stonedsailor Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Craig Whyte killed Rangers for nothing? Fuckin dancer. As long as the name Rangers is attached to a Glasgow club then there will be Craig Whytes to exploit their dumbass fans. I am sorry though. I am sorry for their fans because they will never learn and they will go through it all again with their new club, only this time with added seethe. One other thing... You'er no Rangers any more, you're no Rangers any more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Many merry mirthment over the bears today! Great! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I have read online that Stephen Thompson is one of the 'targets' of The Rangers fans. I fully endorse that position. I am starting a campaign to ensure there is a permanent boycott of Tannadice by all The Rangers fans. Please support this campaign. On personal experience Thompson is a tosser. But I do love the froth he stirs up among the bears. Lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somecallmetim Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 This is good news is it not? Coupled with the supposed £24m payout it means that some of the local people and businesses that lost out might get some of their money back. Rangers are still dead, newco are still on dangerous ground financially and the real victims (the people Rangers left in the lurch) may get something back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Good piece at Scotzine. http://www.scotzine.com/2014/07/are-rangers-and-their-fans-really-the-victims-innocent-party/ You have to admire the chutzpah to spin this as a victory for newco rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) One thing I do find interesting is Youngsy's talk of Whyte 'fooling' the old rangers fans, how exactly did he go about this 'fooling', it must have been a massive project to fool tens of thousands into giving him a rapturous hero's welcome and more? Did he really fool the rangers fans or is blind subservience just an intrinsic part of their DNA? Edited July 10, 2014 by AberdeenBud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 One thing I do find interesting is Youngsy's talk of Whyte 'fooling' the old rangers fans, how exactly did he go about this 'fooling', it must have bee a massive project to fool tens of thousands into giving him a rapturous hero's welcome and more? Did he really fool the rangers fans or is blind subservience just an intrinsic part of their DNA? You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can only fool all of ra peepul all of the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 But..But..he lost a lot of money And a football club. Bless, no wonder he's upset. I do hope Magoo takes youngsy's recent trauma into account when he righteously lambasts him for wishing serious harm on someone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 This is good news is it not? Coupled with the supposed £24m payout it means that some of the local people and businesses that lost out might get some of their money back. Rangers are still dead, newco are still on dangerous ground financially and the real victims (the people Rangers left in the lurch) may get something back. Indeed it is. First and Upper tribunals find fault in their "legal" operations, the SPL find them so innocent they fined the old club 1/4 milion quid, and maybe some of the innocent creditors get some of their cash back. So, as someone memorably said, "rangers cheated. Then they died". Now we even have Minty's endorsement to add to a slew of ex-players, Sir Cardigan, and a few honest members of the media. And Jabba. Oh, and the berrz on here trying to hide the hurt? Just a delicious wee bonus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 One thing I do find interesting is Youngsy's talk of Whyte 'fooling' the old rangers fans, how exactly did he go about this 'fooling', it must have been a massive project to fool tens of thousands into giving him a rapturous hero's welcome and more? Did he really fool the rangers fans or is blind subservience just an intrinsic part of their DNA? Either a massive project, or a few puff-pieces in the moron's paper of choice. Well done, The Record. Not a phrase I ever thought I'd type. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Spiers on Sport: an endless blame-game over the demise of Rangers Spiers on Sport Graham Spiers Thursday 10 July 2014 There is a wearyingly familiar outrage doing the rounds at Rangers after the UTT ruling which upheld the club's appeal against HMRC over its controversial use of EBTs. This was an important judgement because it ruled that, despite the distaste many have for EBTs and their perceived manipulation for tax-avoidance, Rangers nonetheless had stayed on the right side of the law. What the ruling shouldn't do - and I know this only too well - is forbid anyone among us from decrying the use of EBTs, at Rangers or anywhere else, as a crude means of abusing the law and, in effect, avoiding paying tax. Not for nothing were EBTs, when used in this way, widely referred to as "a tax loophole". Everybody and their granny came to know what was going on. My own view on EBTs hasn't changed. There have been different outcomes at various HMRC pursuits -such as at Aberdeen Asset Management and at the pre-2012 Rangers FC - but I viewed EBTs, when used as a vehicle for disguised remuneration, as a form of cheating. Evidently the British government felt likewise: they decided to put an end to the racket in 2010/11. At that point Rangers were force to write letters to various players saying they would no longer be able to compensate them in this manner. The tragedy that engulfed Rangers, springing from Sir David Murray's policies, to the wretched arrival of Craig Whyte, to HMRC's rejection of the CVA in the summer of 2012, has now spawned an industry of blame and witchhunt-calling. Some Rangers supporters remain upset - rightly - but phlegmatic about it all. Others, though, seek blame everywhere - at HMRC, at the SFA, at the (former) SPL, the media, at the BBC - everywhere except at the former Rangers itself. The truth of the matter is that the now dissolved Rangers FC plc was done-in by the very people who were charged with safe-guarding the club. Murray, Whyte and many of the old club's directors bore a very heavy responsibility. In June 2012 it was also HMRC who, at the crucial CVA vote, drove the stake through the Ibrox heart. A combination of accrued, unpaid debts by Rangers to the tax authorities totalling £21 million - it excluded any projected EBT bills - meant that HMRC in effect dealt the fatal blow. This was no witch-hunt. HMRC had the mere temerity of wanting its taxes paid. On the contrary, this was dire recklessness by those charged with safe-guarding Rangers. This was self-destruction. When I look back now to April, 2012, the words of Paul Murray, a former director of the club who tried to beat Charles Green to the rescue act, seem particularly honest. Murray and I crossed swords on a number of occasions over the Rangers saga but he always struck me as honest and conscientious in wanting to resolve a dire situation. Just weeks prior to the Rangers CVA being rejected, Paul Murray said: "In my view we have got to try to save the club. The CVA is the only thing that the Rangers supporters want. Speaking as a supporter, I do not want a situation where the club's history - the timeline - is broken. We are trying to save this club. "I am very clear: the club has had a number of misdemeanours over the years, and these have to be faced up to. The club has to be punished: I am 100% in agreement on that. We have done things wrong. But any penalties we face must be fair and they must be transparent." These days you very rarely hear such openness and clarity about the Rangers case from a Rangers principal. On the contrary, cyber lynch-mobs set after you if you dare to address the Rangers collapse as Murray did in these words. All this said, yes, there is absolutely redress that needs to be secured over the Rangers collapse. BDO, the liquidators, should ruthlessly investigate alleged fraud around the club over this period. So should the police who, to the best of my knowledge, still have an open book on the case. Pursuit of criminality in the destruction of the former Rangers should be relentless. But at some point, the re-writing of history will have to stop. No vendettas did for Rangers FC in 2012. On the contrary, this was a spectacular and tragic self-immolation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbungo1874 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Muirhead, Britney crawling out of every crevice, all we need now the BTC blogger to release a 'this is not a victory, this is not the end' type rant, or will he just run away again? I personal think it's fantastic that Rangers have won all these victorys 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Shame you're fked on both then eh.. no sure my life has not sunk to being so low that i am in my 30's staying with my maw , posting football manager videos up of myself whilst wearing my favourite st mirren trackie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I don't remember Whyte launching an IPO .. he simply took over a debt ridden club that no Ranjurs man would step in to save despite Murray trying to offload it for years .. and Murray was trying to sell it before his infamous "50 million share issue" ... Whyte ... the cause .. keep peddling the myths .... he was simply the patsy. “The decision substantially reduces HMRC’s claim in the liquidation of the old Rangers Football Club." © Sir David Murray. Whyte committed the crime of fraud on a very large scale, that is the current issue at the moment, don't try and deflect what this is about. We are all aware as regards Murray but this isn't about him, it's about Whyte, Withey and the, as yet unconfirmed, news that Collyer Bristow have settled to the sum of £24 million because of Whytes dealings. That is the issue here, the fact that his actions have resulted in thousands of people being the victims of large scale fraud. No need to go over old ground that has been covered many times before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofjays Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 no sure my life has not sunk to being so low that i am in my 30's staying with my maw , posting football manager videos up of myself whilst wearing my favourite st mirren trackie. If this is true you'd have to be a much sadder person to go find all this stuff out, or to think it relevant in this thread. Pathetic stalker behaviour. Get a grip of yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Muirhead, Britney crawling out of every crevice, all we need now the BTC blogger to release a 'this is not a victory, this is not the end' type rant, or will he just run away again? These bloggers eh? If it had not been for them meddling, reporting from unfinished court cases and tax investigations... maybe Rangers would have survived. SDM would not have been forced to sell you all down the river for a paultry £1 coin. CW may never have had to miss tax payments and liquidate the club. Who do you think is laughing louder after yesterday's news? The bloggers killed your club. Deal with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Whyte committed the crime of fraud on a very large scale, that is the current issue at the moment, don't try and deflect what this is about. We are all aware as regards Murray but this isn't about him, it's about Whyte, Withey and the, as yet unconfirmed, news that Collyer Bristow have settled to the sum of £24 million because of Whytes dealings. That is the issue here, the fact that his actions have resulted in thousands of people being the victims of large scale fraud. No need to go over old ground that has been covered many times before. Innocent until proven guilty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Youngsy Another one that has been absolutely broken by the events of the past few years. Why would i be broken? Angry perhaps but certainly not broken, this is a football club we are referring to, nothing else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsy Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Innocent until proven guilty. Uh-huh, and here's hoping that his guilt is proven sooner rather than later and he gets a very substantial jail sentence,. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookies Love Me Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Now that the berrz are in full GIRFUY mode, and looking for "enemies" at every turn. Can the spivs not use this moment for a season ticket drive, and roll out mccoist with the "Ah telt yeez all alang we was hard done tae" routine? I can see the spivs sitting rubbing their hands with expectation for the mad rush of "loyal" supporters willing to part with their bevvy money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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