Ross. Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Never done it myself tbh always done HIIT instead. Always done a mix of HIIT and SSCV, but have hit a bit of a wall in terms of shifting fat and decided to try something different. Frustrating myself in that I have a decent set of abs and have put on a good amount of muscle mass since the start of the year when I added in a bit of weights on top of that, but just can't shift what is left of my belly. Change of diet would probably help, but I'm not vain enough that I'll give up cake and takeaways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Seems to be a common complaint, wouldn't bother about it personally sounds like your sub 15% body fat which, combined with strength, is very good imo. Edited September 22, 2015 by Billy Dynamite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieLes II Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I'm ridiculously skinny, 5.11 with a 30inch waste. Reasonably fit cardio wise but don't have a single muscle in my body. What should I be doing? Easy access to the gym and don't mind going when I have the motivation just not sure what I should be doing when I get there. Looking to build muscle and tone up quite a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Pulled or teared a muscle in my lower chest playing football. This preventing me from going to the gym last week and this week so far although I'm still going to do legs this week. My day job doesn't really help either as I feel it's gotten worse over the past two days. I'm trying to restrict moving my chest as much as possible but having no joys so far. Any recovery tips? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Try training around the injury but if it still feels painful just rest it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 And don't go straight back to training hard otherwise you'll f**k up your recovery 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'm ridiculously skinny, 5.11 with a 30inch waste. Reasonably fit cardio wise but don't have a single muscle in my body. What should I be doing? Easy access to the gym and don't mind going when I have the motivation just not sure what I should be doing when I get there. Looking to build muscle and tone up quite a bit.Eat loads. It doesn't matter what you do in the gym if you aren't eating enough.Get the LDN Muscle bulking guide and you can work out what you need to be eating and how much by working it out by your body type. Their exercises are pretty decent too. I would take your time and go through it properly at the start, read it all and don't cut corners. As soon as you start doing that you'll fail. If you're struggling with form for their exercises, as someone at the gym. People are usually happy to help. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty79 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Compound weight training with free weights. Google "stronglifts 5x5" read about that programme. Good place to start but loads of other good places to start as well.Stronglifts is an excellent program and one I go back to every so often, been doing smolov jnr the past 2 weeks trying to get my bench press up, beat my pb yesterday with a week to goAlso been doing ct fletchers armed warfare and definitely seeing and feeling gains with that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I found 5x5 pretty boring tbh but it's one of the most popular routines so must get results. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Eat loads. It doesn't matter what you do in the gym if you aren't eating enough. Get the LDN Muscle bulking guide and you can work out what you need to be eating and how much by working it out by your body type. Their exercises are pretty decent too. I would take your time and go through it properly at the start, read it all and don't cut corners. As soon as you start doing that you'll fail. If you're struggling with form for their exercises, as someone at the gym. People are usually happy to help. Bad advice imo. I'm naturally quite slim and tried to bulk up too quickly. Ended up putting on fat as well as muscle. Depends what you want to do. For me I want to add strength for playing football and just because I enjoy working out. Some guys seem more focussed on putting on mass regardless of fitness and/or putting on fat. Going from 2000 calories to 3500 overnight isn't going to work. Do it in steps and adjust. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Said it loads of times in this thread. This idea of eating shitloads to get bigger is outdated and a sure way to turn into a bit of a chubby c**t. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Bad advice imo. I'm naturally quite slim and tried to bulk up too quickly. Ended up putting on fat as well as muscle. Depends what you want to do. For me I want to add strength for playing football and just because I enjoy working out. Some guys seem more focussed on putting on mass regardless of fitness and/or putting on fat. Going from 2000 calories to 3500 overnight isn't going to work. Do it in steps and adjust. Also about the quality of food you are eating. If someone is eating shite and saying "its ok im bulking and need the calories" then they will, of course, put on weight. I agree that doing it overnight wont work for everyone 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcat1990 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Felt the caloric deficit debate was inbound again. Sound the klaxon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Felt the caloric deficit debate was inbound again. Sound the klaxon. Calorific deficit is how I lost weight. However as a result my metabolism is now skew-iff since it's near enough impossible for me to put on weight now and it's rather easy for me to drop 2/3lbs in a week or so. May sound good but it's an absolute hassle trying to build upper body strength. Legs don't seem to be an issue though which is what I tend to focus on. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Calorific deficit is how I lost weight. However as a result my metabolism is now skew-iff since it's near enough impossible for me to put on weight now and it's rather easy for me to drop 2/3lbs in a week or so. May sound good but it's an absolute hassle trying to build upper body strength. Legs don't seem to be an issue though which is what I tend to focus on. Your last two sentences sound like they are mutually exclusive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Your last two sentences sound like they are mutually exclusive Well thems be the breaks. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Even if you're eating well a 1500 cal surplus is still a 1500 cal surplus and totally unnecessary unless you're on gear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I spent a good 5 months eating circa 3500 calories. Was good fun. My strength improved so much and i put a decent amount of siZe on. I did put a small amount of chubb on but not that much. I have now cut it down but my strength has remained. This wont work for everyone but it worked for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcat1990 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I think it's really dependant on the person. I go on a deficit and continue to lift heavier and get stronger, however I don't really bulk out much more. Bit skinnier though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'm doing that just now as well it won't go on forever of course. I know a couple guys who have trained to a high standard that believe that when eating in a deficit the body creates a surplus by using body fat reserves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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