[Livingston - all the threads merged]

Some of these posts are unbelievable!

The way some of you are gloating is quite repulsive and perverse considering the overall state of Scottish football and the likelyhood of this repeating itself in the not too distant future. Your provincial, narrow minded, short visioned tripe spewing from your keyboards reminds me we, as livi fans, now have NOTHING to be ashamed of. NO-ONE to apologise to, no one to ask to be kind and not harsh. GIRUY. Why the harshest penalty possible, because only then did it secure promotion for two other clubs. Cynical? That word doesn't even cover it. One trouser leg up, get licking those frogs boys!

What a scene today in the meeting eh? The Airdrie chairman chairing the meeting that will see his club get promoted, Black, red faced and passionate, rallying the old gaurd. What a conspiracy of wanks! The SFL that is bigger than the rest of us and been around 100 years pish is easy to spout when it suits you. 5 minutes ago they were hell spawn and utterly redundant in your opinions! Plus the members effectively said, NO to the SFL policy of allowing Livi to continue. "oh but mumsy wumsy, now livi will have an unfair advantage in the lower leagues and might just bounce back up!" FFS !! Admit it, you just don't like to see other teams succeed because you are tight, mean and cynical MTF.

Pathetic, what a bunch of miserable misers (mostly). I hope the boot is on the other foot sometime, and oh boy, I don't think we'll have long to wait.....

To those amongst you who have been gracious and supportive of us, I apologise for my tirade.

Everyone else, ask yourselves how you would feel in our position and get a grip.

I'm certainly not gloating but at the end of the day I'm happy that the SFL has seen fit to punish your club for a history of cheating and dishonesty that is unparallelled in Scottish football history. As for you having no need to feel shame I really doubt that you did anyway.

You are free to continue playing in the leagues albeit at a lower level and if there was any sincerity in your new saviours then I expect they will relish the opportunity to rebuild your club on a firm foundation.

I will spare a thought for the politicians of WLC whose carefully hatched plans have probably blown up in their faces leaving the local taxpayers well and truly out of pocket. Hopefully folk will remember when casting their votes.

[Livingston - all the threads merged]

SFL discover balls shock

Correct decision.

[Livingston - all the threads merged]

and so the saga drags on. I've a feeling the SFL will now be regretting their policy of abject cowardice as the mask slips from the latest vultures to land on Livi's corpse. Sadly it's probably too late now and having cheerfully strolled down the road of tame compliance the blazers will have to continue agreeing to 'support' this member club.

[Livingston - all the threads merged]

The club is still young, this disaster is an eye opener for many, the state of scottish football is only becoming clear to me through my investigations and learing curve from my own clubs problems. I wonder how many of you realsie how close your going to come to this in the near future? Livi just had a head start on the road to disaster.

The idea of getting a lecture on the sad state of Scottish football and clubs from you is a bit rich. While you and many of your fellow fans may have been totally and conveniently ignorant of where you club was heading most of us weren't. Most fans are well aware of the general health of their club, it only appears to be something deep and mysterious if you come from west Lothian. Livi did not just have a head start on this road, Livi designed and laid the road out. You have been here before and learned nothing and now you come again asking for empathy and understanding after competing unfairly in relation to every other club in the division.

Once again you clap like performing seals as the latest batch of saviours ride over the horizon, just like you did with Massone and all the others, aided and abetted by a tame council and a gutless, corrupt regulatory body.

[Livingston - all the threads merged]

"But demotion wasn't considered because the prospective buyers of the club have a business plan that involves Livingston being in the First Division."

It's a real pity that the Livi business plan was not a bit more ambitious. Had they gone for the plan being based on being in the SPL they may have walked away with a promotion.

[Livingston - all the threads merged]

Pie in the sky.

The only way forward for genuine fans was to shut the doors on 14 years of shame, getting rid of scum like MCL, and go and start a club to represent their own community with it's own constitition and protection against Massone/Flynn/Keane type scam artists.

What they now have is a realisation that they can effectively rinse and repeat, and should the hard work of genuine people not quite cut it there will be those will gradually pull towards the tried and tested debt path again.

Sadly, there are always people who think cheating to win is a model of success.

Perfectly summed up.

The whole edifice of LFC was built on lies and deception and the only message that can be taken away from today is that cheating works.

[Livingston - all the threads merged]

Well the delegation that visited the SFL today must have had a good enough business plan to convince the SFL that Livi should remain in the league.

The administrator must also be convinced that the plan is workable and sustainable or make no mistake we would have been liquidated today...so it looks very much that liquidation was not the 'easiest and preferred' way forward....simple as that.

I fully expect the business plan will be like all the others - nice words but firmly founded on the principles of dishonesty, fraud and deception. Convincing the SFL that there was a route to cover their abject failure as an administrative body wouldn't have been that difficult.

The administrator like all adminisistrators is essentially interested in one thing ie making money for himself or his company. The longer he is there the more he gets and you can be sure his bill is always paid in full.

[Livingston - all the threads merged]

The new chairman and board will not allow that to happen.The club will live within its means and find its level and if thats in a lower division then so be it!..but survival looks more assured now that new backing has been found.

Once Massone has relenquished his shares and is run out of town the new Livi will rise from the ashes.

Obviously the new regimes business plan and the way forward that was put to the SFL today was found to be acceptable hence the survival of Livi...simple as that!...we are not totally out of the woods yet though,much depends on getting the shares from Massone or the other member clubs voting on the rule change but compared to the situation this morning its a big leap forward....the easiest and preferred way for everyone would be for Massone to take the money and walk.

Where have I heard this before? Was it the last great saviour, or the one before or the one before that?

Surely the 'easiest and preferred' and correct way forward for Livingston was liquidation.

[Livingston - all the threads merged]

Shameful decision but not surprising.

[Livingston - all the threads merged]

The danger with giving precedence to a re-incarnation of a club that went bust is that it sends out the signal that the SFL are prepared to see clubs default on debts and allow virtually the same team to re-enter the league almost immediately, I would think that banks and other businesses would become quite wary of giving overdrafts/credit to football clubs if they thought this was going to happen.

I tend to agree with that view. In the case of Livi doubly so since their record for any sort of fiscal prudence has been woeful for years. Any club can find itself in trouble for a variety of reasons but Livi have taken it too far, too often to deserve much sympathy.

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