CountryBumpkin Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 13 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Thistle played 6 games in May. County played 7 games in May. Thistle got 5 days rest before the 1st leg. County got 3 days rest before the 1st leg. What, exactly, hindered Partick and helped County about that? Championship clubs need to get over this absolute fucking loser mentality of thinking things are set up against them. Its really not, and it just invites shitebag performances. Thats two years in a row a Championship side has absolutely collapsed in a 2nd leg v a rancid top flight side. I don't disagree with your summary there, but whats the mentality in pandering to the mediocrity that finishes 2nd bottom by giving them another lifeline, relegate them instantly like they deserve and have the 3 teams in the championship play off 4th v 3rd, winner plays 2nd. Or even better, increase the league size to at least 16 in both divisions and have a 3 up, 3 down system. Unfortunately given that the wee shitey clubs in the top league are too scared to give up their meal ticket of an additional game against the bigot brothers each season for any proper change to happen. So we move on with the status quo and mediocrity gets rewarded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Just now, TxRover said: By the same token, the “mentality” is established by the differing formats for the playoffs…which is effectively caused by the 12 teams with the split format of the Premiership due to TV. We could use the same format, but it would extend the end of the season by at least a week, which cuts into the season break, which is unpopular. Its set that way so, in theory, both teams play 38 games before the final. Realistically 4th shouldn't even be in the play offs, and it should be 2nd v 3rd then v 11th. I suspect you're one of these people who are outraged at the "closed shop" top flight, but never appear to criticize League Two clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Just now, CountryBumpkin said: I don't disagree with your summary there, but whats the mentality in pandering to the mediocrity that finishes 2nd bottom by giving them another lifeline, relegate them instantly like they deserve and have the 3 teams in the championship play off 4th v 3rd, winner plays 2nd. Or even better, increase the league size to at least 16 in both divisions and have a 3 up, 3 down system. Unfortunately given that the wee shitey clubs in the top league are too scared to give up their meal ticket of an additional game against the bigot brothers each season for any proper change to happen. So we move on with the status quo and mediocrity gets rewarded. I'v always wanted 2 relegation spots in every division, but clubs in every division refuse to allow it. Your own would vote against it in the Championship. 3 league of 14, 2 up, 2 down, a play off to see what happens for a 3rd spot in every division. Pyramid is open at the bottom. But again, every club would refuse that, so this "nasty Premiership clubs" schtick is just petty wailing from fans of a club who can't make the leap upwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Its set that way so, in theory, both teams play 38 games before the final. Realistically 4th shouldn't even be in the play offs, and it should be 2nd v 3rd then v 11th. I suspect you're one of these people who are outraged at the "closed shop" top flight, but never appear to criticize League Two clubs. Nope, ideally we’d chop the Premiership to 10, keep the Championship and League One at 10, pry a couple of percent out of The Old Firm to expand League Two to 20 teams, and start automatic relegation for the bottom two in League Two and automatic promotion for the HL and LL champs. Promotion/Relegation for the top three Leagues (promotion AND relegation playoffs to follow the 2-3/4-9 format and keep the automatic up and down for 1 and 10). Gives us 50 teams and true movement. Oh, and the B teams can make their own reserve league. Edit: Saw the latest post now, and wouldn’t object to two up and down across the board, but the playoffs are fun. Edited June 4 by TxRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Let's turn it round then if hypothetically the 11th placed team had to play 6 games just to have a chance of staying up how would they fair? Partick fucked it today no argument they just couldn't hold their nerve but 6 games will take its toll when there's so much at stake. No argument reconstruction needs addressing again especially with this conference league the beaks want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalziel8 Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) 15 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Its set that way so, in theory, both teams play 38 games before the final. Realistically 4th shouldn't even be in the play offs, and it should be 2nd v 3rd then v 11th. I suspect you're one of these people who are outraged at the "closed shop" top flight, but never appear to criticize League Two clubs. While your comment about 4th does hold some merit, if you take last seasons championship, going into the last game of the season only one team (us) went into it with nothing to play for. Every other side had either promotion or relegation at stake. That kind of set up stops dead rubbers and keeps the competition entertaining. I’m all for that! Edited June 4 by Dalziel8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryBumpkin Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 19 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: I'v always wanted 2 relegation spots in every division, but clubs in every division refuse to allow it. Your own would vote against it in the Championship. 3 league of 14, 2 up, 2 down, a play off to see what happens for a 3rd spot in every division. Pyramid is open at the bottom. But again, every club would refuse that, so this "nasty Premiership clubs" schtick is just petty wailing from fans of a club who can't make the leap upwards. I don't believe your last point is true, or certainly wasn't when the proposals were suggested during Covid. I'm sure we were one of the clubs in favour of the change in structure at that point. Whether that was genuine or a bit of "guilt" given the circumstances of our promotion to the Championship will never really be known. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Think in past years when the Championship side had to play Tue/Sat and then Tue/Sat again before facing the Premiership side then it was a major disadvantage. This year Thistle had plenty of time to recharge between games. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I see this thread has been going since 2009, with 8m views. Looking through the threads it’s seems that we’re only really behind The Rangers liquidation thread and Falkirk in terms of true pie and bovril box office. Not bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossgatesCynic Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Would have fancied a trip up to Dingwall next season for The Mallard, if nothing else. The division would have been considerably harder had Ross County come down though, so definitely a positive in footballing terms. With any luck, Partick & Ayr just fall to shit next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover1883 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Hopefully some signing news today... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 13 hours ago, Wardy said: I see this thread has been going since 2009, with 8m views. Looking through the threads it’s seems that we’re only really behind The Rangers liquidation thread and Falkirk in terms of true pie and bovril box office. Not bad. It Inspired the Falkirk thread too if you read their first post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buchan30 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 13 hours ago, Wardy said: I see this thread has been going since 2009, with 8m views. Looking through the threads it’s seems that we’re only really behind The Rangers liquidation thread and Falkirk in terms of true pie and bovril box office. Not bad. To be fair, about 6 million of they views probably came on January 31st and the first week in February last year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 9 minutes ago, buchan30 said: To be fair, about 6 million of they views probably came on January 31st and the first week in February last year. Ah definitely. Would have had loads of views after pumping Sevco in the Ramsdens too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithie Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/news/politics/council/raith-rovers-new-owners-unveil-new-look-for-starks-park-stadium-4169701 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryBumpkin Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 4 minutes ago, Raithie said: https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/news/politics/council/raith-rovers-new-owners-unveil-new-look-for-starks-park-stadium-4169701 Thats the FFP starting to break down the interview videos from Raith TV isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heid_The_Baw Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Raithie said: https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/news/politics/council/raith-rovers-new-owners-unveil-new-look-for-starks-park-stadium-4169701 Behind a paywall, and I already pay good money for toilet roll. On the subject of ground improvements, not this season but next........ Railway Stand, safe standing area...... Old concrete rip out, new terrace in. Apparently being discussed. I WILL be there if it happens. Footy should be watched standing up and from the side of the pitch. With the young team going in the SM Lighting stand (Railway Stand current seating) this will make for a decent atmosphere up the length of the pitch! Edited June 5 by Heid_The_Baw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 23 minutes ago, CountryBumpkin said: Thats the FFP starting to break down the interview videos from Raith TV isn't it? Pretty much aye. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Heid_The_Baw said: Behind a paywall, and I already pay good money for toilet roll. it’s a shite read… “The Kirkcaldy club is looking to make changes to the exterior of the stadium at Stark’s Park, and has lodged a planning application with Fife Council. Stark’s Park Properties want the go ahead to carry out external alterations to install solar panel roof array and wall cladding including formation of new window and doors and ancillary painting to the front of the building on Pratt Street. Visuals lodged with the planning application show a dramatic new look to replace the old blue and white brickwork, with plans to light up the club’s name and badge, along with an LED information screen. Rovers shared details of the changes with supporters' groups shortly before the new investment was announced with a local consortium securing a controlling stake in the club. The group includes former Kelty Hearts directors Dean Mckenzie and Andrew Barrowman, local businessmen Colin Smart and Ruaridh Kilgour, current chairman Steven MacDonald, and football operations manager Allan Halliday. Councillors will consider the application in due course.“ Edited June 5 by TxRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooz92 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 12 minutes ago, TxRover said: it’s a shite read… “The Kirkcaldy club is looking to make changes to the exterior of the stadium at Stark’s Park, and has lodged a planning application with Fife Council. Stark’s Park Properties want the go ahead to carry out external alterations to install solar panel roof array and wall cladding including formation of new window and doors and ancillary painting to the front of the building on Pratt Street. Visuals lodged with the planning application show a dramatic new look to replace the old blue and white brickwork, with plans to light up the club’s name and badge, along with an LED information screen. Rovers shared details of the changes with supporters' groups shortly before the new investment was announced with a local consortium securing a controlling stake in the club. The group includes former Kelty Hearts directors Dean Mckenzie and Andrew Barrowman, local businessmen Colin Smart and Ruaridh Kilgour, current chairman Steven MacDonald, and football operations manager Allan Halliday. Councillors will consider the application in due course.“ Here’s the application: https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/simpleSearchResults.do?action=firstPage This is the direct link to the application: https://planning.fife.gov.uk/online/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=RU38D7HFKLW00&activeTab=summary 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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