P45 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Keep that shit in Ireland you filthy fucks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 You lot are every bit as intolerant as the people you deride as bigots. The Scottish squad was not that bad were only playing UAE. Warm up for the ICC ffs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) I met a couple of bandsmen in the pub last night who were over from somewhere near Londonderry for some do in Glasgow today and they were pissed up tourists with comedy accents who seemed harmless enough. On leaving i was told "Have a goodnight and don't crack too many chestnuts" What the f**k does that mean? I don't think chestnuts had been mentioned all night, and besides, you roast and peel chestnuts instead of cracking them. Is this an obscure bit of Northern Irish backwoods slang? Was I being insulted, complimented, wished well, propositioned? Or was it just surreal drunken nonsense Edited May 23, 2015 by topcat(The most tip top) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why have a march in Scotland that celebrates killing Catholics in Ireland? Unsurprisingly the supports of it are cretinous Ranges fans who live in the past. And Fashanu-AFC who's a troll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Think I could hear a flute band type thing from my flat near Gorgie, or am I talking shite? Also, "Scottish cricket"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 The true test of your tolerance is how you deal with people you disagree with most strongly and the real definition of bigotry is being opposed to something to an unreasonable extent. You can be bigoted in the extent of your support of the SNP and independence, just as you can be bigoted in the extent of your support for the Union and the Windsor monarchy. Why have a march in Scotland that celebrates killing Catholics in Ireland? You should maybe check up on which side the Pope was actually on in 1690, although I don't doubt it would also come as a shock to many flute band members. Reality is more complex and multi-faceted than the stereotypes people peddle on this. If I delve back into my family tree a bit the people in my family who were most into Orangeism were also well into the Labour party and socialism given they were from a coal mining background. Your perception of what it is all about may not correspond neatly with what the people involved think they are celebrating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 No, there is 100% no Orange parade taking place anywhere in Glasgow tomorrow. Parade 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Pleasing that we don't have to endure these outdated, bigoted cretins on the streets in Aberdeen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Think I could hear a flute band type thing from my flat near Gorgie, or am I talking shite? Also, "Scottish cricket"? I thought I heard that too and it turns out we were right Edinburgh Council Site Lists Apprentice Boys of Derry - City of Edinburgh Campsie Club, Dalry and Gorgie, Edinburgh, 23/05/2015 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 You lot are every bit as intolerant as the people you deride as bigots. *** b*****d 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I thought I heard that too and it turns out we were right Edinburgh Council Site Lists Apprentice Boys of Derry - City of Edinburgh Campsie Club, Dalry and Gorgie, Edinburgh, 23/05/2015 The Highlanders have run away with this season's North Sea Pro series http://www.cricketscotland.com/north-sea-pro-series/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Just back from the cricket. Absolutely pumped but got a flamboyant 16 not out at the end. Ironically I could hear a 'parade' while I was batting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsh Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 See if they really want to walk and celebrate, can they not just hire Glasgow Green or a big open space? I'm genuinely not trying to antagonise but I don't really see the point in bringing streets to a standstill. If they want to celebrate something that happened over 300 years ago in a different country, then wire in, but don't inconvenience people who don't want to take part. Unless that's part of the fun......? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 P&B should organise its own walk every year to honour the sending of Alexandra Burke to Peterhead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Think I could hear a flute band type thing from my flat near Gorgie, or am I talking shite? Would it not be stranger if you couldn't hear one? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I am no legal expert, but I would suggest that the right of freedom of assembly, protest, freedom of speech and procession were in existence and protected long before the UK signed up to adhere to Human Rights legislation. Nor I am aware of any loyal order parade in Scotland having to have went to the ECHR to get permission to stage a march.... Under the traditional Westminster system there was no written constitution and the sovereignty of the crown in parliament gave a parliamentary majority the power to do pretty much anything it wanted, so rights like that were not firmly constitutionally entrenched, but more of a convention respected by tradition that could be suspended whenever it was convenient for those in power to do so. A lot of SNP types would love to ban the walks once and for all. They haven't tried because they know that European Convention on Human Rights makes freedom of assembly an entrenched right that has to be respected by local councils. David Cameron wants to be seen to reduce the influence of the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg as a cynical ploy to keep UKIP at bay. Nicola Sturgeon is happy to do anything that drives a wedge constitutionally between Scotland and England, so will use the way it is the ECHR is entrenched into the Scotland Act of 1998 to do the opposite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Do you object to traffic congestion caused by any other protest or parade or just loyal order ones? How many times this year as your life been inconveniced by being caught up by huge volumes of traffic caused by them? Do you not think that the "battles that happened over 300 years ago in another country" had any influence upon the development of "our country"? ^^^ Orangeman found. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Under the traditional Westminster system there was no written constitution and the sovereignty of the crown in parliament gave a parliamentary majority the power to do pretty much anything it wanted, This is very bad wording, chap. The delight of 1688's revolution was to give parliament sovereignty over the crown. You are right in saying that, "a parliamentary majority (has) the power to do pretty much anything it wanted," Now I deprecate any attempts to change The Human Rights act for The UK and doubt it will happen. However, I don't see it having an affect on any peaceful celebration of William's glorious revolution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 That's the point of the sovereignty of the crown in parliament notion within English legal tradition (Scots law is often said to differ a bit about where sovereignty ultimately lies with the people being claimed to be ultimately sovereign, but it makes little practical difference). The idea is precisely that parliament rather than the monarchy ultimately holds all the power and can do as it pleases in legislative terms with no US style written constitution to firmly entrench individual rights and freedoms as a counterbalance. The UK predates the Enlightenment, so it missed out on that sort of stuff in constitutional terms at least until the ECHR was signed up to and the authority of the court in Strasbourg was recognised. Cameron's desire to go down this route puts him in Jobbik sort of territory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR96 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 My main objection to these walks is the fact they hold them at stupid o'clock in the morning. Got woken up by them yomping down my street in Stirling at 9am this morning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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