Bainsfordbairn Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: Council and they are too busy laughing at FFC replacing seating, pitches, floodlights and repairing the fabric of the stadium ie the roof at the clubs cost season after season. HSW I genuinely think you're senile because you're incapable of understanding things that are a matter of public record and have been repeated to you dozens and dozens of times. Either that or you forget about them five minutes after they've been explained to you. Your post is complete and utter nonsense from start to finish. The only person who's being laughed at - literally - is you. Have you not worked out by the amount of posts mocking your views that you're seen on here as the village idiot? Or do you just forget that too? Edited November 9, 2023 by Bainsfordbairn 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatapyBairn. Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, HopeStreetWalker said: How much is that worth on the market? Nothing as it's not marketable so it's worthless. The only customer would be the Council and they are too busy laughing at FFC replacing seating, pitches, floodlights and repairing the fabric of the stadium ie the roof at the clubs cost season after season. Would be interesting to see how much FFC has paid to the Council and on stadium upkeep since we moved. Bet we could have refurbished Brockville with the money. Anyway, it's academic - the club got screwed that's beyond doubt and we have gone over it often enough we would be going over old ground. You are continuing to confirm to everyone how clueless your are, the club don’t pay the council anything towards “upkeep”. We only maintain the parts of the stadium and stand we own as would have been the case at brockville. What is any stadium worth on market value? Because we are in no different position to any other club who owns a stadium or part of a stadium in that respect, nobody anywhere goes about looking to buy second hand football stadiums, it’s not like building or buying a house! The pitch generates money for the club as it is used almost 24/7, the flood lights are needed for that. All 3 stands and the pitch have been used for multiple concerts through the summers generating the club a lot of money, the artificial pitch allows us to lease the ground to the Shire every other Saturday again generating the club money, we had 6 seasons in the premier league which were mostly successful and enjoyable that would not have been possible without selling and relocating, space in our north stand is still available for development similar to what SA done with the internals of the south stand should we find the finance, similarly the land on the east side is also the clubs and we already have outline planning permission from the big bad council should we decide to build a stand or develop there. Without being perfect the stadium quite clearly is and has been a net asset over the years , the council owning part of the main stand isn’t ideal but it’s way way down the list of shit that’s been wrong with the club over the last few years. Edited November 9, 2023 by LatapyBairn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 If the council came and handed that idiot a cheque for 50 grand no questions asked he’d probably moan it wasn’t 100 grand. Clear agenda. Best ignored. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcastic Bairn Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, HopeStreetWalker said: How much is that worth on the market? Nothing as it's not marketable so it's worthless. The only customer would be the Council and they are too busy laughing at FFC replacing seating, pitches, floodlights and repairing the fabric of the stadium ie the roof at the clubs cost season after season. Would be interesting to see how much FFC has paid to the Council and on stadium upkeep since we moved. Bet we could have refurbished Brockville with the money. Anyway, it's academic - the club got screwed that's beyond doubt and we have gone over it often enough we would be going over old ground. Bet your fun going for a pint with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, Sarcastic Bairn said: Bet your fun going for a pint with. I am ! very droll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarcastic Bairn Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: I am ! very droll. No chance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 I see rice has left alloa to join the money launderers. I'd have thought he'd have more sense than to link up with that mob. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: I see rice has left alloa to join the money launderers. I'd have thought he'd have more sense than to link up with that mob. A weird one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartA Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 It’s pointless banging on about Brockville now, it went a generation ago and there weren’t really any options. We were on our hunkers and the (then) Council were out to get us. It was an amazing achievement for first the club, using one of our directors’ property expertise, then the fans’ campaigning power to get the new stadium. We can’t forget that or somehow rewrite history to suggest it was a mistake. What’s happened since might be up for debate, and I believe current directors when they say we’ve nothing to complain about regarding our arrangements with the council. Looking forward, the strategy has to be making the best of the stadium and reducing overheads there while getting our arses back up the divisions. A fourth stand will be a part of that, as unrealistic a prospect as that is now. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 hours ago, HopeStreetWalker said: How much is that worth on the market? Nothing as it's not marketable so it's worthless. The only customer would be the Council and they are too busy laughing at FFC replacing seating, pitches, floodlights and repairing the fabric of the stadium ie the roof at the clubs cost season after season. Would be interesting to see how much FFC has paid to the Council and on stadium upkeep since we moved. Bet we could have refurbished Brockville with the money. Anyway, it's academic - the club got screwed that's beyond doubt and we have gone over it often enough we would be going over old ground. Spectacular lack of self awareness in that final sentence! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBlueArmy1876 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Of course Brockville could have been redeveloped to achieve 10,000 seats. But it would have resulted in the whole ground being flattened, including the old main stand. There would have been absolutely nothing left of the original stadium, apart from possibly the turnstiles on hope street. It would also have cost at least £15,000,000 - which was about £15,000,000 more than we had at the time. And we would have had to play somewhere else for at least another season, and 1 at Ochilview was more than enough. In conclusion, it was quite simply a non starter to stay unfortunately 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe The Hype Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 17 hours ago, HopeStreetWalker said: we have gone over it often enough we would be going over old ground. I genuinely hope you take in your own words in here. Your fixation on the topic and the council is somewhat bizzarre if nothing else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebobsboy Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Shodwall cat said: I see rice has left alloa to join the money launderers. I'd have thought he'd have more sense than to link up with that mob. He'll get the manager's job once Martindale gets offered a bag of cash to go somewhere else. I'm surprised he never jumped ship to St Johnstone when he had the chance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) From last weekends games. Owen Hayward on loan at Penicuik - Got man of the match in a 1-1 draw against Haddington. Logan Sinclair on loan at Tynecastle - Played in a 5-0 defeat to Broxburn Shay Burke on loan at Drumchapel - Came off the bench to score the winner in the strathclyde quarter final. Scott Honeyman on loan at The Shire - Scored in a 9-0 friendly against Kinnoull Rhys Walker on loan at Camelon - Played the full 90 in a 2-1 defeat to Blackburn Juniors Edited November 10, 2023 by FFC 1876 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1981 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 I'm hearing there are potential investors in town and meeting with the former MSG tonight.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatapyBairn. Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, AJ1981 said: I'm hearing there are potential investors in town and meeting with the former MSG tonight.... How much of the club do SA and MR still own? Can’t be much more than 10% between them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mon_Eh_Bairns2018 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 2 hours ago, LatapyBairn. said: How much of the club do SA and MR still own? Can’t be much more than 10% between them? I believe sandy still owns a large share in the club, but is a very passive investor and lets the others run the club. Not sure about Martin though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Morrison back in the squad. Gary Oliver out. I'd be bringing Cal off the bench tomorrow ideally 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatapyBairn. Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mon_Eh_Bairns2018 said: I believe sandy still owns a large share in the club, but is a very passive investor and lets the others run the club. Not sure about Martin though What constitutes as a large share? He’s obviously not been active for some years now but I don’t think he has very much investment left in the club either (compared to what he once had anyway) would be surprised if it’s any more than a 5 or 6% shareholding now the sale of the recent share issue is complete. Would be interesting to see the ownership make up as it stands, of the former MSG only really SA and MR really remain. Douglas McIntyre may still own some shares as well but it will be minimal. Edited November 10, 2023 by LatapyBairn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 22 hours ago, Reggie Perrin said: Spectacular lack of self awareness in that final sentence! I commented on a picture when the Brockville stand was built. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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