ynwa12346 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 You probably should. lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Take away the sky fairy angle as has happened over the past two generations as Scottish society has secularised and all that's left is a backward ancestral tribalism that revolves around what type of school you went to. The political parties with the exception so far of the Greens don't want to touch this issue because there are still enough older voters that actually believe in the sky fairy stuff to make backing full all out secularism with a complete separation of church and state a potential vote loser for them if there wasn't a broad based consensus across the political elite. So instead what we have got until very recently is politicians (Labour, the SNP and Lib Dems have all been at it in recent times, and the old Unionist party that was the forerunner to the Conservatives was very much defined by it) trying to appeal to voters (mainly but not exclusively on the RC side of the fence, the SNP in the Monklands East by election would be an example of the opposite) on a visceral level by tapping into this tribalism in a hot button sort of way. To paraphrase McDairmid it's time to pit the clathe ower the parrot on this stuff and move on. Edited May 30, 2015 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I have never said they weren't open to kids of other back grounds. But they aren't open in their recruitment of teachers. I think when a school has a religious ethos then it must surely compromise the teaching of certain aspects of science and I know for a fact that certain social and ethical subjects are not permitted to be brought up as the subject of discursive/persuasive essays in English in a couple of the RC high schools that I know most about personally. The advice of guidance teachers to vulnerable students is also going to have to conform to the requirements of the faith, first and foremost, rather than what is best for the child- that doesn't sit comfortably with me either. I think schools should encourage kids to be able to discuss and question absolutely everything in life- that's the basis of education. I think in religious schools that this freedom is compromised by other considerations and sensitivities. Don't talk fuckin shite , you really are coming across as an ignoramus. RC schools teach the exact same curriculum as any other State school , they are legally required to. A teachers religion has no bearing on they way they teach science in a RC school?!! What the fuk are you talking about? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) Video just popped up on my twitter there of a carriage full of men on the Glasgow subway in blue/white and red scarfs and orange blue and white scarfs singing 'we fucking hate Roman Catholics' In this day and age Embarassment Edited May 30, 2015 by 1320Lichtie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Video just popped up on my twitter there of a carriage full of men on the Glasgow subway in blue/white and red scarfs and orange blue and white scarfs singing 'we fucking hate Roman Catholics' In this day and age Embarassment I seen that one, obviously not representative of the orcs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 Video just popped up on my twitter there of a carriage full of men on the Glasgow subway in blue/white and red scarfs and orange blue and white scarfs singing 'we fucking hate Roman Catholics' In this day and age Embarassment Bloody ICT fans in the city for the cup final 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) If you are being taught in RE that the world came about through creationism how is this reconciled with being taught in Science about evolution? I know RC schools where there is absolutely no way a child would be allowed to write a discursive essay on for example the subject of abortion- I don't believe educational establishments should prohibit what a child can and cant write about. I don't claim this is official policy across al schools, but it has been the case in the only 2 where I know teachers. I don't believe for a moment you've ever set foot in a catholic school to be making such claims.Some of us have first hand experiences, but for a laugh. Please name the school in question Edited May 30, 2015 by Enrico Annoni 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Video just popped up on my twitter there of a carriage full of men on the Glasgow subway in blue/white and red scarfs and orange blue and white scarfs singing 'we fucking hate Roman Catholics' In this day and age Embarassment Moronic to say the least and something that is a clear BoTP, but I'm not convinced (but certainly still open to persuasion) that it's really any more noteworthy in the big scheme of things nowadays than equally moronic songs about zoophilia aimed at Aberdonians when all of the people singing it probably never go anywhere near a church and are motivated by dislike of Celtic rather than anything related to differing views over transubstantiation or something like that. Politicians, who exploit the lingering tribalism, pretend there's still a huge rigid polarisation of Scottish society like there was 50 or 60 years ago, but the reality is that Senga has been marrying Declan, and Siobhan has been marrying Derek in recent decades and there is a younger generation growing up now, who can often easily swing both ways on these things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Gorilla Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Video just popped up on my twitter there of a carriage full of men on the Glasgow subway in blue/white and red scarfs and orange blue and white scarfs singing 'we fucking hate Roman Catholics' In this day and age Embarassment Post it on here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 I never claimed to have set foot in a RC school or have first hand experiences, but I have actually, and I would bet I was far closer to the delivery of the curriculum than you ever were presumably as a student.... Please. Don't leave us hanging. Do back up this claim 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Why send your kids to a Catholic school if your not Catholic?I'm not catholic. I went to a catholic school. I thought the purpose of going to school was to receive an education. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Video just popped up on my twitter there of a carriage full of men on the Glasgow subway in blue/white and red scarfs and orange blue and white scarfs singing 'we fucking hate Roman Catholics' In this day and age Embarassment Thursday night?Ten minute sash bash on the train we got on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Post it on here https://twitter.com/anthonyadams20/status/604537217013415936 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co.Down Hibee Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 https://twitter.com/anthonyadams20/status/604537217013415936 IMO this should be given the same national coverage as the Chelsea incident in Paris. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 I am actually now sitting in the company of a RC English teacher. of course you are champ. Great deflection though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 One just marched by. About 20 people in total, including the folk playing the instruments. All the folk in the fancy dress were old white men. Think there were about 5 folk following it. Absolutely no one was giving a f**k. They're such an irrelevance that there were only about 5 police officers (one who was on a bike). It seemed the marchers just do it to provoke a reaction but, at least around here as far as I could see, no one cares. What a sad, pathetic bunch of bitter irrelevant fools. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 One just marched by. About 20 people in total, including the folk playing the instruments. All the folk in the fancy dress were old white men. Think there were about 5 folk following it. Absolutely no one was giving a f**k. They're such an irrelevance that there were only about 5 police officers (one who was on a bike). It seemed the marchers just do it to provoke a reaction but, at least around here as far as I could see, no one cares. What a sad, pathetic bunch of bitter irrelevant fools. It's attention seeking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The COS is legally responsible for RE in all Non Dom schools in Scotland. Why do these non elected god botherers have so much say in our schools? No idea why anyone would even think this. Religious and Moral Education is the responsibility of Education Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Think the role of the CoS (there is one that is in the relevant legislation) is to inspect the standard of RE in non-denom schools or something like that. The legislation that is in place is almost a century old and reflects a very different Scotland from today's secular post-Christian society. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 If you are being taught in RE that the world came about through creationism how is this reconciled with being taught in Science about evolution? I know RC schools where there is absolutely no way a child would be allowed to write a discursive essay on for example the subject of abortion- I don't believe educational establishments should prohibit what a child can and cant write about. I don't claim this is official policy across al schools, but it has been the case in the only 2 where I know teachers. If you are being taught in RE that the world came about through creationism how is this reconciled with being taught in Science about evolution? I know RC schools where there is absolutely no way a child would be allowed to write a discursive essay on for example the subject of abortion- I don't believe educational establishments should prohibit what a child can and cant write about. I don't claim this is official policy across al schools, but it has been the case in the only 2 where I know teachers.Wit the fuk are u rabbling about?!!!Why would RC school be teaching creationism when Catholics don't believe in it?!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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