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2 minutes ago, Disc Potato said:
Yes but nether said he had a bad attitude just they had spoken to him about it. It could have been constructive criticism for all I know.
It's not the impression your original post gave by a long way. You unfairly maligned the kid. You were clearly speculating. That doesn't do Berwick Rangers any favours in attracting good young talent on loan. Thank you for going some way to clarifying and correcting the record.
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4 minutes ago, Disc Potato said:
I have said what I was told directly.
FYI this is what I sent to the incoming manager
Cedwyn Scott (Striker) On loan from Dundee. Quick, takes up good positions and knows where the net is. Like him.
To be clear, the first manager told you directly? And then the second manager told you directly? That he has a bad attitude such that he treats it like a kick about with his mates?
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6 minutes ago, Disc Potato said:
FFS man.
read what I said. The previous manager spoke to him about his attitude. The current manager spoke to him about his attitude. He wanted to leave and the current manager offered to drive him back. He returned to Dundee so please move on.
He hasn’t played much since joining Forfar was all I was saying.
I read what you said. Your audience can decide for themselves, on the evidence of the lad's performances, whether he was treating playing for Berwick as just a kick about with his mates. They can also make what they want of your throw away speculation about Forfar. I will simply repeat my comment that your post is incorrect, except for the fact that he did ask to leave. Like the manager who signed him asked to leave. And like, it seems, a few other players. Question your sources.
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2 hours ago, Yellow Feet said:
5. There are some players worth taking a risk on for a bad attitude in my opinion. Cedwyn had a brilliant goalscoring record and that carried over to us.
Who's your source for saying Cedwyn has a bad attitude? It seems you can't be associated with Berwick without getting caught up in character assassination.
2 hours ago, Yellow Feet said:"The first thing Mr Harvey did upon his arrival was send Cedwyn Scott – a striker on loan from Dundee – back to his parent club" Cedwyn asked to go back and this wasnt the first time he was spoken to for his attitude, the previous manager also had strong words for him. He thought playing for Berwick was like a kick about with his mates. Check his minutes on the pitch since his switch to Forfar.
This comment from Disc Potato is completely wrong, except for the fact that Cedwyn was not sent back. I asked Disc Potato for his source of information about Forfar. He hasn't answered.
The idea that Cedwyn thought playing for Berwick was like a kick about with his mates is clearly fanciful nonsense. Where does anybody get that idea from? He ended with 4 goals in 6 starts with a top goals to minutes ratio, all the more remarkable given Berwick has been described as the worst performing team North and South of the border.
When a club is bumping along at the bottom of the league, the manager resigning, numerous players getting sent off weekly, a wholly unfit assistant manager filling in and then getting the hook at half time, fans angry and frustrated, would you want a player to express some honest words in a frank dressing room conversation? Or keep his head down and not say a single word that might be construed by someone somewhere as rocking the boat? Which is the good attitude? Which is the bad attitude?
The lad left home at 15 in the hope of making a career playing the game he loves, and worked hard to win a professional contract with Huddersfield Town at age 18. On the back of winning a fans award at Dundee FC for his performances in the under 20s, he went on to make first team appearances off the bench in the Scottish premiership. Anyone peddling the idea that he would treat his first professional starts at a proud football club like Berwick Rangers as kick abouts with his mates clearly has no idea about him. That person needs to question the sources of their information.
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On 11/04/2019 at 10:59, Disc Potato said:
Yes plenty.
Basically blames Berwick as club for Blair Henderson choosing Edinburgh City. Which job would you go for if there was £100 a week difference in wages?
"Sadly, we’ve had nothing but rain since and the fund is now gone" Does Dom do the accounts? There is plenty left as the vice-chairman eluded to at the open forum.
"leaving a boardroom full of dinosaurs to run the club" Totally disagree with this comment. As reported by Berwick Mad, George Mathieson has provided to the supporters club a strategy for taking the club forward, hardly dinosaur talk. John Bell spoke well at the recent open forum, there was a couple of points arising from that meeting that worries me but its not because the chairman elect is a "dinosaur".
"Whilst it’s blindingly obvious now that Johnny was the wrong man for the job, I felt at the time this was the case" The biggest load of aftertiming I've seen. There wasn't exactly a list full of shit hot candidates applied and the fact only two were interviewed tells you everything. At that stage Johnny was by far the best candicate and deservedly got the job IMO.
"The first thing Mr Harvey did upon his arrival was send Cedwyn Scott – a striker on loan from Dundee – back to his parent club" Cedwyn asked to go back and this wasnt the first time he was spoken to for his attitude, the previous manager also had strong words for him. He thought playing for Berwick was like a kick about with his mates. Check his minutes on the pitch since his switch to Forfar.
9. Ahmed Aloualou - Fails to mention he is actually signed with a championship club in Alloa. Makes it sound like Johnny went along to a school hall and signed him up. FYI, I also think this was a poor signing.
"any style of play whatsoever as the players now seem to have no idea or direction" There looked to be plenty of direction in our recent match against Peterhead.
"Harvey arrived with a bit of a reputation for arrogance and talking nonsense from former roles. " Nothing wrong with a bit of arrogance if you are a football manager, I used to watch all his post match Penicuik videos and don't remember him talking much nonsense.
This may come across as I am sticking up for Johnny, I'm not, I'm simply telling you the facts. Had a long conversation with JH on Monday as he totally disagreed with some of my comments on other platforms of social media. I told him my honest thoughts and I'll go along on Saturday with my pray mat and support the boys to hopefully win 3 points. Will you be there?
Berwick Rangers is a fantastic football club with a proud history that is having a real shit time right now. Frustration and anger is getting the better of all of us with the pressure of the Lowland League and the uncertainty that would bring. A reminder of some happier times and what a difference fans make getting behind the team.
Not sure where this information about Cedwyn Scott comes from? The only accurate bit is that he wasn't sent back. He asked to go back. The rest is seriously incorrect.
As for checking his minutes on the pitch at Forfar, what's your point? What are we meant to take from this? What's your inside knowledge of events at Forfar?
You're right. You said it. "Berwick Rangers is a fantastic football club ... that is having a real shit time. Frustration and anger is getting the better of all of us ... " So if a manager or player doesn't get frustrated and angry in such circumstances, would you say he had a good or a bad attitude? Would you want him to express "strong words" in a frank exchange or sit quiet, keep his head down, not rock the boat and treat it as a "kick about with his mates"? It can't be both.
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