MCL Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Yeh enlighten us.edited after reading your last post. - Well I've read them all and i'm none the wiser. You missed my posts about Brian then ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaver1 Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 ...but I think being expelled completely from the SFL would be harsh on the remaining fans who care about it. You forget how your Franchise was created in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Dunno if this has been mentioned already or not, but the talk around our game today was that we would know for sure on Tuesday if we're playing Livy in the cup next week. Not sure whats supposed to be happening then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Well certainly by Tuesday the court's determination as to what's going to happen to the club will be know, and the SFL will act accordingly. If it's admin (50-50 at best it would seem as the club have next to nothing to administer other than a squad of footballers of varying quality and a league membership) the the game goes ahead, if it;s liquidation then Livingston's last game will be Monday night- they cease to exist and must stop trading as soon as the liquidation order is made. Either way Massone is finished. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livi Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 You missed my posts about Brian then ? I never heard anything 2nd, 3rd or 4th hand I heard it 1st hand & therefore can tell everyone else that your post is just more Trust propoganda Same as what i heard Mr X 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest penelope pitstop Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Everyone on this thread so far is a "Trust" board member but they don't declare their interest, instead they hide behind user names in some sort of propaganda feed for the journalists reading the boards So does that make what they have posted either untrue or acceptable in any event? Where you down at the stadium doing that work to get the safety certificate you mentioned you were going to at the Falkirk game because David Hastie hasn't mentioned you were there. Or did you simply go down and take some photos having got your free entry as a member of the press? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantoms-livi-lass Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Only because they keep getting used in the papers Cha-ching So what your saying is you cash in on Livi, not give cash to Livi so you don't 'support' them then do you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Well certainly by Tuesday the court's determination as to what's going to happen to the club will be know, and the SFL will act accordingly.If it's admin (50-50 at best it would seem as the club have next to nothing to administer other than a squad of footballers of varying quality and a league membership) the the game goes ahead, if it;s liquidation then Livingston's last game will be Monday night- they cease to exist and must stop trading as soon as the liquidation order is made. Either way Massone is finished. Makes sense. Is there an outside chance that the SFL could decide to expel the club if they went into admin? Highly unlikely I guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloysius Snuffleupagus Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 (edited) Dunno if this has been mentioned already or not, but the talk around our game today was that we would know for sure on Tuesday if we're playing Livy in the cup next week. Not sure whats supposed to be happening then. We've got them the week after you in the CIS Cup. It's bit of a pain, as it would be a good boost if we could take them on and beat them. It's also not ideal to have a competitive game on 25th July and then nothing until 8th August - there might not be any suitable opposition available for a friendly on 1st August either. Edited July 19, 2009 by Aloysius Snuffleupagus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Makes sense.Is there an outside chance that the SFL could decide to expel the club if they went into admin? Highly unlikely I guess. who knows what the SFL might do. If it's administration, a hefty points deduction could happen, with immediate relegation to the third division being another, slightly fainter, possibility. That said the SFL will probably make demands that Livi guarantee to fulfil their fixtures this season and I very much doubt any administrator will make that guarantee. In that scenario, Mr. Administrator could resign the club from the league as happened with the old Gretna. In the event of admin though there will be an offer from Rankine on the table (250k.) and an unspecified offer from MacDougall, assuming he is still interested. But creditors stung twice are unlikely to look kindly on yet another CVA agreement. It looks extremely bleak for "Livi" surviving but as I've said already they really do have the luck of the devil in these situations, so who knows. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 We've got them the week after you in the CIS Cup. It's bit of a pain, as it would be a good boost if we could take them on and beat them. It's also not ideal to have a competitive game on 25th July and then nothing until 8th August - there might not be any suitable opposition available for a friendly on 1st August either. We're also scheduled to play them on the 15th Aug in the league. Losing 2 out of our first 4 games wouldnt be great either. who knows what the SFL might do. If it's administration, a hefty points deduction could happen, with immediate relegation to the third division being another, slightly fainter, possibility.That said the SFL will probably make demands that Livi guarantee to fulfil their fixtures this season and I very much doubt any administrator will make that guarantee. In that scenario, Mr. Administrator could resign the club from the league as happened with the old Gretna. In the event of admin though there will be an offer from Rankine on the table (250k.) and an unspecified offer from MacDougall, assuming he is still interested. But creditors stung twice are unlikely to look kindly on yet another CVA agreement. It looks extremely bleak for "Livi" surviving but as I've said already they really do have the luck of the devil in these situations, so who knows. I think we all learned from Gretna that its not over until the fat lady sings 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantoms-livi-lass Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 We're also scheduled to play them on the 15th Aug in the league. Losing 2 out of our first 4 games wouldnt be great either.I think we all learned from Gretna that its not over until the fat lady sings Make her sing soon as then! It's one thing us being in limbo but this is causing needless havoc for everyone. Has the SFL commented at all yet on possible scenarios? What post count was Gretna at? I really don't want to steal that record from them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCL Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 So what your saying is you cash in on Livi, not give cash to Livi so you don't 'support' them then do you? I don't need you to tell me which team I support You're the David Hastie of the "Trust" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantoms-livi-lass Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 I don't need you to tell me which team I support You're the David Hastie of the "Trust" I wish I was that youthful! & I didn't tell you which team you supported but merely stated which team you did not. Are you jealous because your friend 'Angelo' prefers David over you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 You missed my posts about Brian then ? I remember your posts about Brian and I responded at the time. In any case it was a disagreement. They happen in every organisation I know. It's not a reason for the vitriol you spout about Trust members. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest penelope pitstop Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 So does that make what they have posted either untrue or acceptable in any event?Where you down at the stadium doing that work to get the safety certificate you mentioned you were going to at the Falkirk game because David Hastie hasn't mentioned you were there. Or did you simply go down and take some photos having got your free entry as a member of the press? MCL - you have replied to Livi lass but not to me - any chance of an answer? Is the situation on the leccy acceptable or are the Trust right to condemn it? And what did you do when you volunteered to help get the safety certificate because it doesn't seem to be the clearing that the other volunteers were doing. Was it taking photos? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zupa Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Thief. Unbalanced. Liar Cheat. Crook. Criminal. Scum. Thick. Perm any 4 , from above and you have your worst nightmare. Still could be worse ................could be Chernoble. or Livvy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCL Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 So does that make what they have posted either untrue or acceptable in any event?Where you down at the stadium doing that work to get the safety certificate you mentioned you were going to at the Falkirk game because David Hastie hasn't mentioned you were there. Or did you simply go down and take some photos having got your free entry as a member of the press? The manner they post in is unacceptable if they want to be considered as a viable alternative to Massone to run the football club. Putting out propaganda under assumed names isn't being honest and upfront, something they condemn Massone for. I went to the game to take pictures as a member of the press. When a game is played behind closed doors (such as Celtic v Austria Vienna a few years ago), the press are still allowed to cover it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 We're also scheduled to play them on the 15th Aug in the league. Losing 2 out of our first 4 games wouldnt be great either.I think we all learned from Gretna that its not over until the fat lady sings To be fair, Gretna spend the last few months denying that the fat lady was even due to perform, despite literally years of substantiated speculation to the contrary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantoms-livi-lass Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 "MY" purpose ?I wasn't trying to shut the place down, I was trying to recover the money due to my company (successfully ) 2 boab and a wee orange worth eighteen hundred quid ?? No I don't have the contract. I think the PR position is redundant If I can manage I'll be down at the stadium tomorrow to do some work to get the safety certificate to keep the club playing football at Almondvale (unpaid Penelope !!) Will I see you there Big Man ?? MCL -This is what Penelope is talking about but you seem to be avoiding answering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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