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So, if I understand you correctly, anyone who doesn't like rangers is a bigot? Is that what we're saying here? Just to get the ground rules straight, you understand. I thought he may have been caught on video singing anti-protestant songs, or conducting a crowd in sectarian singing, or trying to introduce a no-protestants employment policy at C4 News.

Nope. Doesn't like rangers = bigot. So long as we know the definition.

Now go on, defend Bendarroch again. That was funny. I like funny.biggrin.gif

In that case, I am super bigoted ;)

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How long have Kilmarnock been around?

143 years of unbroken history.

Just a few trophies - none presented in broom cupboards.

No riots.

No Uefa fines or sanctions.

No massive financial meltdowns. (OK, one that I remember, but "massive" isn't really the wordwink.gif)

No discriminatory signing policies - if they're cheap, we'll have 'em.

Aye, shit to be a Killie fan. laugh.gif

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Do Rangers fans dislike this guy so much because he's critical of the club? Serious question btw.

I can't speak for them all, but I never mind criticism - even harsh criticism if it has a basis in reality. Spiers, for example, has been right many times about Murray. However, I can't stand Spiers and his blatant lying.

Many moons ago I was at a packed Ibrox for a match versus Aberdeen when dolly started up their charming 'We all agree the Ibrox disaster was magic' sing-a-long. Spiers was there amongst the press - when challenged later as to why he chose to ignore the singing he said: "I never heard it."

The only temporarily deaf man in a crowd of 50,000 you see.

He lied - to cringing effect - on TV last night. I will confess to enjoying his squirming discomfort.

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I can't speak for them all, but I never mind criticism - even harsh criticism if it has a basis in reality. Spiers, for example, has been right many times about Murray. However, I can't stand Spiers and his blatant lying.

Many moons ago I was at a packed Ibrox for a match versus Aberdeen when dolly started up their charming 'We all agree the Ibrox disaster was magic' sing-a-long. Spiers was there amongst the press - when challenged later as to why he chose to ignore the singing he said: "I never heard it."

The only temporarily deaf man in a crowd of 50,000 you see.

He lied - to cringing effect - on TV last night. I will confess to enjoying his squirming discomfort.

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Maybe it was just a tiny minority that were singing? Just a thought.....

ETA: Spiers has been a smug c**t for years - surprised it's taken people this long to have a real go at him. Not fit to lace Big Shug's boots - but then, no journalist working in Scotland is.

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Maybe it was just a tiny minority that were singing? Just a thought.....

Aberdeen always arrive with a tiny minority - then sing as if their very lives depend on being heard at Ibrox. It's rare for it to last overly long mind you as we take great (and regular) delight in bitch slapping their team. Dolly silence invariably follows.

I heard the sheep that day - I regularly sit in the main stand behind the press.

Spiers lied - just as he did last night.

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Right, a couple of genuine inquiries as to what's happened here? I've been busy all day and not managed to keep up properly. Apologies if already addressed:

This business of finding for Rangers in the majority of cases, I don't understand the significance of. In the others, did HMRC win, or did Rangers not contest the original decision? Does this mean that EBT payments in those cases were found to be contractual, or does it mean something quite different? I know I'm being simplistic here, but if I was charged with 46 murders, but convicted only of 7, I'd still be in lots of trouble. Rangers don't appear to be in as much trouble any more. Why is that?

Another thing I don't get is how this decision could be reached following the Mark Daly programme. In it, correspondence involving Martin Bain and relating to Sasa Papac, seemed to firmly establish that he was ostensibly taking a pay cut, in order to instead receive payment via the EBT.

seriously, what's happened here? Is Mark Daly under genuine scrutiny as to the truth of what he alleged, even though none of it was legally contested at the time? Or does what he revealed not necessarily constitute payment being anything other than a loan (for reasons I don't understand)?

Can someone offer genuine explanations please, because my little head's struggling to get round some of it?

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Right, a couple of genuine inquiries as to what's happened here? I've been busy all day and not managed to keep up properly. Apologies if already addressed:

This business of finding for Rangers in the majority of cases, I don't understand the significance of. In the others, did HMRC win, or did Rangers not contest the original decision? Does this mean that EBT payments in those cases were found to be contractual, or does it mean something quite different? I know I'm being simplistic here, but if I was charged with 46 murders, but convicted only of 7, I'd still be in lots of trouble. Rangers don't appear to be in as much trouble any more. Why is that?

Another thing I don't get is how this decision could be reached following the Mark Daly programme. In it, correspondence involving Martin Bain and relating to Sasa Papac, seemed to firmly establish that he was ostensibly taking a pay cut, in order to instead receive payment via the EBT.

seriously, what's happened here? Is Mark Daly under genuine scrutiny as to the truth of what he alleged, even though none of it was legally contested at the time? Or does what he revealed not necessarily constitute payment being anything other than a loan (for reasons I don't understand)?

Can someone offer genuine explanations please, because my little head's struggling to get round some of it?

Because they can't be killed twice. It's not like they're fucking zombies, ferchrissakes! laugh.gif

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Is there actually any evidence of these Ibrox disaster chants being sung, seems to me like its an attempt by the Rangers fans to deflect attention away from their own sectarian singing.

Are you for real? Go on to you tube and have a search, f*8king halfwit.

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I can't speak for them all, but I never mind criticism - even harsh criticism if it has a basis in reality. Spiers, for example, has been right many times about Murray. However, I can't stand Spiers and his blatant lying.

Many moons ago I was at a packed Ibrox for a match versus Aberdeen when dolly started up their charming 'We all agree the Ibrox disaster was magic' sing-a-long. Spiers was there amongst the press - when challenged later as to why he chose to ignore the singing he said: "I never heard it."

The only temporarily deaf man in a crowd of 50,000 you see.

He lied - to cringing effect - on TV last night. I will confess to enjoying his squirming discomfort.

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I believe the you could day the exact same of old rangers board. iirc cara henderson from nil by mouth was attending as a guest of the club. She was subjected to a torrent of abuse and the usual bile from the rangers faithful. Needless to day no one on the rangers board heard this.

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I have to confess, i'm loving all these sevco fans getting all happy over achieving f**k all !! :lol:

Hmmmm, it is a strange one, right enough. Understandable, given the pelters they've had (wrongly and rightly)over the last few months, but their club is still dead, and the new one has still got Shifty McShifter in charge.

It's the way they keep using "we" when referring to the old club,and also when referring to the new club. Which one's their Big Team, d'ye think?

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Are you for real? Go on to you tube and have a search, f*8king halfwit.

Searched on youtube under the following headings "Ibrox disaster song" "Ibrox disaster chant" and "Ibrox disaster chant Aberdeen" there were no videos of Aberdeen fans singing about the Ibrox disaster there was one featuring your Glasgow cousins singing about the Ibrox disaster,one video telling how Jock Stein helped out tending to the injured(how did the fans of class and dignity FC thank him) and one or two featuring tribute songs to the ibrox disaster.

Still waiting on you providing me evidence of Aberdeen fans singing about the Ibrox disaster.

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Hmmmm, it is a strange one, right enough. Understandable, given the pelters they've had (wrongly and rightly)over the last few months, but their club is still dead, and the new one has still got Shifty McShifter in charge.

It's the way they keep using "we" when referring to the old club,and also when referring to the new club. Which one's their Big Team, d'ye think?

The one with fourth months old history.

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Searched on youtube under the following headings "Ibrox disaster song" "Ibrox disaster chant" and "Ibrox disaster chant Aberdeen" there were no videos of Aberdeen fans singing about the Ibrox disaster there was one featuring your Glasgow cousins singing about the Ibrox disaster,one video telling how Jock Stein helped out tending to the injured(how did the fans of class and dignity FC thank him) and one or two featuring tribute songs to the ibrox disaster.

Still waiting on you providing me evidence of Aberdeen fans singing about the Ibrox disaster.

I know what you're getting at here but i can tell you that Stein was thanked by many,many Rangers fans in the subsequent days and weeks after the disaster for his help that day.

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