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1 minute ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said:
It 100% would be in my workplace.
It would in most workplaces you'd assume.
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4 minutes ago, Black_and_White_Stripes said:
If his crime's sufficiently serious, then he will still receive a custodial sentence. I mean, if he's rag-dolled this woman and left her with serious injuries. I'm guessing that's not the case though, otherwise there would probably have been something in the press or on social media.
Given that, plus the overcrowding issue, I think it's unlikely he will get the jail. Total speculation on my part, though.
If he's not jailed, he cannot be considered to be that much of a menace to society and can continue to play.
Hmm, that last part isn't really the issue. No one is suggesting he's a predator or a danger, it's about the clubs moral take on it.
And they have to decide what they think is palatable based on whether he's guilty or innocent. Jail time doesn't really come into it if he's found guilty IMO.
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2 minutes ago, Black_and_White_Stripes said:
I will reserve judgement until the facts are known.
Assuming he is convicted, and he's not jailed, which is quite likely given prison overcrowding, surely the club could fine him, rather than terminate his contract? Perhaps have him do work in the community? I think there's something to be said for rehabilitation and giving folk second chances.
Genuine question, if the sole reason for him not going to prison was overcrowding and not because of guilt, why should that lessen the clubs response?
That's just a by product. They have a decision to make based on his guilt, not his punishment by the system.
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8 hours ago, Darren said:
Hearts were sensational in thrashing Ross County 6-1 in Naismith's first game in charge.
Last season, beat Celtic home and away, recorded more wins overall and away wins than for an age, knocked out Rosenborg in a thrilling second leg at Tynecastle, beat Dundee from behind in a couple of really topsy-turvy affairs...
It's fairly easy to point to these kind of things when a manager has achieved a level of success.
My post wasn't really a critique of McInnes' style of play, it was more a response to the idea that we should be happy with simply finishing third or fourth.
McInnes was chased out of Aberdeen despite achieving that kind of success.
I think the point I was trying to make is that when you play a certain style of football, it's often rounded on quicker when you hit a bad patch.
Neilson and Naismith found this out, going back further it applied to Laszlo, and I could see us being in exactly the same position in 18 months if we appointed McInnes.
I'm not saying we have to expect flair football every week, but we need a fresh style. Neilson, Naismith and then McInnes all following each other would be too much for my liking.
Plus, McInnes is also a bit of a dick.
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4 minutes ago, fasda2 said:
You’re looking for someone who will get you 2nd 3rd and 2nd over the next few seasons. Good luck.
No sure you've understood my point there tbh.
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58 minutes ago, Girth said:
Greasy Gareth Ainsworth has thrown his name in the ring.
Looks 'very Hearts' tbf.
Heavy divorced Da' vibes.
He's an utter p***k, thankfully he'll be nowhere near it.
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9 hours ago, Coventry Saint said:
I hope Hearts don't go for McInnes and I'm glad to hear the fans don't fancy him. This phase of extreme competence and solidity that's taking place at Killie, and which he previously brought to Aberdeen, must not be repeated at Hearts.
Hearts have finished 3rd, 4th & 3rd in the last few seasons and made cup semis and finals. We've been pretty competent and solid.
The issue is because of the style of manager, when we go through a bad spell they run out of credit quickly because it's a chore to watch.
Not sure how McInnes has us performing much higher than that and his style would see him in the exact same position after a bad run.
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1 hour ago, Cameron1875 said:
A really daft thing to say from McKinlay and not his first. I know he can claim out of context but just silly to put himself in that position. Any plans from Hearts to move him on too or grumbles from Hearts fans about him? Genuinely not fishing but unsure who has the power to make those changes.
Put himself in what position? Saying if we'd seen more fight it would've made his decision harder?
Even the moaniest of Hearts fans aren't bothered about that comment as far as I can see.
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1 hour ago, kingjoey said:
If Hearts had taken a game in the second half on Saturday, Naismith would still be manager. So he was binned because of a poor half.
He was emphasising the performance was abject.
If we'd not lost, he probably would still be clinging to a job. But we did and he isn't and the board have been pretty decisive. Not sure why they are getting stick, it's clutching.
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45 minutes ago, the jambo-rocker said:
I feel like he's been playing with a knock for the last few games and this was inevitable.
In any case been hearing good things about Forrester in the B team and wouldn't be averse to throwing him in on Saturday.
Forrester is meant to be good but I'd give Oyegoke a start. Has looked a bit ropey but has also done some things well. He's been signed to be backup so give him a chance, actually starting a game, and in the correct position, might help him.
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There's Taylor out and on crutches. Amazed he's genuinely injured after all the St Mirren fans telling us he just didn't fancy it on Saturday.
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15 minutes ago, Galajambo said:
Gotta love McKinley's statement (not!), apparently we have our own shortlist which has been given to Bloom and co, with any luck at all they'll take one look at that list, pish themselves laughing, throw it in the bin, and suggest a new CEO at the same time!
Can't say I thought there was much wrong with the interview at all tbh.
Why would the club not have a list of potential names? Would be slaughtered if they didn't.
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6 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:
You mean we're still overdue?
I'd be all for reclaiming wages already paid after the last 2 months tbh.
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7 minutes ago, kingjoey said:
Thank you Hearts for taking the mantle of poor decisions at the top, away from Aberdeen for at least a short while anyway.
Naismith's position decided, ultimately, on one half of football, and managerial and coaching staff all binned just over a month after signing two year extensions to their contracts.
No he wasn't binned on one half, he said that half confirmed his fears that we weren't getting a response.
It wasn't a two year extension, it was one year that was built into his previous contract that ended up with us paying the exact same compensation.
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40 minutes ago, gazelle83 said:
I can see being relegation fodder and about to have his club sell it's soul to a buyer who was rejected by Hibs and utd is taking its toll on poor Vincent. Still you'll always have that incredible performance away to Plzen to remember.
It's good that you misread what he said, had a dig and then when you had it pointed out you went in even further.
Don't back down, double down.
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15 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said:
This is patent nonsense.
Rumours with this been going for ages and the deal is likely to be signed this week or next.
He got sacked because we've been getting beat every week for ages.
I dunno like, maybe they gave him a new deal for a laugh and always planned to empty him.
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1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said:
I don't think the Bloom investment would've been leaked.
It's been leaked because it's imminent and fans have known something was in the pipeline for months.
If Naismith had won even 1 of his last 4 or 5 he'd not be out a job. He had a lot of backing from our board.
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1 hour ago, kingjoey said:
I may be wrong, but you now seem to be behind the Hearts situation.
You are wrong mate, he's been pretty consistent he doesn't want it from the minute it was announced tbf to him.
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The Bloom/StarLizard deal is done. It might not be announced yet, but it's agreed and will be announced, likely this week.
Considering that deal involves them revamping our recruitment, I'm not sure them then being involved in recruitment is that big a gotcha tbh. It's quite literally why they are involved.
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1 hour ago, VincentGuerin said:
Very dispiriting to see the clamour for this Bloom deal from among a lot of our supporters.
Had a rare look at Kickback and the thread on the issue is utterly depressing and pure Modern Football. A few brave dissenting voices, but the majority are clearly all for it.
Among my mates there is a majority against, but I think we all realise we have views on fitba that are being left behind.
I've got two main problems with it.
1) The fundamental loss of independence. Whether Bloom does or does not buy shares in the end (and he will), he ends up with influence at our club while his priority lies elsewhere with another club. That's completely unacceptable and beneath the dignity of the club. If you believe the guy turning up with the tool that improves our fortunes on the pitch doesn't hold away at the club, then I think you're living in fantasy land; regardless of his shareholding position. And if you believe that he'll choose our benefit over Brighton in any situation where a conflict of interest arises, then you're deluded. But whatever he does or would choose, it's not even a question we should have to consider. Pure shite.
2) The utterly infuriating point that we do not need to do this. Financially the club is in the best shape it's been in in the modern era. We have a completed stadium that is generally sold out and we have a waiting list for season tickets. That waiting list - despite the jealous sniping of supporters of smaller clubs - is at least 5,000 long as I know people on it. I'd always assumed the club was at it with the numbers, but now I know for a fact that this is not so. One of the summer's fashions was people finding out their waiting list number. My mate's dad found out his number this summer and realised there's a reasonable chance he'll die before he gets his ST back
. Silly b*****d should have kept it.
On the field we are in Europe for the third season running, have been unlucky not to win a couple of cups in the last 4-5 years, and last season skooshed third and lost two semis to Rangers. This notion a lot of our fans are pushing that we are a tragic case run by incompetent buffoons and that we need saved is pure nonsense. We're fine and in a good position to build. Relative to our main rivals we are very well-placed as a club when you look at the overall picture.
But here we are. You flash a bit of money at football supporters and they lose their f**king minds. It's a load of f**king shite.
This comes across as very holier than thou stuff tbh. You're entitled to your opinion. As I said before it's correct to have scepticism but this portion of the deal has always been agreed, we get the vote on the future part of it, that is out of our hands. So I can forgive people for trying to make the best of it.
You keep going on about a conflict of interest as well, we are categorically not having a link up with Brighton, and I can't see any way in what happens at Hearts will create a conflict of interest with Brighton. They won't be interested in our players or our managers, we are in a completely different pond from them. I want to know more about his motives, is it to make money off sales, is it to test his system at a different level? What i'm pretty sure it isn't is to use us a breeding ground for Brighton, they simply don't need us. I think he'll have sway, but if it's not for nefarious purposes, why is that bad? James Anderson has sway, Andrew McKinley has sway, Ann Budge has sway, they aren't untouchable because the FOH are majority shareholders. Tony Bloom actually has a proven track record in football and has no history of being someone who hurts clubs, why have we to start panicking that's the case now?
The main issue though is you seem to dismiss everyone who has a different viewpoint as you as stupid and they are blinded because it's different from yours, as if no one is capable of thinking on the goings on off their own back. You think it's wrong, so you have the clubs interests at heart, but others don't.
I think you'r e decent poster, but I do think you've let how hard you went in on Hibs cloud your judgement on this and are now doubling down even though a) their deal is none of our business, other than to laugh at if it fails and b) It seems a very different set up.
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10 minutes ago, kingjoey said:
You seem to be skirting around the issue that you have lost eight games in a row. You have one point from eighteen available and have scored a total of three goals in six league games. But it'll all be fine because these players that have contributed to that mess are better than that.
If you think Hearts fans are skirting about it, you're not paying much attention tbh.
But Naismith has effectively lost it this season. We have played different goalies, different full backs, different centre halves, a back 3, back 4 and back 5. Every single week it was being changed.
Guys would do well and drop out, others would do badly and stay in. For whatever reason it got away from him and he couldn't get a reaction. Shankland scores goals. Vargas got goals last season, Spittal was creative at Motherwell, yet we are getting nothing out of them, again because of Naismith. Spittal played as a 6 most weeks he's been involved. Vargas has been asked to play right through the middle but 30 yards away from everyone. Shankland has been a 10, bordering on a central midfielder.
You can think what you want looking in from the outside, Hearts fans who watch it every week are pretty unanimous in the fact it's down to managerial choices. Choices he wasn't making last season and that has badly dented confidence. Both in the fans and players.
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32 minutes ago, kingjoey said:
Exactly the same thing was said about the Aberdeen squad last season for the first four or five months.
And you took too long to act on the reason it was underperforming.
Warnock was a dreadful choice, but Leven got a tune out the same guys.
Our squad is essentially the same one we had last season that coasted 3rd and made 2 semis. There's been a bit turnover but we've got rid of squad guys like Halliday, Haring and Sibbick. Only person that left that was first choice was Cochrane and Penrice has been fine.
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There's a very low chance he'd be interested but we should be on the phone to Steven Schumacher and see if he's interested. Get the wallet open.
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36 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said:
Fair enough, happy to be corrected. Was mainly going off what I saw yesterday and another poster saying you'd failed to strengthen in the right areas.
I agree with Vincent, the squad is miles better than how we've been performing. It's not significantly worse than last season, and better in a couple of positions. It is a bit unbalanced but whoever comes in has options.
For instance Taylor was shite yesterday, but he's been good in other games, he was excellent at Celtic Park last weekend. We have a couple like him who've came in that are young and inconsistent and need a manager to get the best out of them. Naismith was not doing that.
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Potential ACL for Taylor. Absolutely shite news, that'll be his season if so. Poor guy and leaves us short.