Drainfish Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) I may be jumping the gun, as it's unclear if they need to be a director in both - however if Murray is involved again in any capacity it seems pretty shady Edited September 27, 2012 by Drainfish 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) I may be jumping the gun, as it's unclear if they need to be a director in both - however if Murray is involved again in any capacity it seems pretty shady I agree on the Murray thing it is shady and if I was a cynical soul I would maybe be of the way of thinking that Green and Whyte might well be on the payroll of MIH. However the quote you posted is quite clear, all three criteria should be met. one or more directors (including shadow directors) who are common to both the liquidated company and the successor company, andthere was Revenue debt of £10,000 or more (actual or estimated) in respect of the liquidated company, and the same trade or business is carried on by the successor company. Edited September 27, 2012 by stonedsailor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbungo1874 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I may be jumping the gun, as it's unclear if they need to be a director in both - however if Murray is involved again in any capacity it seems pretty shady When the news of the World first ran the EBT story a number of Rangers fans on here put forward the notion that MIH would be paying the bill. The FTT results are due out shortly, Murray may just have been asking Green how much do I owe the Tax man on Rangers behalf. Or they could be getting their story straight so they are both singing from the same hymn sheet when Hector finds them guilty next month. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnforever1992 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Wealth off the radar and CG want orc fans to forgive Murray? Keep them coming Green this is highly laughable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbungo1874 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Wealth off the radar and CG want orc fans to forgive Murray? Keep them coming Green this is highly laughable. Forgive Murray, the Rangers fans should be thanking him for making the club what it is today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnforever1992 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Are they going to invite Porn king Paul Baxandale Walker for tax advice? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Okay, everyone here knows my views on the whole Rangers/Sevco thing but I think you are barking up the wrong tree here. Is there a director or indeed shadow director who is common to both companies? I believe we went over this topic of directors and shadows during the appeal/tribunal where they whined about the transfer embargo. Did one of the bigwigs adjudicating not say that a "shadow director" was a person who, while not a director, nevertheless had an executive role in running the company. He used an example of a football club where the manager selected the players to buy or sell, players to pick, and so on, as performance on the pitch is linked to performance in the till. Step forward, Alistair McCoist, methinks - before we even have to unravel who is, or isn't, pulling his strings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) I believe we went over this topic of directors and shadows during the appeal/tribunal where they whined about the transfer embargo. Did one of the bigwigs adjudicating not say that a "shadow director" was a person who, while not a director, nevertheless had an executive role in running the company. He used an example of a football club where the manager selected the players to buy or sell, players to pick, and so on, as performance on the pitch is linked to performance in the till. Step forward, Alistair McCoist, methinks - before we even have to unravel who is, or isn't, pulling his strings. I'd like to see a link to that if possible because if so they're screwed. I'll pick the bones out of this later but I'd say that in McCoist's role of manager he would direct the board as to acquisition of players etc. Risky actionsSome examples of actions that could risk imposing shadow directorship include: Imposing financial reporting requirements on the company, or taking control of the financial affairs of the company. Making, or substantially influencing, major strategic decisions of the company, or exercising any power of veto over the company’s decisions. Choosing players to bid on? Negotiating with third parties on behalf of the rest of the board. Negotiating transfer fees? Player contracts? Controlling the appointment of senior management of the company. Appointing assistant manager and coaches? Ultimately, whether such actions can make a person liable as a shadow director will depend on the facts of each case. Edited September 27, 2012 by stonedsailor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 COMING SOON IN 2013 ! The eagerly awaited sequel to the biggest hit comedy of the year ever in Scottish Football ! From the makers of "The SPHell is dead" & "EBT the extra terrestrial" & "It's all Whyte dude I got wealth of the radar" and many others. LIQUIDATION 2 ! THE GREEN REAPER -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 COMING SOON IN 2013 ! The eagerly awaited sequel to the biggest hit comedy of the year ever in Scottish Football ! From the makers of "The SPHell is dead" & "EBT the extra terrestrial" & "It's all Whyte dude I got wealth of the radar" and many others. LIQUIDATION 2 ! THE GREEN REAPER Charles Green appearing as James Bond oh oh 7 in Her Majesty's Revenue Service. and You only die twice. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bendarroch Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 "It's all Whyte dude I got wealth of the radar" Just how much wealth does a radar have? Epic fail 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenolly Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 There's some hidden agenda "Baldrick style" cunning plan going on, with the tax man hovering and dual contracts, possible criminal proceedings all hiding in the wings in the newco's infancy up pops Chicos new mate and previous slayer of rangers Mr Minty moonbeams looking to reinvest and give Hector the bullet for the gun to finally exterminate the club, not to mention the possible back lash from the fans who see him as the cause of the collapse. I'm just waiting on the press conference where Green & Murray announce Craig Whyte as new Cheif financial officer and Paul Le Guen back in charge of the 1st team with 1st signing being an ageing Tore Andre Flo to keep the fans happy as they launch a share scheme Serious bizarre goings on, or is the grand plan extinction and asset stripping now the hate fury and media attention has dropped slightly being in the 3rd division 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caff Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Just how much wealth does a radar have? Epic fail There should be a full stop after the word 'fail'. http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?135893-Hartman%92s-Law-of-Prescriptivist-Retaliation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Just how much wealth does a radar have? Epic fail WELL DUHHH ! you tell me because your mob fell for it in the first place and actually it's how much wealth is a radar worth.And judging by your fans shyster radar ! FECK ALL because it doesn't work because there is a shyster at Ibrokes right now and the alarm ain't ringing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Harry Brady @HarryBradyCU 1) Stadium Sale and leaseback 2) Securitise season books 3) Resi on Murray Park Yes, within the week i'll reveal Greene finance plans Expand Reply Retweet Favorite :D it is going to get messy very very soon........ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comfortablynumb1910 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Are they going to invite Porn king Paul Baxandale Walker for tax advice? And how about John Terry to shore up the defence. I see that arrogant bigot believes he is the victim ?? of a witch hunt. He continually delayed his hearing by questioning the make up of the panel and has managed to convince thousands of halfwits that he is innocent. He would fit in perfectly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Harry Brady @HarryBradyCU 1) Stadium Sale and leaseback 2) Securitise season books 3) Resi on Murray Park Yes, within the week i'll reveal Greene finance plans Are they going to lease it off of Craig Whyte. What does securitise mean? Resi? What's that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Harry Brady @HarryBradyCU 1) Stadium Sale and leaseback 2) Securitise season books 3) Resi on Murray Park Yes, within the week i'll reveal Greene finance plans Are they going to lease it off of Craig Whyte. What does securitise mean? Resi? What's that? Securitise could mean use future sales as security for a loan from a company like Ticketus? Resi, residential property to be built on MP? Who knows? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnforever1992 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 So CW owns Ibrox, and MP could be for sale? Is CW waiting for a supermarket to buy the land at Ibrox for another profit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) Phil MacGiollaBhain @Pmacgiollabhain Why would the European Clubs Assoc be investigating the status of Sevco/Rangers' membership of that top flight body? Hmmmm Edited September 27, 2012 by stonedsailor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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