dee eff cee Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Talking to an RFC IA fan I've known for a long time today who was a Club Deck debenture holder since it was built. He's mightly ****ed off that he Sevco does not appear to recognise his "investment" in the club for the right to buy his seat. He won't be back. How many others will be like him? Any hint on how bad ST sales are at Ibrokes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leepylee Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Best I could do: Ahh yessss well done. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leepylee Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I was saying to a guy at 5s that "i assume the SFA is closed at the weekend and sevco will need their license by close of business tomorrow, is this true? Nah, I seem to recall meetings and fone calls of various people involved taking place on saturdays. Well in as far as NBC website reported the story in a Saturday evening saying so and do told so and so such and such this afternoon ie SATURDAY. I was very surprised about it myself but there u go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cyderspaceman Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Nah, I seem to recall meetings and fone calls of various people involved taking place on saturdays. Well in as far as NBC website reported the story in a Saturday evening saying so and do told so and so such and such this afternoon ie SATURDAY. I was very surprised about it myself but there u go. I would have thought Saturday was a big working day for fitba' folk. Too busy too bother with minor stuff tho'. Back burner til Monday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee eff cee Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Anyone for a Choc Ice? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 http://store.steampo. ..com/app/102600/ Does the hero doing the killing have a name? Or is he just 'you'? Boaby Soutar - Orc Killer! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killingfloorman Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 HAHAHAHAHAHAH Senegal. That is all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie guevara Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Talking to an RFC IA fan I've known for a long time today who was a Club Deck debenture holder since it was built. He's mightly ****ed off that he Sevco does not appear to recognise his "investment" in the club for the right to buy his seat. He won't be back. How many others will be like him? Any hint on how bad ST sales are at Ibrokes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) This man gets it - By Ewing Grahame Rangers go the wire haggling over SFA membership Charles Green's stand-off with the Scottish Football Association will be taken right to the wire on Friday as they haggle over the terms and conditions which will be attached to their membership of the ruling body. http://www.telegraph...membership.html It's understood that Green's Sevco Scotland Ltd have deigned to accept a 12-month signing embargo from Sept 1 and a fine of £160,000 from the SFA but are still unwilling to "accept" any future punishments from the Scottish Premier League over Rangers' alleged use of dual contracts. Should Rangers be found guilty of improperly registering employees for over a decade, the fear - as expressed by manager Ally McCoist - is that Rangers will be punished by having all trophies and cups won during that period stripped from them. One might argue that such an outcome would not, indeed, be a punishment at all but merely the automatic result of having found to have cheated opponents during the period in question by fielding players they would not otherwise have been able to afford. The real punishment would follow. Take, for example, the case of disgraced sprinter Ben Johnson. He set a new world record of 9.79 seconds in winning the 100m at the Seoul Olympics in 1988. However, the urine sample supplied by the Canadian afterwards contained traces of the steroid stanozolol. Johnson, whose coach, Charles Francis, admitted that the athlete had been using performance-enhancing drugs since 1981, was stripped of his gold medal. That, though, was a consequence of having cheated: the penalty handed down to Johnson by the International Amateur Athletics Federation was a two-year ban from all competition. Green, like McCoist, does not wish to be similarly inconvenienced for any wrong-doing on the behalf of his predecessors. The SPL, for their part, wish to be able to deliver a sanction in keeping with the seriousness of the charges which have been brought and their lawyers, Harper McLeod, have already stated that there is a "prima facie" case for Rangers/Sevco to answer. It is now 14 days since Sevco was allowed to join the Scottish Football League in the Third Division. The deadline for being granted the SFA membership which will allow them to play competitively this season expires at close of business on Friday. Green, it might be argued, is merely doing what any chief executive would do in comparable circumstances: ie, negotiate the best deal for his company. The problem for him is that the oldco whose membership he wishes to be transferred and whose history he is anxious to assume, have already been found guilty of many serious transgressions, from wilfully refusing to pay their taxes to leaving a trail of football debt across Europe. On top of that, there are the verdicts pending in the dual registrations cases as well as the Top Tier Tax Tribunal's investigation of the alleged misuse of Employee Benefit Trusts. These issues, while linked, are not interchangeable and there is no reason why the SPL would need to wait for the HMRC findings before announcing their own. Given that, the only bargaining chip Green has at his disposal is the potential size of Rangers newco's support and their appeal to broadcasters. Even so, he will feel that he is right to take this particular Mexican stand-off right to the wire. He will remember, after all, how Stewart Regan and Neil Doncaster, the chief executives of the SFA and SPL respectively, attempted to catapult Sevco Scotland Ltd into the First Division ahead of 20 other SFL clubs, only to have their scheme categorically rejected by the SFL members. Consequently, it would be surprising if that embarrassing episode was not at the back of his mind during this Mexican stand-off. Green will see himself as Clint Eastwood to Regan and Doncaster's Eli Wallach and Lee Van Cleef as the rest of Scottish football waits to see who will blink first. The reputation of the national game has been tarnished by the events of the last five months at Ibrox and by the response to them from those in power at Hampden. There has been little credit to share between the participants: not so much the good, the bad and the ugly as unforgiven. Prevarication has been the order of the day for the two ruling bodies and that unwillingness (or inability) to take control of the situation has made bad worse. It is unfair on Brechin City, a club which needs money almost as badly as Sevco and one which has spent a significant (for them) sum on printing and distributing tickets and match programmes and selling corporate hospitality for their Alba Cup tie against Sevco, which may yet be cancelled less than 48 hours before kick-off time. It is unfair on Dundee, who have still to receive their SPL membership from the Soon-to-liquidated Rangers oldco and who may, as a result, have to postpone the beginning of their league campaign. It is unfair on Kilmarnock, who are due to host Dundee on Aug 4, because any switch to a midweek fixture would mean a smaller crowd and reduced revenue. It is also unfair on Ian Black and Craig Beattie, players Sevco hope to sign on lucrative contracts and on whose behalf a press conference will be called on Friday, assuming membership is granted. Most of all, it is unfair on the supporters throughout the country who will wonder - but surely not for long - whether their club would have been dealt with in such a fawning fashion if they had found themselves in a similar bind. to Ewing Grahame Edited July 26, 2012 by Itwiznaeme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Looked at OM since things were quiet. Is 'clockwork' one of ours? His tea is oot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) The last article that i can find with Roddy Forsyth's name at the top is this one: http://www.telegraph...eltic-fans.html and, The last article that i can find with Ewing Grahame's name at the top is this one in The Sun today!: http://www.thescotti...Kayal-move.html That Telegraph piece now has Grahame's name to it. Wish I had copied it earlier 'cos it looks different now and it's causing shrieking in Orcland. Anyone else think it's changed? eta this..........".Too many ***** journo,s in this country, where are the Rangers journalists" No fkn intelligence at all. Edited July 26, 2012 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Rangers now removed from the SFL website all together. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killingfloorman Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 This man gets it - By Ewing Grahame Rangers go the wire haggling over SFA membership Charles Green's stand-off with the Scottish Football Association will be taken right to the wire on Friday as they haggle over the terms and conditions which will be attached to their membership of the ruling body. http://www.telegraph...membership.html [/size] to Ewing Grahame [/font] [/font][/color] That article absolutely reeks of an 'off the record briefing' by one of the negotiating sides (and I bet it wasn't Sevco ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozam76 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) This man gets it - By Ewing Grahame Rangers go the wire haggling over SFA membership Charles Green's stand-off with the Scottish Football Association will be taken right to the wire on Friday as they haggle over the terms and conditions which will be attached to their membership of the ruling body. http://www.telegraph...membership.html [/size] to Ewing Grahame [/font] [/font][/color] A fantastic piece. As killingfloorman said, it's got whiffs of a party political broadcast on behalf of the Scottish Football Authorities (having taken their brave pills of course). Ewing Grahame hasn't always seen the light though - I can't remember exactly when it was, but up until a certain point he seemed to be as much a Bluenose apologist as anything else. Think it might have been the SPL vote on July 4th, although I'm not certain. Edited July 26, 2012 by mozam76 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Aye but it's a paper mostly read in England I believe. The b*****ds are infesting their brians now Blessed, Rix, Cosgrove? Feckin' hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny van Axeldongen Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Rangers now removed from the SFL website all together. Maybe blank is going to be their new name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 And on here... http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/football/challenge-cup/fixtures/ 15:05Brechin CityvGlebe Park Win 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee eff cee Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Maybe blank is going to be their new name. Also known as . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 (edited) Rangers now removed from the SFL website all together. Now THIS could be a sign that the SFL have had enough of Rangers/Sevco1588's brinkmanship & are about to let them know those who are in no position to negotiate do not dictate terms. PS. Anyone else think it is a wee bit more than a coincidence that 1588 was chosen of all the numbers they could have picked, 1588 being the year of the so-called "Protestant Wind"? Could have been an injoke amongst Charlie boys mates that their business plan to save the buns was all going to be nothing but hot air! Edited July 26, 2012 by WaffenThinMint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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