Burma Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 So are unionist parties not allowed to change their policies? Are nationalist parties allowed to change theirs?It seems pointless, self defeating, smacks of desperation a little and politically incompetent to demand an end to any discussion on anything to do with a policy as huge as devolution, only to completely reverse that decision less than twelve months later. I have no problem with parties changing policies but there are two problems with your argument.1- In order to.change your policy you need a valid reason. The tories, especially, have not provided any reasoning behind their sudden love of devolution. 2.-There are no policies - merely a hint that there might be....in the future....depending on certain factors......we promise...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tio Pepe Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 It seems pointless, self defeating, smacks of desperation a little and politically incompetent to demand an end to any discussion on anything to do with a policy as huge as devolution, only to completely reverse that decision less than twelve months later. I have no problem with parties changing policies but there are two problems with your argument. 1- In order to.change your policy you need a valid reason. The tories, especially, have not provided any reasoning behind their sudden love of devolution. 2.-There are no policies - merely a hint that there might be....in the future....depending on certain factors......we promise...... Smacks of political desperation in the same way performing a complete about turn on NATO membership does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Smacks of political desperation in the same way performing a complete about turn on NATO membership does? No. That was the settled will of the party membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 The 'Guilt Bombs' begin http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-27775468 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 No. That was the settled will of the party membership. So was re regulation of buses. When are the SNP government bringing that in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 No. That was the settled will of the party membership. Going OT, but I don't see why that's viewed any differently to the Lib Dems on tuition fees. If you'd asked me a while ago to name some of the SNP's core policies off the top of my head, after independence and opposition to NATO and nuclear weapons would have been pretty high up the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Unionists confusing the snp with the yes campaign again,it seems a common trait,jenny marra saying the head of the yes campaign should debate with the chairman of better together then saying salmond and darling should do a series of debates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 The 'Guilt Bombs' begin http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-27775468 Didums. Can you imagine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 The 'Guilt Bombs' begin http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-27775468 Goodness me, worrying times for all at Newcastle Airport. Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Against all odds Posted on June 09, 2014 by Rev. Stuart Campbell The Daily Record carries a story this evening about a man placing a £200,000 bet with William Hill on a No vote in the independence referendum. A punter is so sure of a No vote in the Independence referendum he has put a record £200,000 on the result. The bet equalled the biggest sum wagered on politics in the UK. The revelation came yesterday from bookie William Hill, where the gambler made three hefty bets on the status quo being maintained. The man, in his 50s, walked into a shop in Glasgow and put £30,000 on the counter, taking odds of 1/5 on a No vote. He then came back later that day and stuck on another £70,000. And the next day he turned up with another £100,000 in cash, which he stuck on despite the odds shortening to 1/6. If Scots vote to stay in the Union he will win £36,000. And readers might be forgiven for finding it a bit familiar. A CUSTOMER IN A William Hill Glasgow betting shop has gambled £200,000 believed to be the largest political bet ever struck that the outcome of the 2014 Scottish Referendum will be a vote AGAINST Independence. We have never taken a bigger bet than this on any political subject. said Hills spokesman Graham Sharpe. The man, in his late fifties, with a pronounced Scottish accent, and a stranger to staff, struck one bet of £30,000 at odds of 1/5, then returned to place another, of £70,000 at the same odds, before placing a third, of £100,000 at odds by now shortened to 1/6. He stands to make a total profit of £36,666. That second quote is from the William Hill website, almost exactly a year ago. And when an alert reader spotted it, we were about to dismiss is as one of the weird database quirks that you sometimes see in online newspapers where an old story will occasionally appear to have been printed today unless you look very closely at the dateline, because we clearly remembered the bet being reported widely at the time. That was until we read this bit in the Record article: The revelation came with 100 days to go before the referendum. Theres no mistake here. And no innocent confusion by a careless hack lifting the story off the internet without noticing the year either, because the Hills story is dated the 24th of June 2013, and eagle-eyed calendar watchers will of course be aware that its currently only the 9th of June this year. (Hills current odds for a No vote have gotten rather more generous since then as the polls have narrowed, with a rather more lucrative 1/4 on offer, which would have netted the punter £50,000 in profit in the event of a No rather than £36,667 had he actually placed it this month well over a third more.) Readers can speculate for themselves why the Record has chosen to run whats obviously an old story in an attempt to make it look like people are putting their money on a No vote. But were not taking any bets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 The 'Guilt Bombs' begin http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-27775468 "But if they don't do this the North of England is going to be at a serious disadvantage to the rest of Scotland." Dafuq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 "But if they don't do this the North of England is going to be at a serious disadvantage to the rest of Scotland." Dafuq? Did you read the previous quote? Mr Mason said: "There are a number of options open to the government. They could abolish APD altogether, or they can match any reductions made by Scotland." He's saying that if the government don't match the Scottish reductions, then English passengers could choose to fly out of Glasgow or Edinburgh instead of Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester etc. Not that anyone actually cares about this, but what he's saying makes sense from his point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Did you read the previous quote? He's saying that if the government don't match the Scottish reductions, then English passengers could choose to fly out of Glasgow or Edinburgh instead of Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester etc. Not that anyone actually cares about this, but what he's saying makes sense from his point of view. I think the dafuq was abut the term 'the rest of Scotland' - which somehow suggests that Newcastle is in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I think the dafuq was abut the term 'the rest of Scotland' - which somehow suggests that Newcastle is in Scotland. Your a good man. I wouldn't have the patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossHogg Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I see Janet Street Porter her bbc programme about Scotland asking if The Scottish hate the English?,,,,f**k off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I see Janet Street Porter her bbc programme about Scotland asking if The Scottish hate the English?,,,,f**k off. Not all of them. And not as a collective entity. But by god I hate that parasite Porter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I see Janet Street Porter her bbc programme about Scotland asking if The Scottish hate the English?,,,,f**k off. Hate the English? Never thought of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I see Janet Street Porter her bbc programme about Scotland asking if The Scottish hate the English?,,,,f**k off. Haven't seen it but apparently her conclusion is no. Which surprised her. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Henry McLeish giving Better Together a kicking on Scotland Tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Henry McLeish giving Better Together a kicking on Scotland Tonight. Operation " save Labour" has been activated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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