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14 hours ago, DiegoDiego said:
I've not seen any of your games, but these sort of posts seem a bit over the top, no?
You don't need consistent form, you probably only need one win in six to stay above Cowden considering the lead you've already got and the fact that we're already a third of the way through the season.It might sound hyperbolic but the performances have genuinely been that poor. Without Schwake, we'd be a lot closer to the bottom. He's won us at least 7-9 points with his performances. We were outplayed in the recent draw with Cowdenbeath and, but for their profligacy and Schwake, would've comfortably lost. We've still 3 games against them, 2 at Central Park, where we rarely play well.
As you point out, we've points on the board but make no mistake, we're very, very poor and have been all season. Our concerns arent knee jerk either - they've been stated here and elsewhere since the start of the season.
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1 minute ago, monthe blues said:
will the game be streamed
The club stopped streaming due to low uptake and costs.
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16 minutes ago, City Jacobite said:
Raeburn Bar - Stockbridge and 20 minute walk to the game.
Sorted.
They still showing sport after the posh upgrade?
The Bailie and Stockbridge Tap show games (I think).
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19 minutes ago, stranraerfc1870 said:
Can you suggest a pub nearby to watch the Scotland game before heading to Ainslie Park?
There isnt any.
You could try pubs in Stockbridge but its a taxi to the ground after. Same if you went to the City Centre.
Can help you out if you want to do that.
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1 hour ago, RubyTuesday said:
I think the club need every paying customer at the moment.They do. Friday's crowd will be interesting to see, with Scotland playing at 5pm, and no pubs close by to watch that then stroll to AP.
How many will fancy going to a freezing AP after sitting in watching Scotland?
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11 hours ago, tamthebam said:
In regard to signings Ouzy's been OK too if you accept that he'll never be a 20 goal a season guy (and shouldn't be played as a lone striker)
We need what I would call a midfield b*****d- a scrapper, a tackler. Every successful City team had one. Scott Hunter in the EOSL winning team and Subo in the LL winning teams. And then Lairdy (who I notice hasn't missed many Binos games this season). After the Bo'ness game I was only half jokingly wondering if Robbo could play midfield
The other thing to mention is injuries. We have a large list. That is a problem. I wonder if someone (eg a Director of Football) can't do the Moneyball type thing and look at players injury records. You'd never sign Toshney for one. Don't sign injury prone players.
A 4-0 shellacking by Albion Rovers ain't great but it shows how far we've come. Whitehill were once our main rivals and look where they are. I'm not panicking yet although Stenny and Cowden's results today are slightly worrying. We're 8 points off the bottom at least and there's winnable games coming up.
I hope I'm not seething by the end of November though.
One of Naysmith's successes was getting Ouzy going, when he came in (mind, it was James that brought him back, not Gary). He was never going to replace Blair's goals, as he's not that type of forward. We're certainly missing a DM. Someone like, let me think, Andy Black?
As for signing injury-prone players, its just plain daft. It just adds to those who think, and still think, there was little plan after releasing who he did.
While you can say we've came far, which we have, that doesn't mean we should accept whats currently on offer. I saw a stat that noted Friday was our worse home defeat, in league play, in a decade.
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13 minutes ago, Bay Citizen said:
I’d probably also put Tapping in as one of the ok signings, although not as good he’s been the direct replacement for Mark Laird. Although I was a big fan of Laird he was in and out of the squad all last season through injury and he is getting on a bit, so could understand the need for change.
Although he’s not been here long, I’ve also been impressed by Innes Murray so far. James Hilton has also been ok on the odd occasion but not consistently enough.
The goalkeeping situation has been the head scratcher for me as well. I honestly can’t remember Ryan Goodfellow ever making a save earlier this season that wasn’t straight at him.
After seeing Schwake come on for his debut in Forfar, I couldn’t understand why he’d been 2nd choice keeper. He has been outstanding this season and to be honest I can’t really blame him for last night as the defence in front of him left him exposed time and time again.
As I said before I’ve accepted injuries as an excuse for some of the poor performances this season and already agree last night was unacceptable.Lairdy was still good enough to have in and around the team. If you watched the YouTube interviews with the previous squad, you could see how much those guys looked up to, and respected, him. Thats tough to replace. And he certainly wasnt injured as much as the likes of Toshney.
Tapping looks ok but again, a shadow of what he's looked like the last couple of years. Murray's grand. Hilton's been poor for me. We've barely seen Kidd, and he's been out of position too. Reekie's been poor, regardless of what position he's played. Shanley another who hasnt lived up to the billing, though I'm willing to cut him slack because of his bout of Covid and the possible effects of that. Its a litany of poor recruitment decisions and thats part of the reason we've perfomed poorly. And with the number of injuries, I'd be querying exactly how they're training too.
The Schwake decision about sums it up. Just how he wasnt in earlier is absolutely baffling.
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12 minutes ago, Bay Citizen said:
I agree with a lot of what you’ve said but I could kind of see what Naysmith was trying to do with trying to build a younger team but I also think how deep the cuts went was unnecessary. Some of the players brought in have been ok, although majority of those are only loans, some of the other signings I’ve not seen enough of and yes some have been absolute dross and look like sticking plasters to cover injuries.
I’m sure a lot of fans are already at the point of demanding change, another performance like last night and I’ll be joining them.I appreciate the need for some younger players. I'd say Balatoni and Thomson looked off the pace. Trying to replace the former with a 'retired due to injuries' Toshney and bringing back Kane as a back-up beggars belief. I was excited by Bronsky signing but he looks a shadow of what we thought we were getting. The rest of the squad he got rid of wasnt particularly 'old'. Black, Antell, Blair etc all mid-twenties. Indeed, Tapping, Toshney, Kane are all older. Others needed to go e.g. Harris. And just why he got rid of the aforementioned Antell and kept Goodfellow is a proper head-scratcher.
There appears to have been no plan to replace them. The only highlights of the recruitment, so far, has been Robertson and the on-loan Schwake. And lets be honest, the latter has stole us a number of points.
As for the fans, this isnt a knee jerk response. Many had fears before the season and have done throughout. Last night was the final straw - injuries or not, that was unacceptable.
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11 minutes ago, Bay Citizen said:
Have to say I disagree with a lot of this, James had done an excellent job up until the first lockdown that handed Cove the title and denied us a playoff place. After we returned for the new season we were inconsistent and were horsing teams one week and then losing or drawing the next and were failing to gain any momentum for a title charge and by the time we went into the second lockdown, Queen’s Park already had the title in the bag and we were sitting outside of the play-offs. That’s not to say that James couldn’t have turned that around but might have been a factor of moving into a different role.
Gary Naysmith’s appointment was the right manager at the right time He built consistency and momentum, got some improved performances from players that hadn’t been making any impact and dragged us up from 5th place into 2nd and into the L1 Play-off final for the first time in our history. Apart from a poor 2nd half in the first leg, we would have been likely playing League One football this season. At that point I would think that the majority of City fans thought the board had made a brilliant appointment.
The decision to then let go of so many of our players during the summer was a bit of a shocker but he had earned the right to build his own team. After all, the majority of this team had failed to gain promotion into League One now on a number of occasions (ok the no playoff season is a bit harsh).
Then adding in the unplanned departure of Liam Brown and Liam Henderson (not forgetting his assistant Grant Murray) along with the falling out with Blair Henderson in hindsight had left a bigger rebuild than he probably wanted on his hands and in a short period of time to do it.
Recruitment has been a bit of a mixed bag and with the amount of injuries we’ve had, we’ve ended up back at failing to have any consistency, not building any momentum and fans already starting lose patience.
Last night though was unacceptable, the defence was absolutely woeful and with maybe the exception of Robbo, the entire team were not that much better. I’ve been willing to accept the building list of injuries as an excuse so far but that does not forgive last night.
I think Gary and the players need to take a long hard look at themselves today as they can’t afford another performance like that or the majority of fans will be demanding change at the club in the near future.A couple of things here - whilst he came in and got a tune out of the players, he chose to decimate the team, when all it really needed was the odd quality addition. Whilst I accept they didnt get promoted, they had high spending Cove and full time Queens to deal with. Peterhead were no mugs, in the first season with that team, and they ran out of steam, after leading for much of it. Naysmith should've looked at that and went 'ok, we were whisker away', rather than taking the scythe that he did. Many of the players he's signed havent cut it. If you're going to release who he did, you need a very clear plan and have similar quality lined up. It looked then, and still looks now, absolutely directionless. As example, Chris Kane returning was an absolute shocker. He wasnt good enough the first time around.
Keeping the two Liam's was always going to be difficult and they'd been watched for months. He should've realised it was likely.
There was no fallout with Blair. Naysmith just doesnt fancy him as a player. Its the second time he's released him.
As for the fans, it appears its already got to the point of demanding change.
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15 minutes ago, Crow said:
Aye ok even in Gary Jardine’s early days City were bottom of the EOS Premier. Keith Anderson would still have been the EN scribe mind you.
That they were. They still showed up and gave effort though.
Whilst the current reporter may not have been the reporter then, that didnt stop him from attending games.
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28 minutes ago, Crow said:
Worst City performance you’ve ever seen
... you must be one of these new SPFL types.
Rovers deserved winners. EC looked a shadow of the team they’ve been the last few years hope they can turn it around.
Been about since before promotion. Other fans said similar tonight, as did the reporter for the Edinburgh Evening News, who's been writing about our games since the Lowland League started.
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1 hour ago, RubyTuesday said:
Just back from the game. Firstly, well done to Albion, a thoroughly well drilled performance and some good away support too. We got off lightly with a 4-0 defeat.
City were bloody abject. Shocking. A terrible first half which left the crowd in silence. Apart from Robbo, I can scarcely remember any of the other 14 players creating any impact whatsoever. Quite how Shanley got a start ahead of Ouzy is a mystery. Not sure what was wrong with Innes Murray (who was at the game) but he was badly missed. Jinky Hilton has had one good game for the club, completely anonymous tonight and got hooked at half time.
Chairman Brown laughably said in the Evening News that the club are still aiming for the play-offs. At this rate it'll be the relegation play-offs he's talking about.
Naysmith's decision to dismantle last seasons squad (which made the play offs don't forget) is now coming home to roost.
264 hardy souls there tonight. I'm predicting less than 200 against Stranraer next week based on tonights sh*t show. Dark days for City.
Recruitment is the main issue. The squad needed a bit of minor tinkering not the hacksaw that got taken to it.
Tonight was the worst performance I've ever seen from a City team. An utter disgrace. Injuries only can be used to a point. Lack of effort, shape are all down to the manager.
I believe Murray is injured.
4 minutes ago, TxRover said:Any views on McKay? Allowing four is a wee bit suggestive that he’s not working so well.
Hard to tell with that shitshow tbh. Its been a different defence each time he's played.
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On 03/11/2021 at 11:55, DiegoDiego said:
Typical. Can't use it for football until next year but they're already doing track and field.That may be due to some random SPFL rule as well...
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2 hours ago, Hoofhearted said:
Looks like February at the earliest before Meadowbank will be ready.
The council are blaming Covid and supply issues.
There's been issues with utilities says workies on site as well apparently. They've had to dig up the front and relay it the last few weeks.
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41 minutes ago, RubyTuesday said:
I wonder if they will charge ECFC or LTHV prices for this one ?
Both clubs need to agree, so I'd hope they split the difference, at a minimum.
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On 27/10/2021 at 15:51, FatboyFatFTS said:
Absolute NAP we'll get an enticing away day to Ainslie Park.
Told ye.
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Absolute NAP we'll get an enticing away day to Ainslie Park.
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1 hour ago, Duncypoo said:
I don't know how we're still 5th, I managed to have a word with the Raith manager, who was there to see McKay I guess, but other than that the Kelty game was a tough watch in the second half. For me Tappings inability to win second balls in the midfield is starting to show more and more, he's a tidy wee player when we're on the ball and trying to play football on the deck, but the last two home games we've struggled to hold possession.
Tapping has never been a 'ball-winner'. The team's lack of a defensive midfielder has been obvious all season. Tapping, alongside Laird and Black, would've been an absolute dynamite midfield. The manager, though, thought the latter two needed to be shipped out. The lack of bodies has been obvious since the start of this season and the current injury 'crisis' exposes how poor recruitment has been.
The reason we're still 5th, I think, is fairly obvious - Brian Schwake.
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5 minutes ago, Pete83 said:
Once in and back to 3pm Saturday, I think that will help the club massively.
We'll be waiting awhile for that unfortunately.
4 minutes ago, Pete83 said:On a separate note, were City as bad as I've heard on Friday? Any positives we can take from the game?
Yes and apart from Schwake, no.
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2 minutes ago, tamthebam said:
Your name to some salacious and libellous grafitti.
That and the orange seats in the stand.
So, nothing then.
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27 minutes ago, tamthebam said:
Yes, passed it the other day.
And what has been added?
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1 hour ago, tamthebam said:
For those who claimed AP wasn't designed by someone who watched football have a peek over the fence at Marionville Road... Funny how they could build a stand 52 years ago that had nothing blocking the sightlines and can't now.
Nice orange seats though.
The latest pictures in the club programme, around a month ago, had nothing in the way of the stand. Has something been added since?
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1 hour ago, cowdenbeath said:
Only club I think it really worked for was Tranmere.
Tried it for a bit about 30+years ago. They were used as an example in the Chairman's programme notes. They've played Saturday's since the 90s/00s I think.
1 hour ago, Namond Brice said:I'm looking forward to the Meadowbank homecoming, there's +5 on most of your home gates straight away.
I think Friday night's were always going to be hit or miss, but Meadowbank is closer to the bypass and easier to get to for away fans than Ainslie imo. Also, there's a shitload of student flats gthat are continuing to get chucked up within 5 minutes of the ground, tap into that market and you're laughing.
I dont think they've ever tried the student market but it's make sense considering how the area is going.
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7 hours ago, BB_Bino said:
It’s a pity for Edinburgh because in theory it’s an idea that would seem to work but ultimately you’re not going to attract the fanbase you are targeting on anymore than the odd game and have isolated a large number of people in the process.And therein lies the issue - other clubs have tried it and its never really worked. There was no market research done either, so in the process have alienated a lot of people. As I said above, they're hoping Meadowbank provides a boost. Crowds were relatively decent there previously.
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... you must be one of these new SPFL types.
Edinburgh City
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Naysmith, if being truthful and not a bit of opposition mind games, said 'months' for a few of the injuries. Robbie confirmed he's out until at least February, in his programme notes.
The heart of the defence is a real concern. Balls straight down the middle could've cost more than one goal.