indicator Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 yes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 yes Is that Yes & Yes? Or have you only answered the one question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indicator Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Is that Yes & Yes? yes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indicator Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 but I could be wrong 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Anyone notice the consistent ugliness of the Rangers' supporters on last night's Channel 4 report? It's genetic , I think they can all trace their roots back to rats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigVicWanyama Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 So regarding europe, do rangers not have to be out of administration tonight in order to be eligible for europe next season? Sure March 31 was the date mentioned. Or is there some loophole that will be enivitably used to get them in? Yes, when they're still in administration as of 1st April then no Euro license. The SPL license has a definite shut off date of 10th April (I'm pretty sure). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIEA Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 So if Rangers can prove that Sir David Murray set up the EBTs at Ibrox to assist Ronald de Boer to buy a bus-pass there is no case to answer. And those that want Rangers stripped of their titles don't care enough about the environment. He would have gone for the bicycle surely, being Dutch and given the number of cycle tracks in Amsterdam? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigVicWanyama Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I read this short but intriguing fact on a tax-expert website: "The EBT is a trust that has been set up for the benefit of employees and a form of corporate tax planning. An additional benefit of the employee benefit trust has also been the ability to avoid income tax by the beneficiaries of the trust, who were usually key employees like directors and shareholders. However, the main use of the EBT is a means how to reduce the company's corporation tax. Employers may see fit to offer their employees benefits in addition to their salary including pension contributions or access to a private healthcare scheme. Sometimes employees can be offered interest-free loans for specific purposes. For example, many companies offer interest-free loans in order that employees can purchase bicycles or public transport passes in an effort to reduce the company's carbon footprint. " So if Rangers can prove that Sir David Murray set up the EBTs at Ibrox to assist Ronald de Boer to buy a bus-pass there is no case to answer. And those that want Rangers stripped of their titles don't care enough about the environment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Were these Trust Funds subsidiery to RFC, who actually controls them & surely the directors of these funds are bound to be listed in the respective countries where the funds are based? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Anyone notice the consistent ugliness of the Rangers' supporters on last night's Channel 4 report? Oh yes. The men are ugly and the women....whooooof. I think its why members of the press lie about supporting Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydave Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 These b*****ds not dead yet??? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiemilan Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 These b*****ds not dead yet??? I think they are dead we are just waiting on the post mortem prior to burial. Or will it be a cremation?Cant wait to see the white smoke! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Naw, lets set a little work project, come back after the Motherwell 4 Rangers 2 game that's just about to happen and tell me that no potential criminal breaking of the law was exposed Unable to answer the question I see. As I suspected, you haven't got a clue what you're talking about! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHawHaw Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Unable to answer the question I see. As I suspected, you haven't got a clue what you're talking about! Bookmark it cap 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 "Morning papers: 'All three of the remaining bidders for Rangers have refused to rule out liquidating the club should they be successful'" Pleasing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotWeissEssen Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) "Morning papers: 'All three of the remaining bidders for Rangers have refused to rule out liquidating the club should they be successful'" Pleasing Its around 42 days till the season ends. Once a CVA is proposed. - 14 days notice for creditors meeting - a period of time where they vote and pass a CVA - 28 days later admin ends Its not possible for Rangers to be out of admin by season end. Also the big tax case. I wonder if Rangers can start selling players now to raise funds to keep the club going ? The player would not be able to play for the new club until the start of the next season but this could be an option for them. The longer this goes on the closer they get to pre season where clubs survive on season ticket money. However they cant sell any season tickets till they are out of this mess. Scottish journalists don't have a clue as they seemed to reckon recently that it was looking up for rangers. Edited April 1, 2012 by RotWeissEssen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadénator Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 http://www.scotsman.com/news/tom-english-shift-in-rangers-administrators-position-on-liquidation-1-2209479 Published on Sunday 1 April 2012 00:07 ALL three of the remaining bidders for Rangers have refused to rule out liquidating the club, should they get their hands on it in the coming weeks. It emerged on Friday that Club 9 Sports, one of the groups interested in purchasing the club, have liquidation as part of their strategy (thought it not is their only strategy), but it is now believed that the other two, the Blue Knights and a Singaporean consortium, would also consider forming a new company if they felt they had no other option. Probably for the first time in public, the Rangers administrators gave serious credence yesterday to the possibility of the club having to be liquidated. They don’t see it as a fait accompli, but they have certainly altered their position, which was previously to say that liquidation was not really on the cards. “The preferred option remains a CVA,” said co-administrator Paul Clark. “And we still think it’s achievable and we’re still recommending that as the preferred course of action to the bidders. We must accept, though, that we have in Rangers a financially-stricken institution and there is an amount of toxicity in there as a result of what’s gone on. So all of the options have to remain open and it may be that some of the bidders decide that they would rather start afresh. We prefer a CVA but it has to be a credible arrangement. It’s a fine balancing act. “CVA is our option and it remains an option for all of the bidders. However, we cannot rule out the winning bid could prefer a different structure that meant the sale of the business to a new company and in that eventuality it is certainly possible that Rangers would be liquidated, but it would only be done so after the football club was made safe.” In what has become an intensely complex affair, Duff & Phelps have called for final and best bids by Wednesday. They are keeping the door open to all-comers until then, including any party who might not yet have got involved, or Brian Kennedy who stood back from the process last week. The best-case scenario is that, by Friday of this week, or more likely just after Easter, a preferred bidder will be announced. Clark refused to comment on speculation that Club 9 are in the box-seat now. “Very soon we will have our front-runner, our single party and that party will enter into an exclusivity period of probably two to three weeks so we can get the final deal in place. Our strategy remains to have an owner installed before the end of the season. It will be tight but it’s feasible. We will be locked into an agreement with one party either side of the Easter weekend. The situation remains fluid. I don’t think you should assume that each party has just come up with a single solution [CVA or liquidation].” It is understood that all parties have different scenarios in their bids, a plan for a CVA and a plan for liquidation and even, in the case of at least one of the bids, some kind of intricate hybrid of the two. Clark repeated his view that Craig Whyte will not be an impediment to a sale without explaining precisely what their plan is to remove him from his shareholding. It emerged also that the police have tried to contact Whyte as regards concerns they may have for his personal safety if he proves stubborn and refuses to back away from the scene. Whyte, it’s believed, hasn’t yet responded to their calls. Paul Murray, of the Blue Knights, was critical of the administrators yesterday in that regard. “The administrators believe there are legal mechanisms to get the shares from Craig Whyte. What I’d say is, why didn’t they start that legal action seven weeks ago, rather than now? The last thing Rangers need is more protracted legal battles. There are so many things to sort out – player contracts for instance,” he said. “If it’s not resolved in the next couple of weeks, I fear they might not be able to do a CVA.” In terms of the stories linking West Brom with a bid for Steven Naismith, the administrator wouldn’t directly confirm or deny it, but he did say there’s been interest in some of the Rangers players. “I will say that we have had approaches in relation to player transfers. We’ve had some approaches and we will have discussions with Ally McCoist before any decisions are made. We’re not in a position to make any decisions at the moment in any case. “I should say that it was only a few weeks ago that the players made sacrifices in terms of accepting huge cuts to their salary and had they not accepted those cuts then the issue of bids for players wouldn’t have existed because we would have had to let them go. They might not have been around to attract offers. There wouldn’t have been any decisions to make. They’d have been gone.” If there is a feeling that we are approaching endgame in the purchase of the club, there is still much uncertainty about what that outcome might look like. From their position of downplaying a liquidation, the administrators have shifted somewhat. The coming week will be another full of frenzied activity. Tick-tock... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 Haudit & Daudit now openly talking about the 'L' word. My goodness. Since day one - on this esteemed forum thread - P&B poster after P&B poster have known exactly where this is heading! Whyte and his lapdogs Haudit & Daudit liquidate Rangers, wipe out their debt, and leave a trail of shafted creditors pissing in the wind for their money. Pinning their hopes on Doncaster, Regan, and weak SPL chairmen bending over and taking it up tbe arse to ensure 'Newco Rangers' are shoe-horned straight back to the SPL basically for a television company's scheduling needs. Doncaster, Regan, club Chairmen.... you better show some balls, or you can take your 'SPL product' and shove it up your arse sideways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 In fairness to Haudit and Daudit, though they said they hoped for a CVA they have also said since the beginning they were expecting the club to continue 'in some form' - which was admin code for winding up and starting again. Agree Rangers fans are now being softened up for the inevitable but so are the diddy fans if you read Steve Brown's interview in the SoS. So from the six-man SPL board I think Rangers Newco have votes in the bag from St Johnstone and Celtic while Topping and Reagan will surely present a united front and probably vote them back in to protect the 'value' of their brand. You'd expect Thompson from United to vote against given how things are going and I honestly have no idea what Derek Weir will do. I suspect we'd let them in right now but there's an outside chance the 'Well Society may have some influence by then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 So are Rangers now definitely not in Europe next season? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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