Ross. Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 These stories? Have you links to them? I'll do a bit of digging on them afterwards http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-29202726 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-29006306 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28969671 Look at the top two and look at the third, then tell me there is no bias. The facts were as well known in terms of which side everyone was in in every case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPSAFalkirkFirm Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 The more polls come out and the more I read online, I reckon the result is going to be something like 47.5% Yes, 52.5% No. I want to be wrong, but I'm not particularly optimistic. Firstly, the official polls haven't a clue what's going on at the moment. there following the same techniques that were applied fifty years ago. Everywhere I look on social media there's an overwhelming favour toward YES. Secondly, there's a massive percentage of the registered vote who haven't voted before, in any political vote. General elections muster about 60-65% of registered voters, local elections are often half that. With 97% of voters registered we're surely looking at 90% voting tomorrow. So that means the best part of a third of these voters are unknown to the pollsters. A lot of the pollsters results are based on algorithms and historical data, completely useless in this event. Thirdly, if pollsters were so believable why is there such a variance in outcomes. Fourthly, if pollsters were any use at all why did they get it so magnificently wrong at the last Scottish election. The pollsters repeatedly showed the Lib Dems running neck and neck with Labour at the last UK election. On the night, Labour had 29% of the vote and LD only 23%. Most awful statistic for last. The Tories mustered 36% of a 65% turnout, meaning less than 24% of the population voted for what we have today. There's got to be a better way than that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Banterous really is a c**t's c**t isn't he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Don't feed the troll folks. No interest in debate or reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-29202726 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-29006306 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28969671 Look at the top two and look at the third, then tell me there is no bias. The facts were as well known in terms of which side everyone was in in every case. Sorry but I would need evidence that the assaults were on Yes campaigners. You can choose to disbelieve me but how do you know this and through who (no specifics) It sounds to me as if there where two groups of a**eholes and the police couldn't assign blame. I'm sure that's the case 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Can we please start ignoring these obvious trolls? This forum has gone to hell in the last few weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Banterous really is a c**t's c**t isn't he? You really are a childish pathetic man aren't you? Look at the way you talk to people man fgs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Can we please start ignoring these obvious trolls? This forum has gone to hell in the last few weeks. Oaksoft or confidemus? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Total hilarity, I've been looking for this video for years! Quality satire, swingometers and all. Haven't found the bit I'm talking about yet, but it's on Youtube... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Sorry but I would need evidence that the assaults were on Yes campaigners. You can choose to disbelieve me but how do you know this and through who (no specifics) It sounds to me as if there where two groups of a**eholes and the police couldn't assign blame. I'm sure that's the case I'm out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I'm out. Me too. He's on ignore now. Final straw an all that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I don't know if this has been mentioned, but I just found the following: http://endpropaganda.wordpress.com/2014/09/02/scottish-referendum-poll/ You can stick your Yougovs, your Survations and your IPSOS/Mori's. Here's a poll with almost 65,000 respondents: I live in Scotland and will be voting YES 72.59% (46,993 votes) I live in Scotland and will be voting NO 16.04% (10,386 votes) If I could vote I'd vote YES 7.29% (4,719 votes) If I could vote I'd vote NO 4.07% (2,636 votes) Total Votes: 64,734 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 You can vote as many times as you wish on that poll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 You can vote as many times as you wish on that poll. Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!! Surely not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I don't think it lets you vote more than once. I voted yes, noted the number of no's then voted no. Didn't increase! Also if you read the comments under the poll the mediator says its set up to calculate only one vote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtuggie Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Anyone seen or voted in Kiltr poll? They are currently trending on twitter and have been on BBC news as well.https://www.kiltr.com/referendum/1774675904Sample size is up to 6500 and about 90% yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I don't think a social media led poll can be taken over seriously given the vast difference in social media support of the two campaigns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I don't think a social media led poll can be taken over seriously given the vast difference in social media support of the two campaigns. We've had people claiming Facebook likes are an important indicator in this referendum. A true sign that the barrel has been scraped and the pavement underneath it is being attacked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Interesting post from Scot goes Pop: ICM hasn't weighted by country of birth, which is actually a strong indicator of voting preference (unsurprisingly) with other UK born being one of the largest breaks to no avaialble to the pollsters. They've got 16% in their poll as opposed to the 8% there actually is, which if you recalcuate does narrow the gap slightly from 48/52 to 49/51. Using the turnout filter (some pollsters use this, others don't) then you get to 50/50. Having said that he's predicting a lead for no in the YG poll later today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtuggie Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) I don't think a social media led poll can be taken over seriously given the vast difference in social media support of the two campaigns. We've had people claiming Facebook likes are an important indicator in this referendum. A true sign that the barrel has been scraped and the pavement underneath it is being attacked. Absolutely right. I just thought it was interesting that it was featured on the BBC and the fact that the sample size went from 3000 to 6500 in about a day. Edited September 17, 2014 by Shtuggie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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