The Real Saints Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 What a ridiculous overreaction. I wouldn't even have considered making a connection between these costumes and people who suffer from mental illnesses like depression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 What a ridiculous overreaction. I wouldn't even have considered making a connection between these costumes and people who suffer from mental illnesses like depression. I don't think many people would. It ridiculous to even suggest it. If anyone should be offended here it should be the general public as they've been made out to be thundering thickos who can't think for themselves and would take a silly wee Halloween costume to be representative of someone suffering from mental health issues as well as being people who actually believe in stereotypes and take them seriously. Besides, I'd wager that more people would equate the stereotype of a 'mental patient' with something akin to One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest (or that episode of The Simpsons where Homer gets sent to a phsyciatric ward) rather than a blood stained, knife wielding murdering sociopath. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sky+remote Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Get the forms filled in. In my non-expert opinion you have moderate depression, and treatment will help you. I have filled the forms in, numerous times, signed and dated and everything! Getting myself up there to hand them in is a different matter. Not sure how about actually making an appointment and talking about it either to be honest. I am trying though (slightly) Not really convinced on the treatment side either, unsure of what I really want from a doctors input. I don't even like taking pain killers because of the side effects, never mind the numbing abilities of the medecation likely to be prescribed to me. I do realise that I need help, but it's hard to see what agreeable action can happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Yeah, I agree. Renaming it would have been fine. People can forget that mental health patients have more than likely had to deal with the idea or the accusation that they're dangerous or a threat to others. There's plenty of examples of television dramas and movies where the killer or the main antagonist is suffering from some sort of mental illness such as schizophrenia that suggests that people suffering from it ARE dangerous when this isn't the truth in many cases. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) I think the furore about that costume is more to do with the fact that it was labelled as a 'mental patient' rather than 'horror film villain' or whatever. It would have been fine, if they hadn't linked this apparent knife-wielding maniac to mental health patients. I certainly wouldn't think 'mental patient' just by looking at it, without seeing the object description. The difference between this and the facile comparison Jimmy85 made to pirates is that this perception that mental patients are psychopaths and somehow something 'to be feared' is a real phenomenon that has for years actually perpetuated in society a 'fear' or wariness of real people with mental health issues, that has been actively damaging to them and their treatment etc. The costume, or rather their branding of the costume, in its own small way, legitimises and perpetuates that existing 'discrimination', or whatever you want to call it. You can argue that there's been an overreaction or that somehow some lesser step like renaming the costume would have been a more appropriate step than removing it from sale, but it seems fairly clear to me that in the form that it was being sold, it was harmful. Except they didn't do that. The media and whiny fucks made that connection. For me it was very obvious what they meaning with this costume, i.e. linked to various horror films where 'mental patients' do indeed go fucking mental and butcher folk with various sharp metal implements. No one would have said a thing about this costume or linked it with mental health if it wasn't for a flood of over-reactions and tears. No one would probably have even known about it had it not been highlighted and massively blown out of proportion. Edited September 26, 2013 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperDee Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Yeah, I agree. Renaming it would have been fine. People can forget that mental health patients have more than likely had to deal with the idea or the accusation that they're dangerous or a threat to others. There's plenty of examples of television dramas and movies where the killer or the main antagonist is suffering from some sort of mental illness such as schizophrenia that suggests that people suffering from it ARE dangerous when this isn't the truth in many cases. Exactly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 OK we'll start selling African American costumes that portray them as slaves. We'll complete the look with some chicken and watermelon and a bag that they can put the cotton into. Or how about a German costume complete with Nazi memorabilia Or even a cancer patient costume, complete with bald skull cap just to complete the look. All three above scenarios have been portrayed in movies in the past. Imagine the uproar I've done all of them! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Snelders Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 What a ridiculous overreaction. I wouldn't even have considered making a connection between these costumes and people who suffer from mental illnesses like depression. What mental illness would you link it to then, if not depression? Unsurprising to see sweeperdee has disappeared from this thread. Nobody has had a bash at my question yet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) What mental illness would you link it to then, if not depression? I wouldn't link it any real-life mental illness. I would link it to horror films' interpretations of mental patients/psychopaths. Edited September 28, 2013 by The Real Saints 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Snelders Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I wouldn't link it any real-life mental illness. I would link it to horror films' interpretations of mental patients/psychopaths. Well, don't know if anyone looked at my link above, but it clearly links mental illness to violent crime. There's been a lot of stuff like that in the media down this neck of the woods recently. This kind of thing gets spoon fed to the general public, and mental health stigma is almost one of our last taboos. That's why these costumes should never been named as they were. Stigma is a big deal. Glad to note that the good people of Lancashire gave that article the big GTF thou http://www.seemescotland.org.uk/home/ http://www.time-to-change.org.uk/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Snelders Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Linking mental illness with Violent crime is okay if it's in a film and done stylishly though, eh? You're more likely to be a victim of violent crime if you've a mental illness than vice versa. Films- as long as folk keep in mind it's more likely not to be near real life. No party pooper here, but stigma is a big problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Snelders Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 So what's the difference with the Halloween costume then? If people keep in mind it's not like real life it's the same thing? You'll notice I only said the costume's name was wrong. It's more the press I'm slamming btw-don't let facts get in the way of titillating the public. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I look exactly like that! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Found out two weeks ago that I lost a dear friend, due to staying in because of other BS and feeling depressed missed contact with him and his family and so missed his funeral. Feel unable to grieve properly but it feels like a kick up the arse and next year I'm determined to sort my life out and try to move on from and away from the situation I found myself in for over ten years. Staying in and away from people is not the answer to overcoming narcissists and arseholes who fucked my life over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I have never felt so low in my life than I'm just now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I have never felt so low in my life than I'm just now. That's more to do with your stupidity of following a team from Edinburgh rather than an underlying mental health issue. I suffer from the very same stupidity! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Snelders Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I have never felt so low in my life than I'm just now. How are you? Sounds like you've been having a stressful time lately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I have never felt so low in my life than I'm just now. Do you want to talk about it mate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) How are you? Sounds like you've been having a stressful time lately. Fine mate. Starting training again tomorrow night. So hopefully that get's my confidence back up and cracking username btw Do you want to talk about it mate? No really mate but thanks for asking mate . Starting tomorrow is a new start for me. Gonna finally get myself sorted Edited October 1, 2013 by Isaiah Osbourne 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latapythelegend Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Anyone else get drastic mood swings? i can go from being in a smashing mood one moment to feeling like shit a few minutes later. It usually results in me being really dry towards people and just a horrible person to be around. It also makes me want to be alone but I just feel worse as a result. It seems to have intensified over the last year or so. Not good at all. Is this what bipolar is? Don't like jumping to conclusions however this just isn't normal. Edited October 1, 2013 by latapythelegend 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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