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12 minutes ago, Ian38018 said:
We don't have a "full time game". We have league clubs and non-league clubs. How each club construct their pay structure is up to them.
Now I can see an argument for hoiking the current L1 and L2 clubs out into the current non-league structure. But, ultimately what would that achieve? Giving the remaining clubs perhaps another £20,000 a year to waste on foreign duds and diddy managers?
That’s the point there should be a distinction between full time professional clubs and part time community clubs.
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11 minutes ago, Blootoon87 said:24 minutes ago, Vandy said:Something like £1.2 million is shared out to part time SPFL clubs yet Lowland,Highland,EoSL,SoSL and the new WoSFL will get zero.
Why should these part time clubs share cash thats generated by the full time game and not the rest of the part timers who after all are just the same as them?The part time teams generate absolutely no income for the SPFL? Is that what you're suggesting?
Virtually none.
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1 minute ago, Bully Wee Villa said:
If we only care about which clubs the TV companies are interested in there would be a two team league.
The Professional game is what sells.
Part time clubs with a few hundred fans have their place as community clubs to bring players through.
Strachan was right in criticising some part time clubs because they aren’t even community clubs!
Dumbarton don’t even have a youth set up! Just 16 guys who turn up and play for a few quid in their spare time.-5 -
10 minutes ago, traffordab said:
Delighted for supporters and Iargs committee men that came to the right decision in keeping junior membership. Only right that its kept and junior football will remain being played.
Heres to many many more added to the list.
But they’re not a Junior club?
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1 minute ago, Junior Pub League said:
Well the part time clubs are the same as the full time clubs in that they are all football clubs so why should the full time clubs get their grubby little protuberances on the part time money?
Sometimes when you get yourself in a hole, stop digging.
It’s not the part time clubs that generate the money that’s why!
What tv company would pay to put Elgin v Albion Rovers on? Who would sponsor the bottom two leagues and for how much on their own?
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1 minute ago, Ian38018 said:
I get your second point - "Tail wagging the dog, and all that" - but do you really think the money is significant?
Arbroath received £64,000 for winning League Two a couple of years back. I cannot imagine that would keep many players in full-time employment if divvied up between (let's say) 22 Full-time clubs. The top Scottish clubs all need to learn to live within their means - a number do, I acknowledge - but snatching the buttons paid out to the likes of Albion Rovers and Cowdenbeath ain't the answer.
Something like £1.2 million is shared out to part time SPFL clubs yet Lowland,Highland,EoSL,SoSL and the new WoSFL will get zero.
Why should these part time clubs share cash thats generated by the full time game and not the rest of the part timers who after all are just the same as them?
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It would mean more money for full time clubs to keep players in full time employment.
Part time football has its place but those clubs shouldn’t be deciding what happens in the professional game.
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1 minute ago, CountyFan said:
Enough of this shite. The SPFL should be for any club who earns a place in it on sporting merit.
Correct and if they are prepared and able to be a real full time professional club then they should be promoted into a professional league.
If it’s a team of brickies and plumbers that train 2 nights a week then they can stay playing in leagues full of other community clubs with part time players.
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League reconstruction in the SPFL is like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.
There needs to be a fresh look at Scottish football.Gordon Strachan was right when he said that the SPFL should be for full time professional clubs.The part time clubs should be playing in regional leagues along with all the other part time clubs.
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Andy Robertson could still have come through at Queens Park playing part time football.
Strachan isn’t saying those clubs shouldn’t exist! What part of that does nobody get?
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Full time clubs should run professional football.
They are offering jobs to people.
Part time clubs who’s players main employment isn’t football are a different thing altogether.
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The usual hysterical reaction from people at lower league clubs in today’s press.
Strachan wasn’t saying the clubs shouldn’t exist!
He was merely pointing out that they weren’t full time professional clubs and shouldn’t be voting on things that were relevant to full time clubs.
Part time clubs have an important role to play as community clubs and in allowing kids to come through and play at a decent level before moving on to professional football.-2 -
1 hour ago, santheman said:
Thanks for your well thought out and excellently researched input.
You’re welcome.
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If the part time clubs weren’t being subsidised by the full time clubs then they wouldn’t be able to afford to play in a national set up.
Clubs with a few hundred fans and part time players aren’t professional football clubs.
They are just the same as all the rest of the non league part time clubs who train 2 nights a week and play on a Saturday.
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Strachan is right,there should be a distinction between full time professional football and part time clubs.
The cash that’s generated through tv etc should be shared amongst the clubs that are giving people full time employment.
Part time clubs should be playing regional football and should be there to serve their communities.
If clubs want to progress then they have to go full time.If they can’t then they stay where they are.
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16 hours ago, traffordab said:
Clubs keeping junior memberships to add to the east and north clubs .
Beith juniors
Troon juniors
Congratulations to both clubs in the decision proper football clubs with a backbone and value what and who they are.
Looking forward to seeing many more added to the numbers in future weeks.
Junior football is dying on its arse.
Good riddance to it too.
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League Reconstruction 20/21 season
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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Why is it trolling to back up what a guy who’s forgotten more about football than anyone on here?
Tinkering around the edges of a broken system has got the Scottish game absolutely nowhere.
There needs to be radical change,carrying on the way things are is not an option.