Frankly, Mr Shankly Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorsoupe Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 That statement represents a spectacular failure to read the room 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Raith Against The Machine Posted October 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2021 "What about us loanee flops?" "You'll be given starting slots!" 92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Is there a chance our time in the Championship could end? Not on your life, my townie friend! 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parmesan Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I've just read the board statement. Here's the relevant bit: (Meggle:) 'Peter... understands results have to change and change quickly.' I interpret that as a warning to him, that if results don't change QUICKLY, he'll be sacked. They are willing to give him a little more time, but only a little. That's what it says to me. I guess 4 more games. 'results have to change QUICKLY' That's key. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Parmesan said: I've just read the board statement. Here's the relevant bit: (Meggle:) 'Peter... understands results have to change and change quickly.' I interpret that as a warning to him, that if results don't change QUICKLY, he'll be sacked. They are willing to give him a little more time, but only a little. That's what it says to me. I guess 4 more games. 'results have to change QUICKLY' That's key. Edited October 5, 2021 by renton 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Raith Against The Machine said: "What about us loanee flops?" "You'll be given starting slots!" This is the greatest post in PnB history 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRB Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 They said in the statement it effects people’s day to day life’s. they arnt wrong this is terrible from the board and so far away from the fans it’s truly unbelievable. if I was a current DAFC player I would be utterly embarrassed by that too. ive cancelled my lifeline as no longer putting money into that dross that is the BoD. Or be back at EEP till they get the fans back on board. scunnered at the statement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parmesan Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, renton said: I laughed, but I wouldn't say I'm clutching at straws. Crystal ball. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 That’s four points you never had when the league started back in July you ungrateful Fife hoors. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, Raith Against The Machine said: "What about us loanee flops?" "You'll be given starting slots!" Fucking hell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweaty Morph Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Stellaboz said: Is this the first time in history a team has been relegated as soon as October? Even Brechin managed until at least Halloween. Claude Anelka's Raith Rovers must have been close! 1 hour ago, 101 said: It was legitimate if you have enough confidence to ignore the off side rule, Grant has given us that confidence. By the plateful, apparently. I stand by my posts on the subject at the weekend, no gloating or pointing-and-laughing from me. The Simpsons posts though, keep them coming. Absolutely sensational. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ranaldo Bairn Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: This is the greatest post in PnB history It is quite magnificent. Move over Chigsy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DA Baracus Posted October 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2021 What an insulting big bag of shite that statement is. It's riddled with contradictions and outright lies. Who is it they think they are fooling?! Meggle claimed we played some entertaining football in the league cup (that game in Paisley wasn't entertaining), yet we smacked around a COVID riddled Dumbarton. However, whilst they aren't allowed to use COVID as an excuse, we are. Makes no sense. What impact has COVID actually had anyway? What players have been missing due to COVID? Breen? But then they surely knew the rules around isolation before bringing him over. Didn't they? Surely?! But he's just one of a trillion centre backs anyway, so what difference would he have made? He also mentions injuries. Again, who? Martin, Wilson and McCann. Wilson might have made a difference, but not enough to stop the shite we've seen. McCann has zero goals for the club. Martin has been released. Dow was injured and has been rushed back when a perfectly fit Thomas was available. Also, as the signing of Connolly showed, they could have tried to get another winger on loan anyway. The squad has been badly misused in general. No need to go in to that further, we all know and have all seen it. What are the "issues outwith the manager's control"? What is he hinting at there? Since the next paragraph mentions the disallowed goal on Saturday, it surely can't be that? The goal was rightly given offside incidentally, and even had it stood, there is no guarantee we would have won. The same applies to Wighton's goal at Starks. He notes that the defence improved after binning Mehmet, Graham and the shite formation. Yes, it did, but we still gave away some glaring chances. The defence was breached multiple times first half at Starks for example. Against Hamilton there was a free header they should have scored from. The goal we conceded on Saturday was rank. Three times we tried to aimlessly hack away the ball before Queens scored. Check the highlights. The defence is still far too vulnerable. The 'balance' he notes about attacking is bullshit. The stats have been noted on here about how few shots we have had. It should be noted how few crosses we're getting in, how few chances we're actually creating for the strikers. Why are out wingers so narrow? Why do we play forward so slowly? Where is the link up between midfield and attack? Why do we still shell so many awful high balls to no one? The 'balance' doesn't work when it's only 'balanced' towards defence anyway. We won't be drawing our way to the title or the playoffs. We've scored the lowest number of goals across the entire SPFL. Even Vale of Leithen, bottom of the Lowland League with a -67 goal difference after 13 games have scored more than us. Wigtown and Bladnoch, bottom of the South of Scotland League with a goal difference of -53 after eleven games have scored more than us. Every single team in the North of Scotland league has scored more than us, even though we've played more games than them all. It's obvious where the deficiencies lie here. Meggle mentions that "every single player has the individual qualities to help the team". Do they aye? That'll be why Graham has been bombed out of the squad completely. That'll be why Mehmet was dropped. That'll be why Leon Jones was basically given a big middle finder with the signing of Connolly. That'll be why we won't be seeing Watson again. That'll be why Thomas been dropped, despite starting as captain and despite Dow still not being fully fit after his injury. This will be why Kyle Macdonald hasn't got a look in at all. This will be why Matty Todd and Miller Fenton are nowhere to be seen, often not even making the bench. I don't get how they think things will suddenly change. It's not like we've got several key players out who will make a big difference to the team when they return. Will we suddenly start playing differently despite showing nothing to suggest we will at all? What exactly is the plan to turn things around? We signed a squad for the hideous three at the back formation. Now that that has been abandoned, we're stuck with 382342 central defenders and a really imbalanced squad. We signed really poorly and now the signings don't fit. Pybus is awful. Dorrans is a huge waste of cash. Who of them is driving us forward in the midfield? Allan might impress, the jury is still out on him. Cole, maybe? I'm unsure what sort of player he is. We're running with three strikers too. Todorov I think is ok, but like Wighton and O'Hara is getting no service at all, save the occasional aimless punt. These guys aren't getting any service for the most part. Wighton and O'Hara showed in the Rovers game, and at the weekend, that they can stay sharp and put the ball away if one comes their way, albeit the goals were disallowed (close with Wighton but definitely offside with O'Hara). O'Hara did score at Starks. We have strikers who can take chances. We need to make these chances, but we aren't. He notes that everyone is 'up for the fight blah blah blah'. I don't think the commitment of any of the players or staff has really been a question. I've seen them all trying, but many aren't good enough and the confidence is so low, ably assisted by the management. The stuff about Grant showing that he can handle 'a difficult situation' is perhaps the biggest lie and biggest pile of pish there. Have they genuinely got him confused with someone else? Between the talk of his team playing good football last season and now this, what the f**k are they on about? Anyway: - Grant resigned as manager last season (28.6% win record). He wasn't sacked. Does that show he can handle a difficult situation? - Grant resigned as manager at Norwich (33% win record). He wasn't sacked. Does that show he can handle a difficult situation? - Grant was punted as part of the Celtic coaching staff. Does that show that he can handle a difficult situation? - Grant was first team coach at Birmingham, before scuttling across the city to join Alex McLeish at Aston Villa, where they were both fired within a year. Does that show he can handle a difficult situation? - Grant was part of the awful Scotland set up under Alex McLeish who were pumped by Kazakhstan (that defending reminds of some team I know...) and who were sacked just after a year. Does that show he can handle a difficult situation? The last paragraph just seals the big mountain of shite and nonsense. I was at Dumfries on Saturday. One guy ran over to the barrier to give abuse. He wasn't trying to attack or get at anyone. He might have went a bit over the top with the abuse, but it was just one guy. One guy was a dick at Ayr to Dorrans. Are we to believe that two guys are driving sponsors away? No, what's driving sponsors away, or not helping attract sponsors, are the rapidly falling attendances at East End. Have some sponsors perhaps been sold on being seen by a certain number of people per game? Is that one of the reasons why the club lie about attendances? Sponsors won't be falling for that nonsense any longer, if they ever did. The club could have said that they understand fans' frustrations, but please try to remain civil. That's all they needed to say there. Incidentally, I was at the Ayr game too, and just like at the Dumfries game, there were a bunch of younger supporters who sang throughout the game and tried to encourage the team throughout, despite getting nothing in return. If the new investors have taken a negative portrayal of the club because a few lads shouted a few bad words, they need to have a wee word and perhaps think of the cause here. Why they, and the existing board members, are so desperate to defend Grant I don't know. They're alienating fans and driving them away (witness the lowest away support at Starks in memory, and just fucking wait until you see the crowd at the Kilmarnock game!), and for what? A dud manager who has never been a success and never will, at least not at this level. Crazy, crazy stuff. Fucking mind melting. A huge climbdown and massive, sincere apology is needed here, or else I fear we'll be fighting for our club again, against the club again. The talk of a youth academy seems like an absolute fantasy right now. In principal I'm absolutely for it, but in reality, how do we pay for the running costs once it's set up? How do we pay for the coaches and other staff? The equipment, the upkeep of the pitch(es) and facilities? On sub 3000 crowds? There's no joined up thinking there. I can genuinely see a scenario where the investors think it isn't working out as they hoped and selling up their shares and leaving, especially when you hear of so many fans cancelling lifelines and when you see the attendances we'll be getting at games. And they, and the existing board, have brought it on themselves should that happen. That's the path today's statement has set us down. 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: It is quite magnificent. Move over Chigsy. Just looked at it again and snorted so loudly laughing I think the neighbours are worried. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAPar Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 If any pars fans are looking to become even more seething, I just looked on dot net for the first time in years to see some people unironically defending the last paragraph of the statement. Honestly some people deserve this shitshow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, AlwaysAPar said: If any pars fans are looking to become even more seething, I just looked on dot net for the first time in years to see some people unironically defending the last paragraph of the statement. Honestly some people deserve this shitshow Surely not, it's a ridiculous statement to have written. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Toun Clock Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, AlwaysAPar said: If any pars fans are looking to become even more seething, I just looked on dot net for the first time in years to see some people unironically defending the last paragraph of the statement. Honestly some people deserve this shitshow Aye I noticed that, wasn't surprised. Fortunately it was only 3/4 people and they're all long term posters and long term roasters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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