 3k+ a week...

Oooft... From the Tele's 5 questions article "The club’s annual accounts are due out soon – how will they look? Bad, according to the Tannadice chief. This time last year United posted a financial loss of over £3 million, with the club’s wage-to-turnover ratio hitting 133%. Yesterday Ogren said: “We’re definitely going to have another loss. It’s just a question of how big. “We haven’t finalised the books. We got hurt badly at the end of last year and it will be bad again.” But the 58-year-old hasn’t given up on eventually turning a profit in the City of Discovery and believes youth development is a crucial part of the business. He said: “It’s hard to make money and that’s why the academy is such a big part of our plan. It’s vital. “It will potentially be affected like every other area of the club – everything is on the table right now. “But we’re committed to our academy. “Investing in Scottish football isn’t a get rich quick scheme. There’s a risk involved and I was told many times that I should get my head examined. “I was told that if I wanted to make money this was not the way to do it. “It was a risk I was willing to accept because I had faith in our plan Confirmation that the accounts were bad last year and that the accounts will be 'bad' this time around too (presumably without the bulk of the impact of covid showing yet) & still thinking he can turn a profit....

True, I hadn't noticed that minor detail...

Your formation is also apparently 'fuched' since Pawlett and Butcher are maybe out injured now too

Totally, Konrad was a decent player for us - like you say not the biggest but positionally good and could play a pass

They are barely posting in their own thread so I suspect they've all slunk back off to kickback. Maybe they are boycotting P&B since they can't boycott the games?

This is the same for me too unfortunately... We'll just have to score more than he let's in!

If she does it as well as she handled the fight to avoid relegation then I fully expect Neilson to get a paint can to the face and your new CEO's hat to be set on fire...

Even then it took him a few goes with United & without Shanklands goals they'd have probably struggled again last season too

Looks like he should've saved it from that pic tbh

Ahh cool, still think he'll need a few bounce games before he'll be ready for the first squad but he's maybe a total baller and will rip Hearts a new one from the bench!

Jakubiak still isn't ready but Afolabi is back so I'd imagine it'd be between him Mullen and Sow for a front two (suspect McPake might have one of them playing off Sow). Other than that I think Yenitit is right with pretty much the same 11. No idea if Hamilton is even out of quarantine yet but he'll probs need to get a few bounce/youth games before anyone can tell if he's up to it.

It's ok lads, Kuate is available https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/former-dundee-united-midfielder-wato-kuate-is-a-transfer-target-for-four-english-championship-clubs/

Imagine taking all those drugs! (or blows to the head...)

Tele is saying its a pay as you play deal so if he is still crocked or too pish to get a game then at least it won't cost us anything I guess. McPake seems to think he'll link up well with the others so hopefully he's right and the lure of wages gets him wanting to stay fit and playing... https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/pay-as-you-play-deal-as-dundee-sign-former-united-striker-osman-sow/

Yeah... Figured it would be but still had my fingers crossed for a keeper

Signing emoji's up on twitter...