P475 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: Once again, what should their statement have said re McKee? What was he banned for saying, specifically? The rumours I have heard is that McKee called Shiels and his father c***s. The evidence for this seems to have been the word of Dean Shiels. Should the club apologise for that on his behalf? Not for me. Maybe if you can provide evidence of something worse than that being said... But then by your logic maybe Dean Shiels/Dunfermline should apologise for his attempt to injure a fellow football player by means of absolutely halfing him with zero attempt to even pretend to go for the ball, considering I can show you video evidence of this and several thousand people witnessed it?? O'Hara, yes the club could have said something. Then maybe they felt that publicly slating him on the back of a fairly unprecedented 8 game ban wasn't the right thing to do for their employee. I recall O'Hara himself contacted Shiels to apologise. Again, as a fan I don't have a huge problem with how that played out. The boy was tried and severely punished. Case closed and he will move on. Inverness, the club spoke about that. I don't think there was a great deal more they could have done on the matter, and based on severity of fan misbehaviour and the subsequent statement from Tuesday, I think the club has acted in a fairly proportionate way through most of this. Genuinely puzzled what more you want or expect from them, or what you think it would achieve? To be fair bairnardo the word "rumours" about what was said could and, most likely will be exactly that. Do you honestly believe that the beaks would hand down a ban to a player based on rumours alone? That's like me saying that "rumour has it bainardo flung the eyeballs onto the park at east end". Should you now face a banning order because of that or do you think there should be more proof than a simple rumour? It would have to be proven to some degree or there would be very few football players eligible to play every week. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Apparently there was enough evidence to convict the two c***s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Does that mean that everyone on here has carte blanche lump Joe McKee in with the eyeball chuckers, which seems to be whats happening here, without having any idea of what he was even convicted for? What I'm saying is that the two banned players were caught doing /saying something that warranted their respective bans. I honestly don't think the SFA would give out such lengthy suspensions based upon the victim's say alone. It's a seperate issue from the stupid wee knobs from Saturday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) I thought we'd all agreed to give it a rest? Have to laugh at the "20 years of domination post" - in the last 20 seasons you've finished above us 10 times and we've finished above you 10 times. We've only been in same division in six of those years. That's far more crucial than head-to-head record, surely? Although even that is standing at 11 Falkirk wins, 7 Pars wins and 9 draws. I guess beating Dunfermline a couple of times a season is more important to Falkirk fans than overall league position? Edited January 5, 2018 by Poet of the Macabre 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P475 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 37 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: In that case, just pop the evidence in here What evidence do "you" require? You are the one claiming that lies have been told, so why not prove those lies? Your chairwoman/lawyer couldn't prove that lies were being told and I'll bet you can't either? Wouldn't you say there was clearly enough evidence to support Deans case? Or are you claiming there's some kind of conspiracy going on here? People do and say things they regret in the heat of the moment and, this whole sorry episode would have been forgotten if your player and club kept its dignity... admitted wrong doing... and took the hit on the chin. Instead of that they decided to further humiliate Dean by quizzing him to try and make out he was lying. Turns out that "your" player was deemed to be telling lies over this, hence the ban. Personally I think you should just bow out of this now as you are making a complete c*nt of yourself here. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P475 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 In fact... just have the last word on this now and move on bairnardo -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Close this thread ASAP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Don't worry will be in league one forum soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P475 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, D.A.F.C said: Don't worry will be in league one forum soon. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 An open goal for Dunfermline supporters sees their utter minks turn out looking worse. Oaft. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P475 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Oooft Hope you feel better now -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 The main issue with the McKee ban is that he wasn't even giving Sheils abuse about his eye but was allegedly slagging off him and his faither. Something which I'm sure happens week in week out on football parks around the country and is why he only got a 4 game ban instead of an 8 game ban like O'Hara. No evidence was provided to corroborate Sheils evidence and all witnesses called said they hadn't heard anything. The furore over the whole thing has seen him banned for a ridiculous number of games considering the offence which again although not being very nice happens all the time in various sports on a regular basis. O'Hara was a different case having pled guilty and was dealt with accordingly although to me 8 games is way over the top . The club like any other were not going to hang him out to dry in public though and have insured that he and the other staff at the club have gone on the correct awareness courses to try and make sure it doesn't happen again. When you consider that clubs across the UK are signing convicted rapists and players that have previously killed people whilst others are being kept on having assaulted police officers on more than one occasion and having to actually play matches whilst wearing monitoring tags I would say that O'Hara's case is pretty low down the scale for those calling for Falkirk to sack them etc. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Complaining that Shiels was asked questions at a disciplinary hearing 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmyself Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) In the past 2 days this has been done to death. O'Hara is an arsehole on the park -> Apologizes and is rightly banned McKee denies the offence -> Club defends him and tries the case, loses so he is therefore banned Fans sing about DS at ICT -> Club issues statement apologising Fans are out of order at EEP -> Club attacks them, apologizes to DS and DAFC and vows to punish them if found What else is supposed to happen here? All sensible, appropriate action has been taken, With the fans, when it happened again and the abuse is obviously much worse the board came out strongly against their own fans. I'm not sure where our board have went majorly wrong here. Time to get back to talking about football (where I'm sure we all have a lot of complaints about the board). Edited January 5, 2018 by ilostmyself Missed out statement @ ICT 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 In the past 2 days this has been done to death. O'Hara is an arsehole on the park -> Apologizes and is rightly banned McKee denies the offence -> Club defends him and tries the case, loses so he is therefore banned Fans sing about DS at ICT -> Club does nothing- only time they probably could have done more Fans are out of order at EEP -> Club attacks them, apologizes to DS and DAFC and vows to punish them if found What else is supposed to happen here? All sensible, appropriate action has been taken aside from the singing at ICT, club does nothing and then when it happens again and is obviously much worse they come out strongly against their own fans. I'm not sure where our board have went majorly wrong here. Time to get back to talking about football (where I'm sure we all have a lot of complaints about the board). The club came out and made a statement condemning the singing at Inverness. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmyself Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, Ranaldo Bairn said: The club came out and made a statement condemning the singing at Inverness. ah, my mistake, I'll change that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 In the past 2 days this has been done to death. O'Hara is an arsehole on the park -> Apologizes and is rightly banned McKee denies the offence -> Club defends him and tries the case, loses so he is therefore banned Fans sing about DS at ICT -> Club does nothing- only time they probably could have done more Fans are out of order at EEP -> Club attacks them, apologizes to DS and DAFC and vows to punish them if found What else is supposed to happen here? All sensible, appropriate action has been taken aside from the singing at ICT, club does nothing and then when it happens again and is obviously much worse they come out strongly against their own fans. I'm not sure where our board have went majorly wrong here. Time to get back to talking about football (where I'm sure we all have a lot of complaints about the board). Something about IRA singing and sectarianism in Glasgow. That’s really important to this case apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Luca officially released. Let’s get sexy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, gav-ffc said: Luca officially released. Let’s get sexy. Happy we’ve got him permanently. Hasn’t put a foot wrong since he came in and no different to when we had him on loan a couple of years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Great signing. Big man is excellent. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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