roverthemoon Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Pish and you know it. If they wanted peoples responses to the question they should have just asked it. Totally agree. Same goes for the Wings poll. Looks like Ipsos MORI is the only worthwhile indicator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ashcroft poll in May has almost exactly the same premble. Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Quite. Which makes it of some value in comparison terms. The figures are likely to be inflated but the error will be the same in both polls so any movement between these polls could be significant, which was from memory No +5 Yes no change Undecided -5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Are you suggesting that any of the questions in that poll were as leading as the "preamble" above? Please provide examples. Mmm.. so the evidence of the leading questions you asked for are there Would you like to withdraw that outraged horror at the suggestion? Sorry... would you like to surrender that position? As I've already stated above, I consider the WoS questions to be less leading. I note that you haven't taken up the opportunity to provide examples. Oh, while we're at it, can you point out where I demonstrated "outraged horror"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Pringle has tweeted this. Must be a more positive one for yes @KevinJPringle: Looking forward to new #indyref poll. Check out tomorrow's @thecourieruk, @ScottishSun, @pressjournal & @bauermedianews radio stations. #Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Courier has this teaser "Anyway, its going to be a corker to start the week with top billing going to a seriously sensational referendum story that could be about to blow the battle for independence wide open...dont miss it" My bet poll showing Yes ahead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 DEFLECT!! DEFLECT!! DEFLECT!! By the way, Wings weren't interested in repeating the same sort of poll. They wanted to see other info that the media weren't asking. Fascinating that the wings poll never came up today, until the unionists got smeared into the ground tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 As I've already stated above, I consider the WoS questions to be less leading. I note that you haven't taken up the opportunity to provide examples. Oh, while we're at it, can you point out where I demonstrated "outraged horror"? Really... the use of the word 'surrender' isnt leading? The WoS poll is a bit of fun. I get it. Paid for by the people who want to read its findings and be happy. Lets not pretend it adds anything useful to the actual referendum though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Really... the use of the word 'surrender' isnt leading? The WoS poll is a bit of fun. I get it. Paid for by the people who want to read its findings and be happy. Lets not pretend it adds anything useful to the actual referendum though. As opposed to the poll you spent all day defending today? Paid for by the people that want to read its findings and be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Are you back to liking polls again? If we want to make a collective decision on the board to only include polls with the exact question , 1000 min respondents and no preamble im good with that. Leaves us with just IPSOS and Panelbase ( non wos). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 As opposed to the poll you spent all day defending today? Paid for by the people that want to read its findings and be happy. I dont think they ll be very happy at all with the findings. The larger the No lead the less incentive for Devo plussing. Not good news at all for the poll commissioners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Courier has this teaser "Anyway, its going to be a corker to start the week with top billing going to a seriously sensational referendum story that could be about to blow the battle for independence wide open...dont miss it" My bet poll showing Yes ahead... Oh exciting Im going for Sir Sean to replace Blair Jenkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Are you back to liking polls again? If we want to make a collective decision on the board to only include polls with the exact question , 1000 min respondents and no preamble im good with that. Leaves us with just IPSOS and Panelbase ( non wos). All polls this far out are meaningless, but I am especially enjoying being proven right, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 All polls this far out are meaningless, but I am especially enjoying being proven right, again. You havent been proven right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Opinion polls are the 'friendlies' of politics aren't they? If you get humped 4-0 its irrelevant, meaningless or whatever but if you win 4-0 its full on 'WE'RE GUNNA WIN THE LEAGUE!1!!1' mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 “There will be a referendum on an independent Scotland on 18th of September 2014. How do you intend to vote in response to the question: Should Scotland be an independent country?" Yes - 44% No - 43% Don't Know - 13% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Looking forward to xbl sticking to his 'polls are irrelevant this far out' line Cover of Dundee Courier, Yes 44% No 43% (Panelbase survey) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Full sample still has No ahead by 1%. Quite a swing in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 There will be a referendum on an independent Scotland on 18th of September 2014. How do you intend to vote in response to the question: Should Scotland be an independent country?" Yes - 44% No - 43% Don't Know - 13% Don't know figure pretty similar to the one that got the YouGov ridiculed early on. Will be interesting to see if it has the same effect here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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