KnightswoodBear Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Missy tickling the dalek's balls - class That a very "improvised but somehow got by the cutting room floor" feel about it. Edited September 21, 2015 by KnightswoodBear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Very positive the Daleks are being portrayed as actually being dangerous, the incredibly simplicity and unwavering style in which the dispatched of Missy, Clara and the Tardis was brilliant. Waiting until she ran so they could "hunt" her Shame it'll be undone by some bullshit time spin and Clara and Missy will be saved while Skaro will be destroyed again. Just once, it would be nice if some of the characters weren't protected by the plot, as this'll be twice (or maybe three times?) now that Claras being killed off before the Doctor manages to reverse it, outwith all the "Impossible Girl" stuff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) What if the Doctor brings them back by killing Davros and preventing the Daleks ever been born? Presumably then he would immediately turn back into Christopher Eccleston. Edited September 21, 2015 by Bully Wee Villa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 If they kill off Davros to save Clara I'll be utterly disgusted 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanmistermustard Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Maybe for once they'll just get on with it and Clara will die here. We know Jenna is leaving so here's hoping as would give it another edge instead of everyone lives but the baddies (and Clara's annoying boyfriend). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopy1967 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Maybe for once they'll just get on with it and Clara will die here. We know Jenna is leaving so here's hoping as would give it another edge instead of everyone lives but the baddies (and Clara's annoying boyfriend). Sadly I doubt it tbh. The Doctor will whip out the broken screwdriver, flick it about, buzz buzz buzz, a few dalek's will fly backwards and blow up, Clara and Missy will turn up with the TARDIS and he'll blow up Skaro, with Davros and 3 daleks narrowly escaping, so they can reappear in the season finale 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilbowie's Finest Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Sadly I doubt it tbh. The Doctor will whip out the broken screwdriver, flick it about, buzz buzz buzz, a few dalek's will fly backwards and blow up, Clara and Missy will turn up with the TARDIS and he'll blow up Skaro, with Davros and 3 daleks narrowly escaping, so they can reappear in the season finale Hoopy are you Steven Moffat ?? Edited September 21, 2015 by Kilbowie's Finest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Peh McBridie Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Kind of get the vibe from the teaser the whole thing is just Davros trying to mess with the Doctor. Don't think it's going to end with another simple Doctor defeats the Daleks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysouth Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Clara and missy will have used the vortex manipulators to escape. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killienick Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 The episode started brilliantly I thought. The hand mines were creepily effective and the 'reveal' was done well. The plane thing was a bit sh1t and just felt like another episode idea that was shoved in there. Obviously The Doctor will not murder a pre-teen Davros because that would intrinsically change the character. This theme has been examined several times on Who before and the outcome is always the same. I agree with the vortex manipulators theory, the fact that the Doctor has travelled from the future sans TARDIS at the end kind of confirms this as he didn't have a vortex manipulator on during the episode so will probably get this from Missy. Overall a solid 6.5/10 from me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Clara and missy will have used the vortex manipulators to escape. Didn't she only gave the 1? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killienick Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Didn't she only gave the 1? Yes but if Missy used one then what would stop her going back in time and giving Clara one too, or warning her, or jumping in and saving her somehow? It's all very timey wimey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I thoroughly enjoyed this for the main although I do wish Moffat would stop trying to show off. That scene with the tank and the guitar was just fucking awful. The episode had a few genuine scares. The handmines, Colony Sarff and the daleks were all pretty creepy. Michelle Gomez was excellent as ever. As has been said before, it would be nice if for once some bad shit happened that wasn't fixable by some deus ex machina plot twist. But then Moffat does have the out of being able to use wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff to get out of a hole. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Yes but if Missy used one then what would stop her going back in time and giving Clara one too, or warning her, or jumping in and saving her somehow?. The fact that Missy doesn't give a shit about Clara? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killienick Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 The fact that Missy doesn't give a shit about Clara? Agreed, but she cares about the Doctor, (in her own way), and the Doctor cares about Clara, (plus this Master incarnation seems a bit bi-polar). It would be cool if Missy saved Clara only to kill her later in the series - the arch enemy line wouldn't seem so throw away then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysouth Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Didn't she only gave the 1? There were 2. Clara's one was slaved to missy's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kebab Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Agreed, but she cares about the Doctor, (in her own way), and the Doctor cares about Clara, (plus this Master incarnation seems a bit bi-polar). In Classic Who, The Master was never insane, just bad/evil, I really think this mental instability in The Master/Missy is just a continuation from the Jacobi/Simm transformation, which I think has a lot to do with the very recent use by Jacobi's Master of his Chameleon Arch, which was very soon in fact just before that transformation, the result of which left a very mentally unstable Master, excellently portrayed by Simm!!! Missy is just a continuation of that damaged persona IMO!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 John Simm was great as the Master. He's just a fucking top, top actor in general. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killienick Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 John Simm was great as the Master. He's just a fucking top, top actor in general. John Simm was excellent but what RTD did with that incarnation bugged me. Jumping around with superpowers was just stupid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 There's only one real Master 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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