the jambo-rocker Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 If as many people would be driving up from The North-East as they claim then it probably mean finally making the road from Berwick to Newcastle into a dual carriageway at last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Haven't een this anywhere here, can see this getting a bit heated http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27795389 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Haven't een this anywhere here, can see this getting a bit heated http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27795389 Isn't she the women who turns out to be a Labour Party member and part of the shadow Scottish cabinet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Isn't she the women who turns out to be a Labour Party member and part of the shadow Scottish cabinet? I think the point is why a civil servant is emailing newspapers with misinformation about someone involved in a politcal campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Isn't she the women who turns out to be a Labour Party member and part of the shadow Scottish cabinet? Yep that's the one. http://wingsoverscotland.com/voters-less-ordinary/#more-56760 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Yep that's the one. http://wingsoverscotland.com/voters-less-ordinary/#more-56760 Yeah, Wings reached the same (incorrect) conclusion as the civil servant at roughly the same time. Curious stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Yeah, Wings reached the same (incorrect) conclusion as the civil servant at roughly the same time. Curious stuff. It came from this I believe http://www.jackiebaillie.co.uk/baillie-welcomes-clydebank-mum-of-the-year-to-labours-shadow-cab Plus all the pictures of her at Labour events and working for "United with Labour" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 It came from this I believe http://www.jackiebaillie.co.uk/baillie-welcomes-clydebank-mum-of-the-year-to-labours-shadow-cab Plus all the pictures of her at Labour events and working for "United with Labour" Wings and Campbell Gunn both said (or in Wings' case alleged) she was the daughter of a former Labour Provost, which isn't true. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10891229/Alex-Salmonds-office-implicated-in-smear-attack-on-mother-who-spoke-up-for-the-Union.html " Campbell Gunn, a senior special adviser and political spokesman for the Scottish Government, emailed this newspaper that she was a member of Labour’s Shadow Cabinet and the daughter-in-law of Pat Lally, a former Labour Lord Provost of Glasgow." Why is a Scottish Government civil servant emailing newspapers about the referendum campaign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Yeah, Wings reached the same (incorrect) conclusion as the civil servant at roughly the same time. Curious stuff. You'll forgive me if I don't pay any attention to your by-now vanished credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Haven't een this anywhere here, can see this getting a bit heated http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27795389 Bit humiliating for Salmond this. At least he's told him to say sorry, although he should be sacked too IMO. It really shows up the under current of personal abuse the yes campaign seems to be running on. It's all they've got left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Wings and Campbell Gunn both said (or in Wings' case alleged) she was the daughter of a former Labour Provost, which isn't true. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10891229/Alex-Salmonds-office-implicated-in-smear-attack-on-mother-who-spoke-up-for-the-Union.html " Campbell Gunn, a senior special adviser and political spokesman for the Scottish Government, emailed this newspaper that she was a member of Labour’s Shadow Cabinet and the daughter-in-law of Pat Lally, a former Labour Lord Provost of Glasgow." Why is a Scottish Government civil servant emailing newspapers about the referendum campaign? ^^^ monkey in a red rosette. If you'd read the Wings article, it initially stated she was the daughter in law of Pat Lally, but then retracted that, adding that she is a member of Labour's National Policy Forum for 2015. To try and pass her off as just a mum is misleading and incorrect. Swing and a miss for you again, Bants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Bit humiliating for Salmond this. At least he's told him to say sorry, although he should be sacked too IMO. It really shows up the under current of personal abuse the yes campaign seems to be running on. It's all they've got left. Do you really expect anyone to take those last two sentences seriously, Lex? Come on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Do you really expect anyone to take those last two sentences seriously, Lex? Come on now. You can stick your head in the sand if you like. Have a look at what's being said about her and JK Rowling on social media just now. It's pretty disgraceful and desperate stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 ^^^ monkey in a red rosette. If you'd read the Wings article, it initially stated she was the daughter in law of Pat Lally, but then retracted that, adding that she is a member of Labour's National Policy Forum for 2015. To try and pass her off as just a mum is misleading and incorrect. Swing and a miss for you again, Bants. Wings isn't the story, the story is a tax payer funded civil servant spreaidng misinformation about someone invovled in a poltical campaign. funnily enough, here's what Salmond thinks of her "The first minister said: "I've instructed the special adviser to apologise for any offence that's been caused by that - but she's not Pat Lally's daughter-in-law, she is an ordinary mother and she's absolutely entitled to express a view, as indeed every other person in Scotland is." " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 You can stick your head in the sand if you like. Have a look at what's being said about her and JK Rowling on social media just now. It's pretty disgraceful and desperate stuff. So it's all one way traffic? No one threw abuse in the direction of Chris and Colin Weir or portrayed them as pigs? Or did I imagine that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 So it's all one way traffic? No one threw abuse in the direction of Chris and Colin Weir or portrayed them as pigs? Or did I imagine that? I condemned that at the time and I do now. It's far more prevalent and mainstream from the yes side though, I'm sure you'll be rushing to condemn comments like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Wings isn't the story, the story is a tax payer funded civil servant spreaidng misinformation about someone invovled in a poltical campaign. funnily enough, here's what Salmond thinks of her "The first minister said: "I've instructed the special adviser to apologise for any offence that's been caused by that - but she's not Pat Lally's daughter-in-law, she is an ordinary mother and she's absolutely entitled to express a view, as indeed every other person in Scotland is." " So you suddenly think Salmond's alright now do you? Did I say Wings is the story? When it became clear that you can't see past Labour, no matter who stands for them or what they say, that's when I stopped giving a chimp's scrotum about your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I condemned that at the time and I do now. It's far more prevalent and mainstream from the yes side though, I'm sure you'll be rushing to condemn comments like this: ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1402488251.620161.jpg Those comments are absolutely disgraceful and cannot be condoned in any way shape or form. Social media, to my mind, is chock full of idiots and that's why I don't do social media. However, to suggest one side is worse than the other is just plain lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Wings and Campbell Gunn both said (or in Wings' case alleged) she was the daughter of a former Labour Provost, which isn't true. This is incorrect. . Wings isn't in the habit of publishing things which aren't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 So you suddenly think Salmond's alright now do you? Did I say Wings is the story? When it became clear that you can't see past Labour, no matter who stands for them or what they say, that's when I stopped giving a chimp's scrotum about your opinion. I think Salmond is an excellent poltician,and his comments on Claire Lally are pretty clear. What isn't clear is what Campbell Gunn was thinking when he sent that unsolcited email to the telegraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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