Blue-Toon Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Classic example here : http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gbgrp Scroll to 27 mins and listen to Ian from Burnley. "50% of that country doesn't want to be part of England or be English" . Thanks for that vital statistic Ian. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I thought it was going to be the part when Jeremy Vine suggested that Faslane might get hired out to the Russians. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevthedee Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Cheers but I can't find any mention of it on sky twitter it not on the sky news website either so its a load of crap 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Don't trade with them - we want nothing to do with them! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Seems really pointless now I've typed this out to be fair. have a greenie for your effort 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 it not on the sky news website either so its a load of crap Aye, the bastion of fairness that is Sky News. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-MAN Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If you believe the MSM I will lose my job over this (i work in the Financial Services sector) Yet I walk home from work in Glasgow with my Yes badge and wristband on display. Of course I may be out of pocket slightly, who knows. I have morals. Illegal wars, phone hacking, media manipulation, the demise of industry, expense scandals, mp pay rises, multi national tax avoidances, Not to mention a Boris/Farage coming to you soon. I am proud of a country that accepts anyone, no matter colour, nationality or class. I hope the selfish No voters are proud of themselves supporting an immoral government for short term financial gain, because at the end of it all that is the only argument they have. Worst case scenario Forget a few extra quid in your monthly wage Forget a few extra quid in your pension Sleep well, there are so many others in the world who are a hell of a lot worse off than ourselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The extended STV news had a 'panel' of three doubtfuls in Dundee who were all veering towards NO. Everything else we are hearing and experiencing suggests this is bullshit. How do they pick these folk? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The extended STV news had a 'panel' of three doubtfuls in Dundee who were all veering towards NO. Everything else we are hearing and experiencing suggests this is bullshit. How do they pick these folk? I'm beyond sick of this muck from these b*****ds. It's just been a constant drip drip drip of manipulative, orchestrated shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The boy further up the thread is right, forget the polls. Vote Yes (Or No) with you fully believing that you're not just doing the best for yourself, but the best for future generations. Even if I disagree with your views, as long as you've not been swamped by the mass media campaign and essentially doing what they seem to be instructing you to do then you have my goodwill. Except Rangers fans, as we all know they have differing reasons in the main for voting No. TL;DR I'm absolutely bricking it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Faisal Aslam - Sky News Political Editor on twitter - important No campaigner was "bereft" at internal polling, said it was already getting tighter before 2nd debate.. & Dundee lost, and Glasgow looking likely too... Difficult reception amongst labour voters on the doorstep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I'm surprised that so many have declared for YES. However... The full force of the British State (BS) was felt today and it will persist. Yesterday's promise of lovely devo has given way to fear fear fear. I hope our resolve is not so fragile as to be compromised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philyerboots Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I'm a wee bit disappointed by the negativity that's creeping in. By all accounts the momentum is still with the YES campaign, I don't think we should allow one poll to distract from that. It was one poll that gave all you Yes folk the gumption to rubbish the No campaign. . not so c.ock sure now Eh! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) So the momentum is swinging towards No again. Think there will be a few swings back and forward though. Of the 6 Scots in my office it's now all 6 in the No camp after the undecided person voted No. Hardly surprising though when it's 6 people from the borders all working in England. Edited September 10, 2014 by BerwickMad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 It was one poll that gave all you Yes folk the gumption to rubbish the No campaign. . not so c.ock sure now Eh! Please point to one of my posts that show me as being cock sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Classic example here : http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gbgrp Scroll to 27 mins and listen to Ian from Burnley. "It's a democracy: we don't like them, we can get rid of them." What a sensible and erudite man. I am basing this on the fact I think I had a stroke while he was speaking prior to this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorge Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Watching anything classified as 'news' over the last two days about this referendum - jaw dropping. As of yesterday, the politics of fear is really in full flow from the establishment. Every untruth, manipulation, exaggeration, disaster scenario and orchestration all designed to question every aspect of your logical and emotional thought processes are all going to be thrown at you over the next eight days. It's exactly what they want: don't buy it, and get them telt on the 18th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 it's got nothing to do with "The British State". It's about taking a gamble that could either work out well or have disastrous consequences. I would err on the side of caution and that's got nothing to do with supporting any political parties. It's a No for economic stability in the short to mid term and see how things improve. If they don't I'll rethink it. When in the name of fvck are you going to re-think it? Cameron made the point that this isn't a general election. There won't be a re-think. Vote No by all means but be ready to suck up the shite that will flow for generations to come. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boabinoban Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 See when people start using evidence and facts? Does my heid in so it does! Evidence and facts have gone right out the window as far as today was concerned from the No camp. I'm sounding like I need a tin foil hat here but it wasn't about facts today. It was about a propaganda machine at work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Watching anything classified as 'news' over the last two days about this referendum - jaw dropping. As of yesterday, the politics of fear is really in full flow from the establishment. Every untruth, manipulation, exaggeration, disaster scenario and orchestration all designed to question every aspect of your logical and emotional thought processes are all going to be thrown at you over the next eight days. It's exactly what they want: don't buy it, and get them telt on the 18th. Ran out of greenies, but a brilliant, succinct post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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