MikeyWellFan Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 "All you fannies who sing about terrorists and long forgotten wars can do one, we want f**k all to do with this Cafflik and Proddie pish. Get it stopped or do one." Signed the big bosses of the Old Firm. Don't remember that. Tacit approval in my books. That would have lost them considerable support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookies Love Me Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 "All you fannies who sing about terrorists and long forgotten wars can do one, we want f**k all to do with this Cafflik and Proddie pish. Get it stopped or do one." Signed the big bosses of the Old Firm. Don't remember that. Tacit approval in my books. Can we still sing about William Wallace and Bannockburn? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 ah looks like a 3rd day of debating on the religous history of western scotland is brewing up on the cards here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magoo9uk Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Sorry, Dhen, but I'm hearing a wee bit of defensiveness from you here - and it is, imho, justified. Had either club (or any of the three) wanted to eradicate this part of their support, or had the "majority of decent fans" (© both sides) stood up to this shite, they could get rid. Burke had it right - The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Once again the WKR has the temerity to hold forth on decency.Priceless. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyWellFan Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 ah looks like a 3rd day of debating on the religous history of western scotland is brewing up on the cards here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofjays Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Can we still sing about William Wallace and Bannockburn? Go right ahead, although now you mention it I've never heard anyone sing about either (unless you count Flower of Scotland but it never mentions Bannockburn by name). Would maybe make a nice change. Edited July 30, 2014 by aofjays 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Was not Burke in the Positive Irrationalist School and therefore he means the opposite? A positive irrational is a number. An irrationalist does not necessarily oppose reason but promotes an awareness that the rational aspect of things needs to be balanced by intuition. In short, you could not be more wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Was not Burke in the Positive Irrationalist School and therefore he means the opposite? There's no actual record of him saying that precise quote, to be honest, but John Stuart Mill expressed a similar view. As with many "quotes" which have passed into common usage, the perception of the reader is the thing. As Stoney says above, Irrationalism is not a blinkered and rigid view, but rather an acknowledgement that there must be balance between logic and intuitive reasoning in order to achieve understanding. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 There's no actual record of him saying that precise quote, to be honest, but John Stuart Mill expressed a similar view. As with many "quotes" which have passed into common usage, the perception of the reader is the thing. As Stoney says above, Irrationalism is not a blinkered and rigid view, but rather an acknowledgement that there must be balance between logic and intuitive reasoning in order to achieve understanding. Don't overload him with information. Baby steps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) There's no actual record of him saying that precise quote, to be honest, but John Stuart Mill expressed a similar view. As with many "quotes" which have passed into common usage, the perception of the reader is the thing. As Stoney says above, Irrationalism is not a blinkered and rigid view, but rather an acknowledgement that there must be balance between logic and intuitive reasoning in order to achieve understanding. Immanuel Kant was a real pissantWho was very rarely stable Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar Who could think you under the table David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel And Wittgenstein was a beery swine Who was just as sloshed as Schlegel There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya 'Bout the raising of the wrist Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed John Stuart Mill, of his own free will On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill Plato, they say, could stick it away Half a crate of whiskey every day Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle Hobbes was fond of his dram And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart "I drink, therefore I am" Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed A lovely little thinker But a bugger when he's pissed! Edited July 30, 2014 by Florentine_Pogen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Can we still sing about William Wallace and Bannockburn? One man's terrorist is the next man's freedom fighter. 'Twas always thus - the Mandela effect, if you like. Or Washington, or Bolivar, Lynch or Castro...you can even go for Boudicca, if you like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 One man's terrorist is the next man's freedom fighter. 'Twas always thus - the Mandela effect, if you like. Or Washington, or Bolivar, Lynch or Castro...you can even go for Boudicca, if you like. One forum's cheeky chappie, grumpy, baldy, multi-persona, likable rogue is another forum's racist, scum animal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Yes, so he uses the deductive method, and makes stupid hypothesis so as only to demonstrate they are true if cannot be shot down. "Stupid"? A pre-emptive value judgement based on prejudice, right there. For a hypothesis to be proved wrong does not imply that the thinking used to arrive at it was flawed, merely that the relevant information it was founded on may have been incomplete, or that external factors may have been missed. The result is as likely to prove the theory as to disprove it. Plus, the plural is "hypotheses". Where you get the construction "so as only to demonstrate", God** alone knows. *If he/she/it exists - perhaps a topic for next week's class. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 One forum's cheeky chappie, grumpy, baldy, multi-persona, likable rogue is another forum's racist, scum animal. You been stalking me? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 One man's terrorist is the next man's freedom fighter. 'Twas always thus - the Mandela effect, if you like. Or Washington, or Bolivar, Lynch or Castro...you can even go for Boudicca, if you like. fs wrk, you could have sent that sentance to your pals at the green brigade. would have made more sense than this mess 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 You been stalking me? No mate. Are you a cheeky chappy likable rogue on other forums ? I was alluding to one of the P&B RSC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 One man's terrorist is the next man's freedom fighter. 'Twas always thus - the Mandela effect, if you like. Or Washington, or Bolivar, Lynch or Castro...you can even go for Boudicca, if you like. Goyathlay (Geronimo) is my favourite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 fs wrk, you could have sent that sentance to your pals at the green brigade. would have made more sense than this mess There's not a lot that anyone trying to defend either cheeks' "traditions" comes up with that makes any sense, in all honesty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Yes, so he uses the deductive method, and makes stupid hypothesis so as only to demonstrate they are true if cannot be shot down. Graduated 1991 sir Not sure that would give you the right to refer to the likes of Burke as "stupid", in all fairness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Didn't realise that Div had joined up with the Open University to offer online seminars on Sectarian Semantics in a Socially Deprived Football Context . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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