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5 hours ago, mizfit said:

 

 

 


Well….I’m not sure what’s worse, the fact her daughter knew she’d say this on a podcast and still uploaded it, or the fact she seemed to have an excuse for why she said everything.

 

 

 

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I’m not a fan of Janey Godley. She is very unfunny and comes across as a complete arsehole on media and social media. She’s also a complete bully, and it turns out she’s a racist, a homophobe, and anti-Semite and hateful towards disabled people. 

There is an element of enjoyment in her downfall, and the whataboutery gymnastics being performed by her acolytes are hilarious. 

That being said, I can’t help but think of Caroline Flack. Those laying into her on social media need to be careful. 

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29 minutes ago, milton75 said:

Much of that is fair comment, particularly the private schools bit as most of them also seem to get charitable status for who knows what reason.

Your points about diversity, however, don't take into account the fact that the rest of society has to subsidise these things. No-one says to me that I have to pay towards them going to the pub even if I don't want to go myself, so I don't see that as an apt simile. 

And it's not up to me to decide anything for religions, or indeed for any way of thinking. If someone can prove something, anything, to me, then I give it credence. If they can't then we're back in Flat Earth territory.

Lots of things are subsidised though they're of minority interest, it doesn't matter whether you personally use them or not. You subsidise farmers, opera, Calmac ferries, swimming pools, nuclear bombs, baby boxes, the Queen, cricket... You probably do subsidise the pub, lots of their workers will be on tax credits.

Faith schools aren't "subsidised" anyway. They're paid for in the same way as every other school, and you pay for those whether you use them or not.

There's a helluva lot more to being a human than just what you can prove. 

Sorry for straying off topic again, I wish I had more willpower. 

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10 minutes ago, TheBruce said:

Flawed premise.

It's ALL about equality and inclusion. No preferential shite.

No problem with faith schools, but not publicly funded ones as they are cited today, where a 20% minority get the benefit from the 80% majority who fund them.

If you want equality then it is state funding for all faith denominations, Protestant, Catholic, Muslim and so on. Otherwise it is state funding for nom dom's only and if the remainder who wish faith schools, then they pay for it privately.

And no ah buts about it.

 

 

That makes absolutely no sense.

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39 minutes ago, GordonS said:

So cancel culture is ok now?

Good.

As always, cancel culture is good when it’s taking down nasty people in positions of influence within society.

Cancel culture is bad when the powerful use to to suppress criticism of them.

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1 hour ago, Thorongil said:

I’m not a fan of Janey Godley. She is very unfunny and comes across as a complete arsehole on media and social media. She’s also a complete bully, and it turns out she’s a racist, a homophobe, and anti-Semite and hateful towards disabled people. 

There is an element of enjoyment in her downfall, and the whataboutery gymnastics being performed by her acolytes are hilarious. 

That being said, I can’t help but think of Caroline Flack. Those laying into her on social media need to be careful. 

I mean you can look at it that way, but im pretty sure I cannot remember Caroline Flack organising twitter pile ons of people or sending disgusting messages using further racist language to people who dared to criticise her. Caroline Flack was a victim, bullied and abused by people, Janey Godley is a bully who abused people. 

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15 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

I mean you can look at it that way, but im pretty sure I cannot remember Caroline Flack organising twitter pile ons of people or sending disgusting messages using further racist language to people who dared to criticise her. Caroline Flack was a victim, bullied and abused by people, Janey Godley is a bully who abused people. 

Caroline Flack did almost kill her boyfriend though so there is that.

 

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4 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Caroline Flack was ill, i sincerely doubt she had full capacity at that juncture. Janey Godley uses terms that mocked people without capacity.

Half the country is mentally ill these days, you can't go about caving sleeping people's skulls in.

Flack should have got the jail if she didn't commit suicide and Godley should be banned off social media.

 

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29 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

I mean you can look at it that way, but im pretty sure I cannot remember Caroline Flack organising twitter pile ons of people or sending disgusting messages using further racist language to people who dared to criticise her. Caroline Flack was a victim, bullied and abused by people, Janey Godley is a bully who abused people. 

I don’t disagree. At all. But if goes very wrong those who have laid into her heavily will find themselves in the spotlight. I’m not saying that’s fair, but it’s how these things go.

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