welshbairn Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 That may well be true. As I say we're about 2/3 the way through this season though (average of 22 out of 34 games played) - but only about 1/2 of the thrashings have involved Brora dishing them out, or Fort William or Rothes receiving them, or both. I'm clashing a thrashing as one team winning by 5+ goals (i.e. 5-0, 6-1, 6-0 etc.). There have been 38 such... As I say there have been another 15 with 5+ goals scored but lower margins (i.e. 5-1, 5-2, 6-2, etc.). I believe Fort William have a backlog of 9 postponed fixtures so far, so the stats could change. Anyway, at least we're getting a lot of goals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Shaker Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I can remember Lossie conceding 9 and scoring in the space of a couple of seasons. 69 out of 204 league games so far have been decided by a single goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC13 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Most of the gubbings in the last few years have involved 3 teams, Rothes (this season), Fort William and Brora. There are usually lots of competitive, entertaining games on a Saturday. One factor that makes for wildly different performances from week to week is the number of players working offshore or in jobs where they can't always get time off. Makes for fun betting. Believe it or not the second half(missed the 1st) of Clach's thrashing by Brora was good to watch, Clach were still fighting away and got a cracking goal. P.S. I was unlucky enough to see Falkirk lose 7-1 to Ross County a couple of months ago, not too long after being close to winning the Scottish Cup. That was much more cringeworthy to watch. You're being kind to Falkirk by giving them the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 So Banks O'Dee are again champions of the Junior North Region League, with no promotion in sight. Surely the SFA must provide a feeder system in the north of Scotland soon. With the North Caledonian League electing 2 more clubs to its league for 2016/17, and a rumour that Banks is not the only northern junior club with aspirations to join the 'seniors', it is surely time that this hole in the "pyramid" was addressed. Given the problems of travel and climate in the north and north east of Scotland, the solution is surely to accept the NCL (from Inverness to Orkney) as one half of a pyramid feeder league, whilst inviting teams east & south of Inverness, to join a new NCL (East) feeder, open to junior and amateur clubs. At the end of each season, the top team in each NCL regional division, would have a play-off with promotion to the Highland League,providing they meet the licensing and floodlights criteria. The bottom HFL club would be relegated to the North or East NCL division, as dictated by geography. A phased reduction from 18 to16 Highland League clubs, would also be helpful. The above would avoid the need to split the Highland League into 2 divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Shaker Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 The only problem with travelling is that all the clubs are whining like bitches about it these days. Never used to be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
info Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Cost of bus hire is disproportionaty higher than back in the"good old days" I would say. Plus with jobs harder to find it does'nt seem so easy to get time off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 What - if anything - happened in the end with the Stables Plan, the "Gangs of 8 / 9 / 10", the threats of a breakaway, and all that stuff? In the end Cove didn't go up plus East Stirlingshire went down; but there were official statements saying the regulations for splitting (or not) at 19 or 21 should be put in place in advance of next season... There was also talk of pro-split clubs trying to force 10-9 or 10-10 through for next season regardless, and obviously that didn't happen. Has anything resolved or is battle likely to recommence sometime next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowenan Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Banks O'Dee not having any road in, is probably the single worst part of the Scottish pyramid. They are licensed, willing, and even Northern Junior champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 were B O'D basically not knocked back as they might actually have won a few games? scandalous that they have been frozen out, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 At the time of HL expansion in 2009 they were twice-running champions of the North Juniors and had finished their stadium including floodlights, stand and so on; don't think they had 3G at that time. They'd beaten Fort William 10-0 in the Scottish Cup and reached the Final of the Aberdeenshire Shield (they'd been Aberdeenshire FA members since 2006) beating Buckie 3-1 and Huntly 6-1. I'll copy their competitive results v HL clubs below. They were also members of the Aberdeenshire U20 League. That same season Turriff ended 12th - avoiding relegation on GD; Formartine finished 2nd in the 2nd tier; plus Strathspey finished 3rd in the 2nd tier. Most / all of those still had groundworks pending. Three of the four were elected - and BoD missed out. As I recall the only 'explanation' offered - other than that they were too good and/or would have attracted players from other Aberdeenshire clubs - was that they fully expected to be elected and hadn't lobbied hard enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Banks o'Dee senior competition results: Aberdeenshire Cup 2006-07 Banks o'Dee 1-2 Keith Aberdeenshire Shield 2006-07 Keith 3-1 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Cup 2007-08 Deveronvale 5-3 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Shield 2007-08 Banks o'Dee 4-1 Aberdeen University Banks o'Dee 3-5 Fraserburgh Scottish Cup 2008-09 Banks o'Dee 10-0 Fort William Inverurie Loco Works 5-1 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Cup 2008-09 Keith 5-0 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Shield 2008-09 Banks o'Dee 3-1 Buckie Thistle (aet) Banks o'Dee 6-1 Huntly (Final) Banks o'Dee 0-2 Cove Rangers Scottish Cup 2009-10 Rothes 1-5 Banks o'Dee Banks o'Dee 0-3 Montrose Aberdeenshire Cup 2009-10 did not enter Aberdeenshire Shield 2009-10 Banks o'Dee 2-3 Fraserburgh Aberdeenshire Cup 2010-11 Formartine Utd 2-1 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Shield 2010-11 Banks o'Dee 1-5 Cove Rangers Aberdeenshire Cup 2011-12 Huntly 1-2 Banks o'Dee Deveronvale 5-0 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Shield 2011-12 Banks o'Dee 3-1 Aberdeen Turriff Utd 0-0 Banks o'Dee (aet, 0-3p) (Final) Fraserburgh 5-0 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Cup 2012-13 Buckie Thistle 1-0 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Shield 2012-13 Buckie Thistle 3-1 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Cup 2013-14 Inverurie Loco Works 5-1 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Shield 2013-14 Cove Rangers 4-2 Banks o'Dee Scottish Cup 2014-15 Rothes 0-4 Banks o'Dee Brora Rangers 5-0 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Cup 2014-15 Huntly 0-1 Banks o'Dee Fraserburgh 5-0 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Shield 2014-15 Banks o'Dee 1-2 Peterhead (aet, 1-1) Scottish Cup 2015-16 Banks o'Dee 2-3 Cove Rangers Aberdeenshire Cup 2015-16 Huntly 1-4 Banks o'Dee Inverurie Loco Works 4-1 Banks o'Dee Aberdeenshire Shield 2015-16 Turriff Utd 4-0 Banks o'Dee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Shaker Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 The excuses given up about BOD at the time was indeed that their expectation of being elected counted against them, and their previous successes, venue, etc., counted for less than Formartine heid bummer Atholl Cadger making the effort to drive to places like Brora and get the drams in pre-match in a bid to try and impress folk. The real reason, as everyone knows, is that too many clubs were shit-scared of BOD coming in and motoring up the league, getting decent Shire players in and competing deep into cup competitions. So for reasons no-one really understands, they let a far richer Formartine United in in their place. Who have since motored up the league, got decent Shire players in, and gone deep into cup competitions. Perhaps the clubs were of the impression that Formartine and Turriff would lose interest and the money might run out, rendering both stuck in mid-table forever more, but there's been no sign of that happening. Turriff and Formartine have both achieved top two finishes and lifted trophies, and the former now have one of the better grounds in the league, so in all their election doesn't look as ridiculous now as it did then. Both have achieved more than several clubs in the league have in many a year, my own included. The election of Strathspey Thistle over BOD, or at all, is the one you should really be questioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Shaker Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I was completely against a two team league when Stables first presented it, but it looks like it might be required to stop this league from going completely down the pan. We've a champion with no ground, a club who less than a year ago were days from liquidation, another that's had all their money removed in the past fortnight, and a procession of works teams spending fortunes to try and buy a title that comes with four figure prize money. And because the rest of the clubs know there's no point trying, they're mostly going backwards. AAAAAND because we let in three teams to give us 18 again, and quickly signed up to the play-offs, despite almost every club wanting nothing to do with it, we're left cramming in 34 games into cold midweeks all through winter. The whole operation is a shambles. Damned if I'm going to support a plan for two ten team leagues tho. Gimme 14's as a minimum and I'm on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I was completely against a two team league when Stables first presented it, but it looks like it might be required to stop this league from going completely down the pan. We've a champion with no ground, a club who less than a year ago were days from liquidation, another that's had all their money removed in the past fortnight, and a procession of works teams spending fortunes to try and buy a title that comes with four figure prize money. And because the rest of the clubs know there's no point trying, they're mostly going backwards. AAAAAND because we let in three teams to give us 18 again, and quickly signed up to the play-offs, despite almost every club wanting nothing to do with it, we're left cramming in 34 games into cold midweeks all through winter. The whole operation is a shambles. Damned if I'm going to support a plan for two ten team leagues tho. Gimme 14's as a minimum and I'm on board. 30 Games will be the minimum that the SPFL will agree to, losing 5 home gates for a relegated club will be a big hit for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLichtie86 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 If they would change it to a 16 - 14 league setup, how would clubs and fans react to that. Would reduce the amount of games to 30 / 26 for clubs involved and would free up much needed space to include the cup games also. Over the course of the seeason the League and Cup fixtures seem awfully cramped at times. Would also allow clubs a buffer between senior and juniour football, give the likes of BOD, etc a chance to step up and for clubs to drop down to a level more suited to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 If they would change it to a 16 - 14 league setup, how would clubs and fans react to that. Would reduce the amount of games to 30 / 26 for clubs involved and would free up much needed space to include the cup games also. Over the course of the seeason the League and Cup fixtures seem awfully cramped at times. Would also allow clubs a buffer between senior and juniour football, give the likes of BOD, etc a chance to step up and for clubs to drop down to a level more suited to them. That could work in principle but it would mean no promotion for the East and West division champions the first year. Maybe better to go for 16/16. I wouldn't want the HL to go below 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGafraidh Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I know we are all beating the same drum here but my favored (for what it is worth) is a 16 team HFL1 and a 12-16 (depends on teams we can muster) HFL2 (or HFL east and west) allowing the ones who want to progress the chance to do so and teh ones who have their level to stay where they are. Get interested Junior teams and NCL teams in and then we have a proper pyramid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 HL could quite simply connect-up with the North Juniors with their 14-team Superleague, and relegate bottom 2 HL clubs to rebalance as 2 divisions of 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 The trouble is that then, if the juniors are all eventually brought into the pyramid, you'd basically have the top Northern juniors sitting a level higher than the other juniors who would, presumably, feed into the EOS/SOS Leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 HL could quite simply connect-up with the North Juniors with their 14-team Superleague, and relegate bottom 2 HL clubs to rebalance as 2 divisions of 16. Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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