Monkey Tennis Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Do you honestly believe that communities in Scotland are split by sectarian divides? The vast majority of people separate the game of fitba from everyday life and mix and marry quite freely. Oh ffs Bennett! Yes, of course I know that most people mix and marry freely. My own immediate personal experience over two or three generations tells me this. I do know however, that bigotry exists to a significant degree in Scotland. I think the big clubs both reflect and help sustain it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The scale of the issue is well overrated imo Monks, it just doesn't affect most peoples day to day lives and i believe i asked you if you thought that Scottish communities were split by sectarian divides. In the real world it is not an issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofjays Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Is there much of a sectarian issue in Liverpool anymore? Seems to have died down to almost nothing in the last hundred years. Strange that that hasn't happened here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The scale of the issue is well overrated imo Monks, it just doesn't affect most peoples day to day lives and i believe i asked you if you thought that Scottish communities were split by sectarian divides. In the real world it is not an issue. You're probably largely right, but I'd say you're perhaps understating it a bit. I don't honestly believe that official discrimination happens along such lines any more (except perhaps where Catholic schools' employment practices are concerned) but I do think the 'hobby' version of sectarianism as evident in Orange Walks etc is decidedly and deliberately unpleasant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Is there much of a sectarian issue in Liverpool anymore? Seems to have died down to almost nothing in the last hundred years. Strange that that hasn't happened here. Careful. Ted will post pictures of some Scouse intolerance here. He keeps the clip handy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I understand all of it thanks. I also understand entirely which constituencies the use here of such imagery is designed to appeal to, as well as why it does. This is just like arguing with British Patriot. Bloody Hell, MT - that's a bit strong! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Would have been simpler if you had simply corrected him, but no, having a dig at me is preferable to the truth eh. The truth is that such events are far less frequent than in the part of Scotland you wisely left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Would have been simpler if you had simply corrected him, but no, having a dig at me is preferable to the truth eh. Would have been simpler to read the thread, thereby avoiding adding fuel to the "Dumfries Clairvoyant" rumour. Anyhoo, "fùck me, Tedi's done it again" thread for this pish... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Mikey helped you out there .. you didn't supply it. Taking credit for other people's efforts now .... sheeesh. No shame MT. Did you copy from the kid next to you at school? Oh, I could have provided some instances of my own, but does that matter? As for copying at school, nah, I saw little point. I was surrounded by Celtic fans after all. And besides, it would have fair set Brother Walfrid birling in his resting place outside the window. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Fire away ,,, I'm still waiting for your own work. How about Dr Jon Reid's AGM comments in the wake of the deplorable antics of his club in inciting a dispute with referees? "Read the history books". "We will not be treated less than anyone else - those days are gone". A naked attempt to stoke sectarian tensions, by feeding the paranoia for which those fond of his cub are famous. It could almost be mad Phil greeting about the back of the bus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Somers will be gone in a few months................................ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Jul 30, 2014 06:53 By Keith Jackson SOMERS insisted no "sale or leaseback" deals had been discussed following a statement from supporters' coalition group the Union of Fans. RANGERS chairman David Somers last night hit back at his club’s own fans by insisting categorically he has no plans to sanction the sale of Murray Park. Somers contacted Record Sport following a statement from supporters’ coalition group the Union of Fans which accused the under-fire regime of plotting to raise emergency cash by flogging off the club’s prized assets , including the training facility at Auchenhowie. And, while declining to be interviewed on the matter, Somers made the board’s position clear in writing and insisted that no “sale and leaseback” deals have been discussed. He said: “There is a great deal of nonsense being written about possible sales of Rangers assets. “The board has never discussed the sale and/or leaseback of any Rangers asset. Nor do I expect us to do so. “Our mindset is to protect and enhance all the assets of the club for the benefit of future generations of fans and shareholders alike. “The above applies to every one of our assets. “I hope my email makes it clear my mindset is not to sell a single one of our assets, especially our Crown Jewels.” Plans and mindsets can change when nothing binding is in place to preserve them. Edited July 30, 2014 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Is there much of a sectarian issue in Liverpool anymore? Seems to have died down to almost nothing in the last hundred years. Strange that that hasn't happened here.You don't have much knowledge of Liverpool and Liverpudlians do you? The average white CoE faithed Liverpudlian is amongst the most backward thinking in the western world.They are quite equal in their prejudices though, anyone different to them gets equally bad treatment. ETA my sources for my opinions are a black catholic former crewmate from Toxteth and family in Huyton. Edited July 30, 2014 by stonedsailor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Is there much of a sectarian issue in Liverpool anymore? Seems to have died down to almost nothing in the last hundred years. Strange that that hasn't happened here. Just those Proddy hating Boswells. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Plans and mindsets can change when nothing binding is in place to preserve them. Jul 30, 2014 06:53 By Keith Jackson SOMERS insisted no "sale or leaseback" deals had been discussed following a statement from supporters' coalition group the Union of Fans. RANGERS chairman David Somers last night hit back at his club’s own fans by insisting categorically he has no plans to sanction the sale of Murray Park. Somers contacted Record Sport following a statement from supporters’ coalition group the Union of Fans which accused the under-fire regime of plotting to raise emergency cash by flogging off the club’s prized assets , including the training facility at Auchenhowie. And, while declining to be interviewed on the matter, Somers made the board’s position clear in writing and insisted that no “sale and leaseback” deals have been discussed. He said: “There is a great deal of nonsense being written about possible sales of Rangers assets. “The board has never discussed the sale and/or leaseback of any Rangers asset. Nor do I expect us to do so. “Our mindset is to protect and enhance all the assets of the club for the benefit of future generations of fans and shareholders alike. “The above applies to every one of our assets. “I hope my email makes it clear my mindset is not to sell a single one of our assets, especially our Crown Jewels.” The endgame is near. The board are keeping the current assets in a nice, neat bundle, ready for the next saviour to step in and buy as a package. Club-plus-Ibrox-plus-MP is much more attractive than a simple 'team with a pitch'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Referee caught lying .. we incited a dispute. Classy. Referee makes correct decision, yet struggling big club bullies its way to causing a fuss and implying it's standing up for allegedly downtrodden Catholics everywhere by doing so. Admittedly, Dr Reid will have bigger things on his mind should he meet his maker, but you're right. The entire episode demonstrated Celtic' s lack of class. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Referee makes correct decision, yet struggling big club bullies its way to causing a fuss and implying it's standing up for allegedly downtrodden Catholics everywhere by doing so. Admittedly, Dr Reid will have bigger things on his mind should he meet his maker, but you're right. The entire episode demonstrated Celtic' s lack of class. It was peter houston who said the ref was a cheat and not for the first time he was out to get Dundee United. Amazing how people always forget this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 It was peter houston who said the ref was a cheat and not for the first time he was out to get Dundee United. Amazing how people always forget this I've already been on the Falkirk thread telling them all that their beloved "Houstie" is a w**k. I can't be everywhere at once. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Dearie me ... Yes, he made an arse of explaining the process by which he reached the correct decision regarding the award of a penalty, but he got the decision right. The uncertainty was exploited by Celtic because the decision had ultimately, correctly, not gone their way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyWellFan Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Why haven't bigots attached themselves to Liverpool and Everton like they have with Rangers and Celtic? Why do you never hear The Sash and Boys of the old brigade during Merseyside derbies? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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