Basile Boli
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Well done Whitburn, finish the job midweek
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19 hours ago, Ammy Footy Fan said:
Have you seen both teams this season? Noticed he’s the Scotland captain so it must be a good signing for Obc, I seen St pats lost a couple of games against a much improved Greenock side who look as if they can beat anybody on their day.
Saw Castlemilk give Gartcosh a doing a few weeks ago but haven’t seen St Pats play for 3/4 months now, just keeping up to date with the scores
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21 hours ago, Ammy Footy Fan said:
I’ve noticed it’s extremely close at the top of the rankings now between Obc and St pats, the cup final on Friday will be massive for both teams. Also seen the league will go down to the last day in SPAFA this season.
St Pats not beat a decent team for 2 months now, fancy Castlemilk for both league and cup.
Seen that St Pats captain was playing with Castlemilk recently too and turns out he had a fall out with the Pats manager and left. Certainly adds a bit of drama to the end of season run in.
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48 minutes ago, glasgowlichtie23 said:
I would say that judging by the fact that it is Ali Adams that he is far from blameless in this situation. An absolute banger who has been chased from every club he’s been at.
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Said it before on this forum but Steins would literally be perfect for the jump to WoS or EoS facilities wise. Better than nearly all of East 3 and West 4 bar a few teams and playing squad wise probably on a par too.
Traditionally been an East Region side when entering cups too.
If the amateur level declines further I could see them being an early jumper, especially if the SPAFA is as poor as anticipated next season.
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Sandys are an absolute fucking gang.
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22 hours ago, TM1947 said:
Don’t think there will be many that could come across and do what Lanark have done.
Standard of the top amateur teams like Lesmahagow AFC were are similar to Division 3 and certainly better than Division 4.
Whether a full team plus management would move en-masse to a club is a different question.
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1 minute ago, Burnieman said:
A lot of clubs no longer want to be associated with the term "Junior" in the East and of course Highland, Lowland & SoS clubs aren't remotely interested.
I get that, but if I asked my mates and footballing acquaintances who are not as clued up on the non-league scene as you or I if they knew of the Junior Cup or the South Challenge Cup I know which way the answer would be heavily skewed towards. I think that is worth something.
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Can we not just amalgamate the South Challenge Cup and the Junior Cup and call it the Junior Cup?
Name recognition of the Junior Cup twinned with having every club in the south region involved. Sounds a win-win to me.
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19 hours ago, no such thing as neutral said:
I'm sure the Camelon committee know what they are doing.
Good joke.
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3 hours ago, Burnieman said:
None of it makes any sense, regardless of which amateur league is involved. Your post merely underlined it.
Let clubs outside of the Pyramid choose whatever path best suits them/prepares them for any future application to senior football.
Selectively using quotes out of context again to suit your argument.
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16 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
Take a step back. If the amateur league covering a particular area has no member clubs close to being at a level to move to senior football [your words] or have any ambition to, how can it be an attractive place to play for clubs that are? why should any club waste their time playing in that environment for an indeterminate period of time with no guarantee at the end of it? why do they need to, what is the benefit? none of it makes any sense.
You’re 100% correct there, there’s no benefit and it makes no sense. If I was picking a league to join in that scenario the SDAFA would be close to, if not bottom of the list.
I originally replied to a poster wondering if the SDAFA would have teams looking to go EOS.
You jumped on my post to bring up a completely different argument.
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1 hour ago, Burnieman said:
But your assertion is that clubs wanting to join the Pyramid should join a league like this for an indeterminate period of time before being able to apply to join a senior league. You've just holed your whole argument below the waterline.
Right so why would other clubs in a league not having the desire/ability to pursue being a Senior club stop any potential team from joining with that as their end goal?
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1 hour ago, Spyro said:
Kincardine incoming...
I wonder if anyone in the Stirling league might see it as a better option to make an attempt at applying for the EoS, rather than joining LEAFA or KoF or whatever other amateur league? The travel might not be much more in EoS Div 3 than joining a west league. Players can still be amateur, just need a ground (easy...!)
Would highly doubt that any club currently in the SDAFA would have the facilities, committee or playing squad to join the EOS any time soon.
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On 09/03/2024 at 08:10, Brad Bobley said:
A lot of ‘what’s the point in needing to go amateur first’ comments.
What is the alternative? 19s and 21s now fall within the SAFA, so are classed as amateur. If not part of the SAFA, where do they go/what do they do prior to applying for (and being accepted into) the WoS?
Is the suggestion to apply for the WoS when you’re 18s/19s then hope that you’re accepted by the time your players are now too old to play in those age groups? What is the stop gap if you’re not accepted?
A genuine question and not one to ruffle anybody’s feathers.More questions than answers in respect of not joining amateur leagues. A lot of snobbery about amateur but you’d probably find that the top 20 amateur teams in the West would hold their own in Division 4.
Nobody can give a decent answer arguing against the SAFA route, it’s “just because”.
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On 09/03/2024 at 03:03, Spyro said:
Back to ammys for diddies like this. Proper amateur league mentality
And yet we still have posters on here claiming that jumped up boys clubs with no history like St Peters are a worthwhile addition to the league.
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1 hour ago, Burnieman said:
I don't think there's any solution required, as there is no problem to solve.
Do you want a full pyramid or not?
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2 hours ago, Burnieman said:
I've not avoided anything. It makes no difference, so the answer is no.
Using the example of a well run community club who run mens teams upto say U19/20/21 level and have facilities that tick WoSFL boxes, really don't need to enter an adult team at a very low level in the amateurs (if the ammy league they join has multiple divisions) - and for an indeterminate amount of time - to prove that they will be any better an addition to the lowest level of the WoSFL than anyone else. They are probably better run than a stand alone ammy team.
It's not as if it makes any difference to the process, which will still be one of application in front of a committee.
This is more about the SAFA probably moaning about clubs leaving to go senior, and wanting to try and remain relevant. It's of little benefit to senior leagues.
How many clubs have left the SAFA to go Senior in the last 3 seasons? A handful at most.
Off the top of my head, Thorn Athletic, Linlithgow Thistle, Rothie Rovers, West Park United? I’d say the SAFA have more pressing matters to worry about than losing teams to Senior leagues.
I think it’s entirely fair for the WOSFL to expect prospective applicant clubs to have at least shown some determination to run an adult mens team instead of just deciding one day to bypass existing amateur leagues because a better option has come up.
After all, these boys clubs-turned-senior clubs who’ve joined the pyramid in recent years all preach about a “pathway”. If they’re that serious about having a pathway then already having a functioning mens team should be a non-negotiable.
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17 hours ago, Burnieman said:
Correct, all it serves is the SAFA. You have no idea how long you would need to exist as an amateur club before you got the chance to apply which even then may not be successful. Crackpot idea.
You haven’t answered my question over 2 threads - surely it is preferable for a team to at least have a mens side playing at amateur level for a given period of time before a WOS space opens up rather than having no mens side at all?
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2 hours ago, Burnieman said:
Why do you need to prove youself in Amatuer football first? makes no sense.
Well it can show the WOS that any prospective team is committed to it.
I know they’ve been burned already with Harmony Row jacking it in after 1 season.
Who knows how teams like Eglington, Knightswood (to use them As an example) will get on over the next few seasons. They might toil for a few seasons and chuck it - hopefully not but you never know.
it could also take years for a spot to open up, and when it does any hypothetical boys club applying will have to compete with hypothetical amateur sides anyway so isn’t it sensible that they’ve been in the amateur leagues during this time? It gives them something to play for every year while they wait for the chance to apply.
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A fair amount of the amateur sides across the Caley and Central have better facilities than the majority of Division 4 and a few in Division 3 so would be interesting to see who’ll submit interest.
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1 hour ago, Burnieman said:
A complete load of nonsense. If you're not a club (an existing youth club or a brand new entity for example) who has no intention of playing amateur but want to join the Pyramid/WoSFL, you have to first join the SAFA? madness.
Why is it madness?
If places are at a premium - which they clearly will be - then it makes sense to have a shortlist of clubs who have been committed to running an adult team for a period of time.
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Interesting. Hopefully this is the first step in a (long-term) plan to get the amateur leagues to feed into the bottom levels of the non-league pyramid.
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Interesting draw for the QF’s and SF’s.
Semi Final ties likely to be Shortlees v Sandys and Steins v Cupar in my opinion.
Tough to pick a winner from that 4 but going to plump for a Shortlees v Cupar final.
Cupar got to be favourites to retain after their dismantling of a very good side in Doune at the weekend.
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Second Chance: the EOS Second Division 2023-24
in East of Scotland Football League
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Don’t know how Bo’ness can only muster 4 on the bench with an U20’s side and probably best part of 15 signings over the course of the season.