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48 minutes ago, Dave McInally said:

As I had mentioned before the FSS numbers are excellent. The research I completed shows that on average the ceiling tends to be half of adult STs. That doesn’t mean we can’t try and strive for more but we the board need to be realistic about numbers. 

One thing that hasn’t been noted is that if everyone is devoted to the idea of fan funding then it’s all encompassing and doesn’t stem directly from the FSS membership. 

I considered the importance of the FSS to be giving fans a voice but judging on here and other social media, I think more are happy to just fund the club. If that’s the case then FSS isn’t the only option in town so who’s to say prospective members haven’t signed up to the 1876 club, the Bairns Lotto or Forever Falkirk instead? They might even just have decided to spend more money on retail items to help. The point is that it’s all the same if your main interest is money going to the club. Some just might feel there are options that are more beneficial to them. 

I know many fans will be signed up to multiple schemes but the true number of those invested in actively funding the club will be a mixture of the numbers in all of those schemes together. 

I was going to up my FSS to £50 a month from £30 but I’ve joined the 1876 club and the lotto instead. The money is still going in the same but just through different avenues, if they scrap the 1876, lotto then I’ll change my FSS monthly payment.

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5 minutes ago, Harry Kinnear said:

I was going to up my FSS to £50 a month from £30 but I’ve joined the 1876 club and the lotto instead. The money is still going in the same but just through different avenues, if they scrap the 1876, lotto then I’ll change my FSS monthly payment.

When I quit the FSS, I put money back in elsewhere. Know others who had the same opinion as me, did likewise. If it’s about giving money to the club then as you say, it’s the same end product but a different avenue. 

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59 minutes ago, Dave McInally said:

I considered the importance of the FSS to be giving fans a voice

That is still an important part of FSS. Funding might well be the hot topic at the moment because of the position the Club finds itself in, but a vehicle for a strong fans voice must always be the aim. 

More members = more funds = louder voice. 

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19 minutes ago, Bairney The Dinosaur said:

That is still an important part of FSS. Funding might well be the hot topic at the moment because of the position the Club finds itself in, but a vehicle for a strong fans voice must always be the aim. 

More members = more funds = louder voice. 

I whole heartedly agree with the sentiment but not sure we can say more funds gives a louder voice when the money is handed over regardless, and on some instances goes direct to the club. 

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1 hour ago, Springfield said:

Regurgitating the same old stuff? No. Criticising the BOD FSS - no. My concerns is that we seem to have no plan B. I genuinely fear/worry that failure to gain promotion will see massive changes at how we as a football club operate. 

Do you expect them to sell FSS with “can we have some money please?  No worries if not, we’ve got other plans”.  Not exactly going to have people flocking in, is it?

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1 hour ago, Dave McInally said:

As I had mentioned before the FSS numbers are excellent. The research I completed shows that on average the ceiling tends to be half of adult STs. That doesn’t mean we can’t try and strive for more but we the board need to be realistic about numbers. 

One thing that hasn’t been noted is that if everyone is devoted to the idea of fan funding then it’s all encompassing and doesn’t stem directly from the FSS membership. 

I considered the importance of the FSS to be giving fans a voice but judging on here and other social media, I think more are happy to just fund the club. If that’s the case then FSS isn’t the only option in town so who’s to say prospective members haven’t signed up to the 1876 club, the Bairns Lotto or Forever Falkirk instead? They might even just have decided to spend more money on retail items to help. The point is that it’s all the same if your main interest is money going to the club. Some just might feel there are options that are more beneficial to them. 

I know many fans will be signed up to multiple schemes but the true number of those invested in actively funding the club will be a mixture of the numbers in all of those schemes together. 

I said the same recently Dave that if some don’t fancy the FSS, their are plenty of alternatives & by the looks of things, these are thriving too ie retail, hospitality (& no not just me), lotto, sponsorships etc. 

I personally disagreed with a lot of the feedback that came into FD via the letter but we are an open forum for debate, like on here, and was the right thing to share. As was to read out the very measured response and call for more feedback from FSS directly. 

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2 hours ago, Dave McInally said:

As I had mentioned before the FSS numbers are excellent. The research I completed shows that on average the ceiling tends to be half of adult STs. That doesn’t mean we can’t try and strive for more but we the board need to be realistic about numbers. 

One thing that hasn’t been noted is that if everyone is devoted to the idea of fan funding then it’s all encompassing and doesn’t stem directly from the FSS membership. 

I considered the importance of the FSS to be giving fans a voice but judging on here and other social media, I think more are happy to just fund the club. If that’s the case then FSS isn’t the only option in town so who’s to say prospective members haven’t signed up to the 1876 club, the Bairns Lotto or Forever Falkirk instead? They might even just have decided to spend more money on retail items to help. The point is that it’s all the same if your main interest is money going to the club. Some just might feel there are options that are more beneficial to them. 

I know many fans will be signed up to multiple schemes but the true number of those invested in actively funding the club will be a mixture of the numbers in all of those schemes together. 

Fans have never had a louder voice within the club. That’s because of the FSS. That is the most important facet and will always be the case that they are heard. I think that is what separates FSS from other schemes.

 

 

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On “plan B” I think there are several. They include boosting commercial income (great job underway), cup runs and transfers (neither guaranteed but not impossible), bring in the *right* type of investor (hey don’t grow on trees), and a break even budget if we need to. That’s a better position than even 12 months ago when the only plan was to stay alive. 

on FSS, I’ll admit to fearing that it’d tail-off once available shares ran out, but there does seem to be a strong appetite to support the club like this, so I was wrong. We’ve never, ever had what we have now. As others have said, the club has been saved by a mixture of FSS, Patrons, good stewardship and more discreet support from some existing larger shareholders and individual patrons, plus everyone getting behind hospitality, retail, 1876 Club, lottery etc.  I.e. all of us!

Imagine the scenes if we get that rub of the green and go up.  

 

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1 hour ago, Bairn to Believe said:

Fans have never had a louder voice within the club. That’s because of the FSS. That is the most important facet and will always be the case that they are heard. I think that is what separates FSS from other schemes.

 

 

To have two directors on the club BOD elected democratically by FSS members and own 25% of the shareholding being the clubs largest shareholder quite clearly gives the FSS a voice. The fans have literally never been so heavily represented within the club. 

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4 hours ago, Springfield said:

Regurgitating the same old stuff? No. Criticising the BOD FSS - no. My concerns is that we seem to have no plan B. I genuinely fear/worry that failure to gain promotion will see massive changes at how we as a football club operate. 

Exactly, something you've said on numerous occasions! We all know the situation, we need to grow FSS numbers and attract the right kind of investment or, yes, we will see changes. You don't have to constantly remind us of this.

You say we have no plan B. What would you suggest the plan B should be?

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4 hours ago, Springfield said:

Regurgitating the same old stuff? No. Criticising the BOD FSS - no. My concerns is that we seem to have no plan B. I genuinely fear/worry that failure to gain promotion will see massive changes at how we as a football club operate. 

If there is a plan B (which I would be surprised if there isn’t given the foresight the board has shown in the last two years) and are talking to other interested parties then they would no doubt be under NDA’s so they won’t be able to talk about it. 
 

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2 hours ago, ShaggerG said:

Exactly, something you've said on numerous occasions! We all know the situation, we need to grow FSS numbers and attract the right kind of investment or, yes, we will see changes. You don't have to constantly remind us of this.

You say we have no plan B. What would you suggest the plan B should be?

Baring the possibility of a new “third leg” investor, promotion or a cup run then plan B is obviously just cutting our cloth accordingly like 90% of clubs in the country that aren’t being bankrolled need to do, don’t see why we should be any different. At least the club is on a safe financial footing all be it what we currently spend on the playing budget may not be possible to continue into next season depending what league we are in. Which is why it’s important we try and back John Mcglynn next month as much as is safe to do so to give us the best possible chance of promotion. 

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Striker's a priority in January to give us another option when MacIver's not on it but it'll be very interesting to see where else we strengthen and of course who departs.

I'd imagine Allan will be chomping at the bit to go on loan as he'll know himself he doesn't fit into McGlynn's style of play. Offloading Mckay would be a dream.

Goalkeeper
1. Sam Long
31. Nicky Hogarth

Defender
2. Tom Lang
6. Coll Donaldson
26. Sean Mackie
22. Brad Mckay
3. Leon Mccann
20. Layton Bisland

Midfielder
8. Brad Spencer
5. Liam Henderson
4. Stephen McGinn
14. Finn Yeats
21. Ola Lawal
10. Aidan Nesbitt
18. Gary Oliver
7. Callumn Morrison
29. Calvin Miller
11. Alfredo Agyeman
23. Ethan Ross

Striker
9. Jordan Allan
17. Ross MacIver

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1 hour ago, Kelheart said:

£5 for parking tomorrow ffs greedy bar stewards 

Don't use the stadium car park, there's plenty parking in surrounding streets and West Mains Industrial Estate. You might be able to park in the new college car park

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8 minutes ago, FK1Bairn said:

Don't use the stadium car park, there's plenty parking in surrounding streets and West Mains Industrial Estate. You might be able to park in the new college car park

Those pesky away fans better not be buying pies or programmes neither. Selling them tickets is the thin end of the wedge ... 😕

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