CALDERON
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4 minutes ago, Been going too long said:
We have 3 starters and 2 young professionals , one of whom has played mostly lowland league. I am disappointed Murray hasnt learned from last season. If we get beat Saturday I won’t be saying at least Corr played 90 mins, it’s not a silly complaint @TxRover this is not developmental league, it’s a derby game.
How do you Murray hasn't learned from last season? He explicitly said the club are trying to bring more signings in and we need more defensive options, I'm not entirely sure what else you expect him or the club to do, at this stage?
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12 minutes ago, Stardog_champion said:
We’ll see how we do on Saturday then
It will tell us more than any of the friendlies did, but even if it doesn't go well its not a disaster.
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15 minutes ago, Stardog_champion said:
It’s shite that our defensive frailties have to be against our near neighbours. Murray’s second season now and yet we’re scrambling for a defence AGAIN?!?!?
We arent scrambling for a defence. The defence isn't complete, but there are enough players in the squad to put a defence out.
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Nothing wrong with that interview in the press. Murray made it clear that he wants to bring more defenders in, and he's hardly going to turn round and say the young guys aren't good enough.
It's a shame that we haven't got the squad organised before Saturday, but at least there's still efforts in place to get things sorted in the coming weeks. There's plenty time, I doubt any side has their squad fully complete at this stage.
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If they can get some pie cabin rolls on the go ill sign up for a lifetime season ticket now.
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I deal with print costs a bit at work, and it's tough to get small scale work done in a relatively short period of time without commiting to a decent volume up front.
Add that to the fact that demand will be dwindling, and I can see why.
I used to buy a programme every week, but probably haven't for at least 15 years.
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5 minutes ago, Michael W said:
For me, the League Cup group stage comprises of glorified friendly matches.
The early/mid 90s are here until at least the first league fixture.
Problem is, progression from the group can carry significant financial gains that can impact bringing extra players in.
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1 hour ago, Hank Scorpio said:
If we’d played 3 Premiership sides and been skelped in them all you’d have folk saying that we must now have no confidence and would've been better playing lower level opposition. Cannae win.
Mahady barely got a kick for us. He went out on loan and was fairly unspectacular from that I gather.
To be fair, Rovers won today and didn't really flag up any major concerns, so people need to create something else to complain about.
Claude Anelka's Rovers side drew with then Premiership Dundee Utd in a pre season game. That should end any relevance people place as to the standard of opposition in these games, they are glorified training sessions that fans just happen to attend in order to get their football fix. They are of no more value or relevance than the bounce games you see mentioned as a footnote in the Courier throughout the season.
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Haven't seen anything in pre season to be majorly alarmed about. I am a bit cautious regarding the injury situation, particularly with Matthews and Brown. Also we obviously need another signing at centre half, but will need to wait and see how Murray addresses. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if this player mentioned is Patterson, partially to add depth at full back and also to allow Dick to cover centre half. That isn't a long term solution, but will buy us a bit of time.
We were absolutely fine today, East Fife offered absolutely nothing in the match other than a pretty lame attempt by Austin early on. Its little more than a glorified training session, but didn't show up anything massively alarming. Ultimately, we will learn more in the first 45 minutes against Dunfermline than we have in all 4 of these matches.
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2 minutes ago, Been going too long said:
Brody Paterson still on trial with us?
If he is, he wasnt in the squad today.
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18 minutes ago, Cosmic Joe said:
Disagree.
Raith look like they lack strength in depth. We used 19 players without weakening the side. A softish handball and a goalie straying from his line was the difference between the teams.
We could well be facing each other in the league in 2014-15.
There was probably 4 or so starters not even in our squad today.
East Fife were treating the game like a competitive tie with some of the tackles flying in tbh. Rovers eased off in terms of pressing and intensity vs the game against Kelty last week, but even then could tell there was a gap in quality between the sides today.
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Difficult to read too much into that. East Fife were absolutely flying into challenges, and given it was a friendly there was literally zero point matching that.
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Earliest I left was after 35 minutes at Ross County in the Challenge Cup, when Cuthbert was in charge.
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51 minutes ago, Jilted John said:
What’s the budget available? You don’t know and neither do I because it’s not our job to know. We now have 3 or 4 full time employees to do that job. It seems they have blown the budget on too many wingers and not been able to attract our first or second choice centre backs
Do you not need to know what the budget was before saying that?
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All this chat around the club haven't learned is very unfair, considering we are still in pre season.
A lot of business has already been done, including a genuine championship standard striker and an experienced centre back. The final pieces aren't in place yet, but it's a real shame to see some starting to trot out lines like this at this stage.
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Liam Dick gets a lot of unfair criticism he's absolutely fine at Centre Back. I do agree its not ideal and we need more signings in that area, but if he needs to play there for a bit before that happens, that's absolutely fine. He's a better option than Nolan, in my opinion.
Appointing Potter as a director of football won't suddenly unearth a wealth of defenders we didn't have access to previously, who arent too young, too old, and have the relevant experience and capability to start at this level straight away. I'dsay we are in better shape than we were going into the first league game last season, and we still have the best part of a month before then.
I can't see it personally, but if the Considine rumour was true one look at St Johnstones squad suggests it would take them bringing players in to let anyone out. We've no idea what moving parts are in play to make potential deals happen.
Also it's pre season. There is zero need to panic at this stage.
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Just now, renton said:
I dont mind Dick as a centre back, right enough - doesn't feel like a huge upgrade over last season's defence mind...
True, but feels like a decent upgrade on how we went into the first league game last season - keeping in mind loans would likely happen into the first month or so.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Liam Dick at centre back, with Patterson signed as a left back - at least to start the season off with.
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20 odd years ago there wasn't much in ours and Falkirks attendances. Since then they've had a new stadium, been in 2 Scottish Cup finals, and spent a decent chunk of time in the Premiership. They will have grown their support during that period.
Same time frame for Raith Rovers has seen 2nd place in this league once, 3rd place once and 4th once. Other than that a mixture of absolute keech and "alright', with 2 absolute shit shows in Anelka and Goodwillie.
We've had a decent transfer window, but it will take success on the pitch to make a material difference.
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8 hours ago, Jilted John said:
What’s everyone’s thoughts on season ticket sales so far and what would be a successful number of sales once the serious stuff starts?
I’m probably in the minority of being a bit underwhelmed at the numbers so far given how many of them are now free, coupled with the significant improvements both on and off the park.
How many of the 1.4k are free?
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Ross is absolutely fine as a footballer and will easy get a club whenever he moves from the Rovers.
My issue is that we haven't seen anywhere near enough from him relative to the length of contract etc.
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A lot of the issues yesterday were caused by not having a holding midfielder, or a centre forward. We have proven player(s) at this level in both of those areas that didn't feature.
A competent striker for example, would see that game out of sight.
It does, however, push an inordinate amount of pressure on those areas of the pitch. We are asking 2 players who haven't made it through all of pre season, to effectively be available the entire season.
Its still early days though - I'm really keen to in particular to see Hamilton get some minutes.
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39 minutes ago, Stardog_champion said:
The second season in a row we are struggling for defenders, yet we are told to be patient. The whole debate during last season was the need to strengthen defence and attack. Yes we’ve strengthened up top. But Murray as a defender in his playing days just can’t seem to identify what’s required for those positions. We have two kids a centre half that can’t run and Liam Dick who isn’t very good in any defensive capacity. We might score a few more goals ( hopefully). But we’ll lose just as many if we don’t get what’s required. Defence should’ve been the priority at the beginning. Not trying to be negative, but those predicting we’ll finish in the top 4 are deluding themselves. It’ll be another season where defence lets us down.
Liam Dick is absolutely fine, and we probably looked our best defensively last season when he played centre half along side a "kid".
The goals we lost yesterday we absolutely nothing like the main defensive problems from last season. If you are going to lose the rag after a pre season friendly, at least watch it.
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Ah, people losing the rag after a pre season friendly. Good to know the good vibe lasted long.
All we need is an experienced, but not too experienced, young but not too young 8ft tall centre back that nobody else knows about.
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The New Raith Rovers Thread
in Scottish Championship General Chatter
Posted · Edited by CALDERON
Cove was the first game in the league, which is still a month away. I would expect and hope for the defence to have additions by then.
We don't know what deals were or are in the works, and don't know why things have or haven't progressed - so it's impossible to gauge what the manager has learned from last season. Sometimes things take longer to happen, and it isn't anyones fault.
Squads are not complete at this stage of the season, and the fact we play Dunfermline on Saturday doesn't change that. There's a lot of emphasis being placed on the fact we play them on Saturday, but I'd rather the right players are brought into the club - and if that means they aren't in the squad to face Dunfermline, that's absolutely fine.
In 2019 we started the league cup with a Fernandy Mendy inspired hiding to Dundee, with half this thread losing their shit. By the end of the transfer window we had brought in Steven Anderson, which helped us to win promotion.