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Me either but i prefer protestants over caths because of the hood I'm from

Also because i don't approve of molesting young boys and covering it up on a national scale but I'm quite unreasonable like that

Because of the hood I'm from?! You realise how ridiculous that sounds both in sentiment and the fact you used hood like your from inner-city america.

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If you're reading this thread then you're clearly interested in relations between Northern Irish Protestants and the rest of the islands population as well as being fascinated by all forms of cricket particularly the international game outside the test playing nations.

You'll thus be interested to know that Northern Irish divine comedy frontman, and son of an anglican bishop, Neil Hannon joined forces with Dublin singer-songwriter Thomas Walsh to form a duo called The Duckworth Lewis Method that sing about cricket. The released their second album, "Sticky Wickets", this year.

http://www.dlmethod.co.uk/audio/releases/the-duckworth-lewis-method

They also came up with and alternative Irish national anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWuUcAjuWjQ

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Nice generalisation. You'll get lots of greenies from your Celtic buddies for that effort.

They can green dot me if they want, I don't even check it.

And orangemen freely choose to join a sectarian hate group which every fucking year instigates violence and chaos on the streets of NI when they're refused permission to march through areas where they're not welcome.

So I don't buy the whole "he's an orangeman but he's really a nice guy" pish.

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No, The Irish cricket team is represented by players from Ireland, nothing about north or south, looks to me they think sport has f**k all to do with politics.

They are looking to progress to Test status, this would stop the current tide of players who go on to play for England just because they have resided there, Morgan and Joyce being 2 examples.

Think Egg Chasing is the same IIRC.

Weird they have some sports are deemed worthy of partition and some are not.

All part of life in a borderline failed state that's riven by sectarian, fairy in the sky conflict, I suppose.

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Not a lot of point following up the LOL related posts, because I seriously doubt that most of the people spewing bile about that particular organisation are actually interested in intelligent discussion of the topic as opposed to an exchange of tribalistic insults. If anyone is interested in how the UK's Glorious Revolution related constitution shapes its modern politics and culture in a way that makes it markedly different from most other western countries (the LOL is just one manifestation of that) I'd recommend the writings of Tom Nairn as being worth a look:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Nairn

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Not a lot of point following up the LOL related posts, because I seriously doubt that most of the people spewing bile about that particular organisation are actually interested in intelligent discussion of the topic as opposed to an exchange of tribalistic insults. If anyone is interested in how the UK's Glorious Revolution related constitution shapes its modern politics and culture in a way that makes it markedly different from most other western countries (the LOL is just one manifestation of that) I'd recommend the writings of Tom Nairn as being worth a look:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Nairn

How many members of the LOL (incidentally, is there a more appropriate acronym in the entire world) are interested in intelligent discussion of the topic as opposed to an exchange of tribalistic insults"?

I don't count any LOL members among my friends, but I know a fair few of them, and without exception they are ruddy-faced MUSSUS BUNFIELDS who are only interested in a big GIRUY to "them".

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The seethe continues. Ruth Dudley Edwards' book, The Faithful Tribe, seemed to go down quite well amongst some of them despite being written by a woman from Dublin from an irish Nationalist background:

http://www.amazon.com/Faithful-Tribe-The-Loyal-Institutions/dp/0002558637

Think that book could be viewed as an attempt at intelligent discussion of Orangeism.

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Not a lot of point following up the LOL related posts, because I seriously doubt that most of the people spewing bile about that particular organisation are actually interested in intelligent discussion of the topic as opposed to an exchange of tribalistic insults. If anyone is interested in how the UK's Glorious Revolution related constitution shapes its modern politics and culture in a way that makes it markedly different from most other western countries (the LOL is just one manifestation of that) I'd recommend the writings of Tom Nairn as being worth a look:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Nairn

Funnily enough I've studied constitutional law and already know a great deal about the Glorious Revolution and can see that it was largely a good thing (for everyone apart from Irish Catholics at least), and yet I haven't started a single triumphalist sectarian organization.

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The seethe continues. Ruth Dudley Edwards' book, The Faithful Tribe, seemed to go down quite well amongst some of them despite being written by a woman from Dublin from an irish Nationalist background:

http://www.amazon.com/Faithful-Tribe-The-Loyal-Institutions/dp/0002558637

Think that book could be viewed as an attempt at intelligent discussion of Orangeism.

That's all well and good. Would you say, however, that an in-depth knowledge of the events leading up to and following the Glorious Revolution, and its impact on the UK Constitution, is known to a great extent by the majority of LOL members?
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That's all well and good. Would you say, however, that an in-depth knowledge of the events leading up to and following the Glorious Revolution, and its impact on the UK Constitution, is known to a great extent by the majority of LOL members?

Not in my experience anyway. I've spent a lot of time researching Scottish constitutional and Covenanting literary history c. 1660-1689 and some of the arguments I've gotten into with OO members are a frightening indictment on their knowledge of the period. These are definite OO members, before anyone asks, the kind who post photos of their fun shenanigans in Belfast on Facebook. I once walked out the pub after being called a "Jacobite b*****d" whilst discussing the finer nuances of Charles II's viceroy set up in Scotland. Utterly abysmal levels of debate in my experience.

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Do Northern Ireland have a cricket team?

You could say that they've currently effectively got two

The Northern Cricket Union covers Belfast and that end of NI. While the North Western Union is based around Londonderry/Derry and takes in a few places that are technically Connaught

This year the inaugural Irish provincial championship featured just the North, Northwest and Leinster which is one more pro team than Scotland or Holland can currently manage.

Belfast Tim and Jacks Grandad will be glad to know that the "Northern Knights" won the 2013 interprovinvial championship "Leinster Lightning" ran them close while the "Northwest Warriors" finished bottom

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Funny enough one of the most popular places for cricket in Northern Ireland in the late 60's and early 70's was Falls Park, a friend of mine organised tournaments there many years ago in the summers, used to get very large numbers there too but think it was seen as a bit too British-y for the local politicians/hoods.

There still are lots of leagues here though, junior cricket is flourishing ,my son plays for our local team.

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