strichener Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 So who's liable for the outstanding paye and ni contributions? Is it the old rangers or the recipient's? Old Rangers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Of course they don't but they were pretty chuffed when they won the original case (or at least found to have done nothing wrong). Can't have it both ways. Oh wait, they can - 'cos they arra pee-pelllllll. Aye, thats when they started telling us how they are the victims 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Heid Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Lol HMRC win , Rangers were cheating b*****ds. Time for Rangers fans to start denouncing this judgement after spending the last 3 years defending them. Its still 2 judgements to 1 in favour of Rangers over HMRC. HMRC pursued a case they could never win other than in principal and at what expense to the Tax Payers? The defendants in this case don't exist HMRC saw them liquidated by turning down the CVA That decision resulted in many people losing any chance of some return on the money they were due and in the process HMRC have spent thousands if not millions in legal fees to pursue justification over any hope of recovery. HMRC stood back for years and happily allowed Rangers and other clubs to use EBTs - these were shown in club accounts which HMRC had access to. So if anything this judgement only show how incompetent HMRC really are. Edited November 4, 2015 by Auld Heid -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 it must suck to hurt that much auld heid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 All the EBT ruling amounts to is confirmation that the old club were cheating in the run-up to liquidation, while it will add an astronomical amount to sum BDO are trying to recover and never will in full. It's nice to have that legally confirmed for a bit of a GIRUY, but really we all knew it anyway. The accounts are still the most important story today. Where does the £2.5 million come from, that's the big question. Can Park, Letham and Taylor stump up that sum? On the fact of it there's no reason to believe they can't or wouldn't, but will they be unsure about getting it back in the face of the criminal cases against Whyte, Green et al? Purely speculation here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Its still 2 judgements to 1 in favour of Rangers over HMRC. HMRC pursued a case they could never win other than in principal and at what expense to the Tax Payers? The defendants in this case don't exist HMRC saw them liquidated by turning down the CVA That decision resulted in many people losing any chance of some return on the money they were due and in the process HMRC have spent thousands if not million in legal fees to pursue justification over any hope of recovery. HMRC stood back for a number of years and happily allowed Rangers and other clubs to use EBTs - these were all shown in club accounts which HMRC had access to. So if anything this judgement only show how incompetent HMRC really are. It aint a football match with a running score. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Its still 2 judgements to 1 in favour of Rangers over HMRC. That really isn't how it works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Njord Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment?id=8213f5a6-8980-69d2-b500-ff0000d74aa7 Full judgement here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aofjays Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Its still 2 judgements to 1 in favour of Rangers over HMRC. HMRC pursued a case they could never win other than in principal and at what expense to the Tax Payers? The defendants in this case don't exist HMRC saw them liquidated by turning down the CVA That decision resulted in many people losing any chance of some return on the money they were due and in the process HMRC have spent thousands if not million in legal fees to pursue justification over any hope of recovery. HMRC stood back for a number of years and happily allowed Rangers and other clubs to use EBTs - these were all shown in club accounts which HMRC had access to. So if anything this judgement only show how incompetent HMRC really are. That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 So what will happen if the criminal case against Charlie and Whyte results in the sale of the clumpany being undone? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Heid Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 That really isn't how it works. Yes I do know that - my first point was always a jovial one - showing that the process was never a open and shut case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Rangers 2-1 up on judgements! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YER SISTERS YER MAW Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Rangers should be made to hand back all the trophies and medals they won during the EBT years as they are clearly tainted. Cheats shouldn't be rewarded. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Yes I do know that - my first point was always a jovial one - showing that the process was never a open and shut case. Tbf, the rest of your post was nonsense as well. Was it all a big joke? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adundeemonkey Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 http://www.sportsdirect.com/fabric-roll-cuff-embossed-beanie-906183?colcode=90618322 Good stuff from Ashley here. A beanie hat from him to King lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 HMRC ahead on corners! I'm cashing out! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Rangers should be made to hand back all the trophies and medals they won during the EBT years as they are clearly tainted. Cheats shouldn't be rewarded. Dude, Rangers are dead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Rangers 2-1 up on judgements! Those first two goals have now been chopped off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Those first two goals have now been chopped off. What school did the chopper offer go to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Bit of a shame for Rangers. Score was 2-1, but last goal the winner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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