H_B Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Why does it matter? That'll be a No then, because you have made it up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Can you evidence this please? Someone once said it. Isn't that good enough for you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 It's not a leap, it's a nonsense. There are more groups fighting for a YES vote that are not under the YES campaign umbrella than there are groups under it, it's ludicrous for anyone to suggest otherwise. When I called it a leap I admit I was doing the Half_Baked one a kindness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 When I called it a leap I admit I was doing the Half_Baked one a kindness. I'm a call a spade a spade type of guy, not in a racist type way b4 some smart arse chips in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 1.) I was talking about Blackley 2.) "Some SNP guy designed one leaflet" is not what blackley was saying Well you were responding to a statement I made to H_B's clearly ludicrous position. I havent read Blackleys comments nor do I care. Do you agree with H_B's position that the SNP control YES? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) That'll be a No then, because you have made it upIs it as made up as your assertion that the SNP run the entire YES campaign? Edited June 26, 2014 by Burma 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Because people seem to feel a need to deny it - Its only inportant to you because others are denying it? Really? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Well you were responding to a statement I made to H_B's clearly ludicrous position. I havent read Blackleys comments nor do I care. Do you agree with H_B's position that the SNP control YES? H_B's postion is informed by Blackley's comments. go read them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) Its only inportant to you because others are denying it? Really? I wouldn't say improtant no. I find it very strange that yes voters want to downplay the role of the Scotland's top election winning party in the Yes Campaign in favour of the irrelavnce that are the SSP and the Greens, who have never won a constituency in Scotland despite having a national presence since 1999. It's the equiavalent of saying "No, Pep Guardiola isn't picking the team, Davie Moyes is" Edited June 26, 2014 by banterman86 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Is it as made up as your assertion that the SNP run the entire YES campaign? No it isn't. I have provided very specific points on the SNP domination of Yes. I'm asking you to evidence similarly your claim that the Tories run BT... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I wouldn't say improtant no. I find it very strange that yes voters want to downplay the role of the Scotland's top election winning party in the Yes Campaign in favour of the irrelavnce which si the SSP and the Greens, who have never won a constituency in Scotland decide having a national presence since 1999. It's the equiavalent of saying "No, Pep Guardiola isn't picking the team, Davie Moyes is" How is strange to downplay it? The SNP may well have a degree of control over certain factions fighting for a YES vote but it doesn't have control of the majority of groups fighting for a YES vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 the majority of groups fighting for a YES vote. Being in charge of 1 group with 1,000,000 members and not in charge of the other 9 groups of 10 people each doesn't mean you are in charge of 10% of the campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 How is strange to downplay it? Because the SNP are very good at winning elections. You should be happy they are in control of the campaign because they know how to win campaigns. Harvie and Fox wanted a seperate scottish currency and a scottish republic. the SNP overruled both so as not to spook middle scotland voter who they need in sepetmber, and who they have owned since 2007. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Because the SNP are very good at winning elections. You should be happy they are in control of the campaign because they know how to win campaigns. Harvie and Fox wanted a seperate scottish currency and a scottish republic. the SNP overruled both so as not to spook middle scotland voter who they need in sepetmber, and who they have owned since 2007. Canavan (the Chairman of Yes Scotland's advisory board) also called for a new currency. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 H_B's postion is informed by Blackley's comments. go read them. No im asking you if you agree with HB that the SNP are running the entire YES campaign and anyone who is not affiliated to the SNP has no input. Do you agree with him or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Being in charge of 1 group with 1,000,000 members and not in charge of the other 9 groups of 10 people each doesn't mean you are in charge of 10% of the campaign. Those 1,000,000 members are made up of people from every area of the YES campaign, you don't need to give up your membership of SSP, RIC, LFI etc to sign up with the official YES campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 No im asking you if you agree with HB that the SNP are running the entire YES campaign and anyone who is not affiliated to the SNP has no input. Do you agree with him or not? Where did I say that anyone not affiliated to the SNP had "no input". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Now, your evidence that the Tories run the No campaign. Where is it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Because the SNP are very good at winning elections. You should be happy they are in control of the campaign because they know how to win campaigns. Harvie and Fox wanted a seperate scottish currency and a scottish republic. the SNP overruled both so as not to spook middle scotland voter who they need in sepetmber, and who they have owned since 2007. You're only talking about what's happening in the MSM, on the ground YES aren't even in total control of their own campaign nevermind the SSP etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 No it isn't. I have provided very specific points on the SNP domination of Yes. I'm asking you to evidence similarly your claim that the Tories run BT... No you havent. You have pointed to donations and creative input. This is not the same as providing evidence that the SNP control the ENTIRE YES campaign, which someone else pointed out was a nonsense statement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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