Hen Broon Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Having Hopkin still in charge is worse than the relegation. Dreadful decision once again. Had Livingston playing some of the worst football I have ever seen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mealsonwheels Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Ah well, the fans don't matter so let them get on with chucking their own money away and alienating the fans. They don't matter. Stuck between Edinburgh and Glasgow not knowing where the f**k they come from. As pointless as that plastic team! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojito Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Are you fecking having a laugh?? 1) They know who I am. I have never hidden. 2) I've been there 21 years, they have not. 3) I do put my concerns to the club, although I don't waste paper, I say it face to face. Like to save the environment. 4)I won't put up or shut up & if you are official spokesperson for LFC then they will be aware of that. 5)The fans invest money and don't ask for it back under the guise of director's loans. They do. Hardly charity. Just to add we invested 50k plus and have not yet received our official shares yet so ask them where they are please? I will be following this one up myself anyway but you might as well forewarn them. Hope you also play for the supporters team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantoms Livi Lass Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Hope you also play for the supporters team. We have enough supporters to make a team? 5 a sides surely? Never a full team plus subs! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AND180Y Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Full-time wages at Livi is probably about 200 quid a week and if we're doing well we'll be getting 1300+ easily. Fcuk a visit from the low pay gadgie looms. £200 isn't even minimum wage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiah Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Are Livi dead yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Livi aren't offering wages of £200 p/w If you believe that then you are naive as f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozam76 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2016/05/16/livingston-hopkindeal/?platform=hootsuite Looks like we've reneged on the deal to pay McDoog back his money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnford Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Fcuk a visit from the low pay gadgie looms. £200 isn't even minimum wage. Fcuk a visit from the low pay gadgie looms. £200 isn't even minimum wage. Fcuk a visit from the low pay gadgie looms. £200 isn't even minimum wage. A number of our players are one £250 a week but because of their age the minimum wage wasn't applicable. Cole was however on a reported £400 per week which is about £399 more than I would have paid if I'm honest. I often wonder about the mentality of players accepting low wage full time contract rather than part time and having a potential career in some other industry at the end of their playing days. I know a number of our players used to take on part time work like Griffiths who delivered pizzas (when he wasn't getting half of the Lothian's up the duff) or the Jacobs brothers who used to market body-building aids but its hardly a long term strategy. I wonder if being able to change your description on Facebook or wherever to "full time professional footballer" is the real draw for many of these youngsters? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnford Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 We have enough supporters to make a team? 5 a sides surely? Never a full team plus subs! Not sure you'd be allowed in the supporters team my dear; not with that stick Anyway what time's tiffin? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnford Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2016/05/16/livingston-hopkindeal/?platform=hootsuite Looks like we've reneged on the deal to pay McDoog back his money. http://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2016/05/16/livingston-hopkindeal/?platform=hootsuite Looks like we've reneged on the deal to pay McDoog back his money. Nothing would surprise me of Wilson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnaw Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Supporters' opinions don't matter, wouldn't be surprised if you actually do have a say of what goes on down there with that attitude I wouldn't take a position down there in any capacity. I just want people to get behind the club, stop all the negative stuff and give the club some support. The players at the club read these forums. How do you think they feel reading all these negative stuff and then having to go out and put on a positive performance?. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnaw Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I genuinely believe Gnaw is David Martindale. He takes everything really personally. Wrong 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnaw Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 He's got some connection, or a really good wind up merchant that's at it. Terrible appointment, Hopkin is going to be under some pressure, the fans are going to be on his back straight away if he doesn't get off to a winning start. Beginning to think the stories are true and Martindale needed a puppet to be the manager so Hopkin was kept on. Has no clue about tactics or players positioning. Come on. Get real. Do you really think that that is the case. I hope not 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I wouldn't take a position down there in any capacity. I just want people to get behind the club, stop all the negative stuff and give the club some support. The players at the club read these forums. How do you think they feel reading all these negative stuff and then having to go out and put on a positive performance?. Maybe they should stay off the forums and just man the f**k up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAFKAC Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Is that some sort of haiku? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnaw Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Are you fecking having a laugh?? 1) They know who I am. I have never hidden. 2) I've been there 21 years, they have not. 3) I do put my concerns to the club, although I don't waste paper, I say it face to face. Like to save the environment. 4)I won't put up or shut up & if you are official spokesperson for LFC then they will be aware of that. 5)The fans invest money and don't ask for it back under the guise of director's loans. They do. Hardly charity. Just to add we invested 50k plus and have not yet received our official shares yet so ask them where they are please? I will be following this one up myself anyway but you might as well forewarn them. As far as I am aware the so called 50k shares was done during a previous dubious director and that this is currently in the hands Of lawyers. Mind you I am at the stage of not knowing what to believe. Seems to be a load of cloak and dagger stuff going on. I am sure that between the both of us we will get to the bottom of all the shenanigans at the club. Keep up the good work. Edited May 17, 2016 by Gnaw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champsfan Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Was anyone surprised Hopkin stayed ? Who else in football would be silly enough to take a job where u don't pick the team but get the blame for defeats ....? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin time Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 He's got some connection, or a really good wind up merchant that's at it. Terrible appointment, Hopkin is going to be under some pressure, the fans are going to be on his back straight away if he doesn't get off to a winning start. Beginning to think the stories are true and Martindale needed a puppet to be the manager so Hopkin was kept on. Has no clue about tactics or players positioning. 100% true. Gnaw and his recent backtracking on this thread is fooling no one. He'll chuck Hopkin under the bus as soon as things go wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowdenConvert Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 A number of our players are one £250 a week but because of their age the minimum wage wasn't applicable. Cole was however on a reported £400 per week which is about £399 more than I would have paid if I'm honest. I often wonder about the mentality of players accepting low wage full time contract rather than part time and having a potential career in some other industry at the end of their playing days. I know a number of our players used to take on part time work like Griffiths who delivered pizzas (when he wasn't getting half of the Lothian's up the duff) or the Jacobs brothers who used to market body-building aids but its hardly a long term strategy. I wonder if being able to change your description on Facebook or wherever to "full time professional footballer" is the real draw for many of these youngsters? Minimum wage applies to anyone regardless of age. It's set higher as you get older though. If someone was on £200 p/w this wouldn't necessarily be illegal depending on how many contracted hours they work which for a footballer would be less than a typical 40 hour week I'd guess. For £200 p/w an under 18 with a minimum wage of £3.87p/h would be able to work 51.6 hours An under 21 with a minimum wage of £5.30 would be able to work 37.7 hours For an under 25 with a minimum wage of £6.70 it would be 29.8 hours For an over 25 on £7.85 it would be 25.4 hours I don't know how many actual hours a footballer is contracted to work but I suspect that even on £200 p/w only an over 25 would be pushing it. By the time you add in appearance money, win bonuses and any other add-ons its actually not beyond possible they could be on £200 p/w and surely £250 p/w wouldn't be breaking the rules even for an over 25. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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