FrugalNory Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 1341482261[/url]' post='6403407']No I understand that semantic argument well. I did not say I was OK with it, I stated that it may be a necessary evil. What has happened to newcos in other leagues? Have they had to start again from the bottom every time? It should never, ever be necessary to passport a new team into one of the top leagues for money. If so then the competition itself deserves to go tits up IMO. Other leagues can do as they wish with newcos, the second the senior Scottish league gives a new team a leg up for a few quid is the day I stop spending money watching Scottish football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 If thats the list of enemies, i'd love to see the list of friends. Donald Findlay John "Bomber" Brown er.... anymore? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share Posted July 5, 2012 Thanks for the understanding Sailor, and by extension all those decent posters on here. Johnston has been a total embarrassment for some time now, and it makes us cringe when opposition fans pick up on his nonsense. As chairman, it can be said that he DOES speak for the club, but he certainly doesn't always speak for the fans - I think we've made that clear. I hope that no fans do boycott us next year - the pies are still excelllent, and good cheap beer is available in a number of fine establishments. Plus there's always a chance of three points when you visit. Maybe Johnston is a bit of a knob. Maybe he clarted in his pampers and voted with extreme self-interest... despite knowing how the vote would go. Maybe he's this, that or the other. If he starts willfully witholding tax and PAYE, pays his players illegally, takes the SFA to court, opens his gob and sees other people threatened, marches on Hampden and generally acts the Johnny big-baws playground bully and treats the rest of the world like dog shit on his shoe..... Then. Maybe then I'll hammer the guy. Until such times, he's just a bit of a knob with a whiffy nappy. Kilmarnock will get my custom next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superimp69 Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Auld Heid - you're just not getting it! Rangers are gone. All the consequences of not having rangers are already here caused by rangers financial cheating. newco don't bring the same back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 And your club went through a very similar process and were not punished at all, so it is any wonder you pander to the soft option. Why not just buy a season ticket for Sevco if you are so concerned for them. *** without the bus fare type banter Ric? You're better than that. FWIW I'd rather have a club to support than not. I'm not convinced that motherwell will survive this season. Hopefully we will and if it's with a crippled rangers in sfl3 then all the better but the kind of initiatives that they are asking for on stoolmen and twitter atm clearly shows the club are very concerned. I don't like that we are all so reliant on the OF but those are the facts of the we live in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 oh yes and The popular peoples front ------SPLITTERS!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Oldfirmfacts @Oldfirmfacts1In Division 3, RFC will be named Sporting Integrity FC. They will be sponsored by Unicef and their badge will show Gandhi stroking a dove. Retweeted by Rachel LynchExpand Reply Retweet Favorite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Northerner Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Another quote after yesterday's meeting was "This is what the supporters wanted". In other words, "It's all your fault". I half expected him to look into the camera and start shaking his fist when he said that. "we'd ha' got away with it, if it wasn't for those pesky fans" Scooooby-Dooooooby-Doooo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiepiemuncher Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 If thats the list of enemies, i'd love to see the list of friends. Donald Findlay John "Bomber" Brown er.... anymore? Michael Johnston. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_j Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I assume we are all inundating SFA with emails after Regans drunken ramblings? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 The only issue with this point is that it is the same argument as that used by Rangers fans over the financial mismanagement. It wisnae the club, it wis the Chairman, don't punish us. If he was speaking on behalf of the club, there is an issue. If he wasn't, Killie fans and shareholders should be calling for his head. I was midway through writing a very similar post but then it dawned on me that the mismanagement at Rangers had been going on for years with various people involved rather than MJ just making a tit of himself over the last few weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 It should never, ever be necessary to passport a new team into one of the top leagues for money. If so then the competition itself deserves to go tits up IMO. Other leagues can do as they wish with newcos, the second the senior Scottish league gives a new team a leg up for a few quid is the day I stop spending money watching Scottish football. http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/EuroExperience/uefaorg/WhatUEFAis/01/80/54/03/1805403_DOWNLOAD.pdf e 2 Member Associations shall manage their affairs independently and with no influence from third parties. Member Associations shall provide in their statutes for a procedure guaranteeing that their executive body is freely elected and that their other bodies are elected or appointed in a completely independent way. Any body or decision from a body that has not been elected or appointed in compliance with such a procedure, even on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kildog Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 *** without the bus fare type banter Ric? You're better than that. FWIW I'd rather have a club to support than not. I'm not convinced that motherwell will survive this season. Hopefully we will and if it's with a crippled rangers in sfl3 then all the better but the kind of initiatives that they are asking for on stoolmen and twitter atm clearly shows the club are very concerned. I don't like that we are all so reliant on the OF but those are the facts of the we live in. That's just it. We all dream of a better world. Come and join us madwullie. Don't be afraid, we can all get through this together. Cast off your shackles, no more suckling at the teat of the Old Firm. Your Stockholm syndrome is worrying, but we;re here to help. There is life without Rangers, there really is... Believe madwullie, BELIEVE! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I know I asked this a few pages back, but when do player registrations need to be submitted by... or will they just submit the likes of "Player 12" like the SPL did?! You can register players up to the end of the transfer window. However, what impact the number of registered players will have on their SFA application, I dont know. If they are applying for a transfer, then probably none. Im hoping at some point, later in the day, I will have recovered enough from the shock of reading Regans statement to actually bring myself to read through it again and comment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John..You're Immortal Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) Why am i only 12th? Expected to be bit higher up the pecking order in all honesty. Nah Craigy Boy, you were too overt in your plans. The people above you were much more Macheavellian ~ A bit like the Grassy Knoll gunmen to your Lee Harvey Oswald. Edited July 5, 2012 by John..You're Immortal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofixedability Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 What camp do turkeys fall into? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 No I understand that semantic argument well. I did not say I was OK with it, I stated that it may be a necessary evil. What has happened to newcos in other leagues? Have they had to start again from the bottom every time? A few others have already responded to your earlier post, here's my take for what it's worth. Some people have tried to degrade the term 'sporting integrity'. I admit it has been overused but it is still the kernel of this matter. We either support a sport that punishes misdeeds regardless of who the guilty party are OR we say the punishment will be reduced because of who has carried out the actions. If we go for the second option I don't want to be a part of that sport because it is basically corrupt. The idea that we treat this new applicant to the SFL differently because they are the husk of the old Rangers is not acceptable to me. If any other team, including my own, was liquidated and refused entry to the SPL it would be right that they start at the bottom tier of the SFL and compete with other applicants for any place that became available. that is all that I am asking for the newco Rangers. It is not driven by hatred but by a desire for fair play; in fact more than a desire, an essential requirement. I think you used the term emotive, yes football is an emotive subject. It is a passionate one, take the passion out of football and there is little left. I feel passionately that rules cannot be twisted out of all proportion to satisfy the supposed needs of one group of supporters. I could go on but I don't want what I regard as a valid opinion turning into a rant. I do not think you and i will ever see eye-to-eye on this matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I have to say that SSB show from last night, is worthy of a Perrier award at the Edinburgh Fringe! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuoAnLai Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 While clarifying his (bizarre) comments about social unrest, Regan says... ""That matter will be considered next week by the Scottish Football League and, hopefully, there'll be an outcome whereby Rangers will be accepted into Division One of the SFL; which would allow some financial stability for clubs in the country." Surely if the SFL clubs ignore his advice and his stance it amounts to a vote of no confidence. How could he credibly continue in his role if the majority of clubs demonstrate that they don't trust him. Will he walk, or will he need pushing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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