Ken Fitlike Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 The corpse continues to twitch, but surely it is all over for what remains of Rangers FC as was. Eventually something will emerge from the swamp - they do have a large supporter base whatever - and no matter what guise they eventually return as (it looks as if the Servco model won't go very far) the rest of Scottish Football must insist as a condition for admission to any level the the official club name must be registered in the HSV Hamburg / PSV Eindhoven / MTK Budapest stylee as something like 'UTB Glasgow Rangers' The Orcs can call themselves 'Rangers' but every time the are spoken of or written down officially or in the media, everybody is clear that this is 'Used To Be' Rangers we are talking about 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BinoBalls Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Oh they can apply, but there must be no precedent for letting Walter Mitty led phoenix clubs back into the league. It must be rejected. Absolutely, but if you pop over to the division 3 forum / thread you'll notice a worrying number of limp-wristed, short-sighted numpties eyeing up two big home gates and willing to let them back in. Makes me weep. Think of a scotland in 15 yrs with no rangers and the benefits of a whole new generation of fans who might just support their local team instead. We have a once in a lifetime chance to banish sevco for good but some are only thinking short term. If we are to keep up the pressure then we first need to convince our own lower league fans to man the fck up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Why the fuck would guys like Whittaker and Naismith agree to play in (potentially) the 3rd Division? It's an absolute no-brainer to reject the Newco. Buns on my Facebook are baying for the pair's blood. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Absolutely, but if you pop over to the division 3 forum / thread you'll notice a worrying number of closet currants eyeing up two big home gates and willing to let them back in. Makes me weep. Think of a scotland in 15 yrs with no rangers and the benefits of a whole new generation of fans who might just support their local team instead. We have a once in a lifetime chance to banish sevco for good but some are only thinking short term. If we are to keep up the pressure then we first need to convince our own lower league fans to man the fck up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 A dream scenario would be for Newco to start in the 3rd, Ally to sign a bunch of haddies then be sacked because they are struggling in the league,the Orcs to stop going, and finally Green to pull out his £2 investment. A whimpering end to this blight on society. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 The treatment of these guys by the Newco fans is astonishing. They took at massive wage cut to save the club on what seems now to be broken promises from Green. How many Berrrz would do the same? Judging by the pitiful amount they raised for the RFFF not many. The Rangers players' actions have been one of the few acts of good grace in this whole sorry saga. The idea that they are mercenaries for walking away is ridiculous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Thought it might be worth keeping track of the 'ever hard done by' Sevco. Here's a squad list (taken from Sky) with notes for those rejected the switch to newco/out of contract. If there's any errors, please feel free to correct. Goalkeepers Alan McGregor - Rumoured to be rejecting switch to newco Neil Alexander - Out of contract Scott Gallacher Grant Adam Defenders Dorin Goian Kirk Broadfoot Sasa Papac - out of contract Lee Wallace Steven Whittaker - rejected switch to newco Carlos Bocanegra - rumoured to be rejecting switch to newco/on verge of signing for Toronto Ross Perry Chris Hegary - out of contract Darren Cole - out of contract Midfielders Lee McCulloch - rumoured to be staying Maurice Edu Steven Davis - rumoured to be rejecting switch to newco Alejandro Bedoya John Fleck Jamie Ness Salim Kerkar Kyle Hutton Andrew Mitchell Rhys McCable - rejected switch to Newco Robbie Crawford Lewis MacLeod Barry McKay Juan Ortiz Strikers Kyle Lafferty - rumoured to be rejecting switch to newco Steven Naismith - rejected switch to newco David Healy - out of contract Andrew Little - out of contract Sone Aluko - rejected switch to newco Kane Hemmings If I've missed any OOC players, or indeed any other players, feel free to update. I'll keep this up to date as best I can. Rhys McCable Sounds like a sexual perversion!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Absolutely, but if you pop over to the division 3 forum / thread you'll notice a worrying number of limp-wristed, short-sighted numpties eyeing up two big home gates and willing to let them back in. Makes me weep. Think of a scotland in 15 yrs with no rangers and the benefits of a whole new generation of fans who might just support their local team instead. We have a once in a lifetime chance to banish sevco for good but some are only thinking short term. If we are to keep up the pressure then we first need to convince our own lower league fans to man the fck up. I have no problem with Rangers 2 standing for election in to the 3rd. They'd almost certainly win, but that's fair enough. Entry into the first division would be as scandalous as entry into the SPL, but there's a worrying number on the First Division forum tacitly supporting the idea by claiming its all a done deal anyway. That's where the real effort needs to be placed, into preventing Rangers 2 getting, somehow, into the first division. I can see them being suspended for a year and reinstated into the first division - a remodeled version with 18 teams - in two years time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 One thing's for certain, It's clear now that asking the appelate tribunal (remember them) to reinstate the transfer embargo is not an option for Rangers given their players are now rejecting being TUPEd. Any word on when/if these guys are going to be sitting again - any word on whether the new rangers will be liable for any punishment dealt to the old rangers? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jags4ever Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I can see them being suspended for a year and reinstated into the first division - a remodeled version with 18 teams - in two years time. Just said exactly the same to my brother. For their own good they need to be suspended for a year to sort out their mess of a club. No way can all this be rsolved by the time the season kicks off. With the potential for more legal action over players contract it will drag on and on Keep things as they are this year without zRangers and sort out a proper league reconstruction in time for season 13/14 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Why the f**k would guys like Whittaker and Naismith agree to play in (potentially) the 3rd Division? It's an absolute no-brainer to reject the Newco. Buns on my Facebook are baying for the pair's blood. The Orcs live in a deluded world where they think that because they're 'more than a club', all players must feel the same. The reality is that the players rightfully saw Rangers as a club just like any other (with the added bonus of having the occasional interesting derby) and fans don't understand that playing in front of them is just a job for most of the players. Assuming that some of the 'Rangers' support have jobs, their passion for their club lies outwith that as a recreation which dominates part of their life even if they think their life is Rangers. If Rangers do badly on the park, it just makes their life a bit more depressing but they demand that players destroy their careers and future life just for the supporter's 'fun'. They forget this is a business where you're 'past it' by the time you're 40 and these guys need to fulfil all career ambitions in the next ten years or so. Do they honestly expect them to spend at least three of those years playing against part-time players who themselves just play for fun outwith work Mon-Friday for £50 pocket-money a week? Wake up and smell the coffee. Edited June 25, 2012 by Hedgecutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Edit: probably how it went ... ** phone rings ** seccy: SFA how can I can help you .. Green: They're walking away .. help !! seccy: Who are you ? Green: Mr. Green the Rangers owner ... seccy: Ranger's , lemme see .. no we have no record of a Rangers (pause) .. hold on a minute .. Sevco .... there's a note here stating people may ring insisting that Rangers still exist ... is that the one ? Green: YES !! seccy: So what can we do for you .. Green: My players are refusing to transfer over to my new company and selling them on was part of my plan to screw the creditors and the oldco .. Can I take legal action seccy: Mr Green you really need to seek professional legal advice in these matters it's not for the SFA to tell you what to do, Green: Aye but I have nae pot to piss in ... I canne afford a lawyer. seccy: Hardly our problem Mr Green .. bye . ** click *** Investors (rumoured) gathered around his desk : "So whit did they say?" Green: We are within our rights to seek legal redress against these scoundrels ... OR maybe Green didn't write the number down properly and he's been getting advice from a wee guy in a single end in Vicky road. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 The Orcs live in a deluded world where they think that because they're 'more than a club', all players must feel the same. The reality is that the players rightfully saw Rangers as a club just like any other and fans don't understand that playing in front of them is just a job for most of the players. Assuming that some of the 'Rangers' support have jobs, their passion for their club lies without that as a recreation which dominates their life. If Rangers do badly on the park, it just makes their life a bit more depressing while they demand that players destroy their careers and future life just for their 'fun'. They forget this is a business where you're 'past it' by the time you're 40 and these guys need to fulfil all career ambitions in the next ten years or so. Do they honestly expect them to spend at least three of those years playing against part-time players? Wake up and smell the coffee. It makes what Ally McGoebbels said worse when he was going to walk away when Smith was hanging about for a day or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiltrum Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) There is not enough time to do what is needed to be up and running for the approaching season the claim is we dont do walking away thats exactly whats happening in effect Sevco are the essence of the old club but the cardigan put the mockers on that with his failed bid and sowed the seeds of doubt in the minds of the peepul so now they will not buy Charlies tickets so just like the tax fiasco it's a self - styled failure WATP my arse move on. Edited June 25, 2012 by shiltrum 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I await the next thought provoking statement from Sandy Jardine Whose thoughts will he be provoking - his own or ours? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monrovianmonk Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 “Of course, they had concerns but after asking all the relevant questions it was business as usual. That applies to the groundsmen, the tea ladies, the office staff and everyone else who make Rangers tick. Rangers is still Rangers and players, above all, should know that.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araminta Moonbeam QC Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Phil McMadeUpName blog this morning says he understands senior staff at Ibrokes have been told to expect 'a year out'. Seems plausible, I cannot see this mess being sorted in time to compete in any league (if they can find one that will have them). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 There is not enough time to do what is needed to be up and running for the approaching season the claim is we dont do walking away thats exactly whats happening in effect Sevco are the essence of the old club but the cardigan put the mockers on that with his failed bid and sowed the seeds of doubt in the minds of the peepul so now they will not buy Charlies tickets so just like the tax fiasco it's a self - styled failure WATP my arse move on. I honestly don't see any circumstances in which Rangers aren't suspended for a season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie guevara Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Just dropped in to Rangers Media. Like watching a car crash through your fingers, or a sloth wondering why moss is growing on itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 When I read the reports from the Record, etc, and listen to the radio, I actually start to understand how the Rangers fans can be so deluded. If all I read/heard was that Stephen Thompson was a billionaire and we were going to win the Champions League, I'd probably be off my head too! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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