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Baldie1980 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Rotating was absolutely the right thing to do. If we get to the Europa Conference groups then nobody is going to give a f**k about the league cup this season. What is has shown is that several of the squad players are not good enough. 100% rite Europe far more important,if we can get to group stages who gives a flying f**k about today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldie1980 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Speak for yourself. The cups are our bread and butter, Europe is a bonus, for me. We need bodies in, as we've said for weeks, centre half and up front, as soon as possible. how much money will we make in Europe group stages compared to cup [emoji848] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 44 minutes ago, CCB19035 said: Speak for yourself. The cups are our bread and butter, Europe is a bonus, for me. We need bodies in, as we've said for weeks, centre half and up front, as soon as possible. We’ve got to be realistic here. The club need to get as much money in as possible and, at the moment, the priority has to be to do everything we can to get into the group stages of the Conference League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: I know we all like to overexaggerate after a defeat but that's a bit much. It’s not far wrong. Scottish football has plenty of teams that are good at spoiling other teams rhythm and attacking play. If teams can do that to you and you’re gifting them 3 or 4 good quality chances in every game you have a serious problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Has McGeouch ever played a decisive pass or had a shot at goal? Maybe even made a penetrating run or even just a bit of movement to create space for others? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: It’s not far wrong. Scottish football has plenty of teams that are good at spoiling other teams rhythm and attacking play. If teams can do that to you and you’re gifting them 3 or 4 good quality chances in every game you have a serious problem. A confidence sapping defeat against Raith will do far more damage to our chances against Qarabag than an extra game for a few of our better players. For all his good start this season Glass won't last long if he can't sort out the defence. Those are the parts I was referring to. For me, our two worst attacking performances have been against Livi and today. In both games we've played McGeouch in the 'Brown' role. He is far too happy to take the ball under no pressure then immediately give it back to Gallagher. Pointless. He's not taken anyone out of position and all he's managed to do is let the opposition get back in to their shape. Brown takes the ball under pressure and creates a gap further forward that the defender can then pass in to. A far bigger issue for me at the moment than the defence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: A confidence sapping defeat against Raith will do far more damage to our chances against Qarabag than an extra game for a few of our better players. For all his good start this season Glass won't last long if he can't sort out the defence. Those are the parts I was referring to. For me, our two worst attacking performances have been against Livi and today. In both games we've played McGeouch in the 'Brown' role. He is far too happy to take the ball under no pressure then immediately give it back to Gallagher. Pointless. He's not taken anyone out of position and all he's managed to do is let the opposition get back in to their shape. Brown takes the ball under pressure and creates a gap further forward that the defender can then pass in to. A far bigger issue for me at the moment than the defence. Gifting 3 or 4 chances a game isn’t just an issue of the back 4. I agree that mcgeouch isn’t giving us either the protection brown does or the transitions we need either. It’s all part of it. As ultimately without the transitions we’ll end up conceding possession in dangerous areas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 An absolute disaster of a day. Out the first cup at the first hurdle. Hayes looks goosed. Hedges looks like he will be out for weeks. Should ensure he doesn’t transfer anywhere on this window, but also if he doesn’t sign a new contract then it means losing him for nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: A confidence sapping defeat against Raith will do far more damage to our chances against Qarabag than an extra game for a few of our better players. For all his good start this season Glass won't last long if he can't sort out the defence. Those are the parts I was referring to. For me, our two worst attacking performances have been against Livi and today. In both games we've played McGeouch in the 'Brown' role. He is far too happy to take the ball under no pressure then immediately give it back to Gallagher. Pointless. He's not taken anyone out of position and all he's managed to do is let the opposition get back in to their shape. Brown takes the ball under pressure and creates a gap further forward that the defender can then pass in to. A far bigger issue for me at the moment than the defence. Should also say if we recruited another centre half then mccrorie would be a good option in that sitting role ahead of mcgeouch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game of throw-ins Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: A confidence sapping defeat against Raith will do far more damage to our chances against Qarabag than an extra game for a few of our better players. For all his good start this season Glass won't last long if he can't sort out the defence. Those are the parts I was referring to. For me, our two worst attacking performances have been against Livi and today. In both games we've played McGeouch in the 'Brown' role. He is far too happy to take the ball under no pressure then immediately give it back to Gallagher. Pointless. He's not taken anyone out of position and all he's managed to do is let the opposition get back in to their shape. Brown takes the ball under pressure and creates a gap further forward that the defender can then pass in to. A far bigger issue for me at the moment than the defence. I don't see any exaggeration. Everybody agrees confidence is massive in football. Until the Raith game there was a feelgood factor at play that would have stood us in good stead against Qarabag. That will have largely evaporated. I have not the slightest doubt that if we'd played our full strength team today and won the game we'd be going into the next game in a much better frame of mind, which would have mattered for more than a couple of key players having played an extra game. As for my point about the defence, I think it's simple common sense. I think we'll find it harder to score in Scotland than we have so far in Europe. We won't have a good season with a leaky defence. It's a results driven game and if Glass doesn't find solutions he won't last. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Should also say if we recruited another centre half then mccrorie would be a good option in that sitting role ahead of mcgeouch. Is McCrorie good enough on the ball to be the focal point though? McGeouch has the talent but lacks the confidence IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbrush1903 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: He’s a willing runner but his crossing is dreadful and his defending today is pretty unforgivable to be honest. I’d happily never see him play again. Gurr was at fault for both goals but I think this is an over reaction. *Partially at fault, I should say. The defending was pretty poor for the free kick. I would need to see the second goal again, it was at the opposite side of the ground and I can't recall it fully. Edited August 15, 2021 by Bogbrush1903 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: He’s a willing runner but his crossing is dreadful and his defending today is pretty unforgivable to be honest. I’d happily never see him play again. He’s shite, let’s be honest. At 26, he’s hardly played a senior game at a serious level. There’s a reason for that. He cost us both goals & the cup tie. The less we see of him, the better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbrush1903 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Thenorthernlight said: He’s shite, let’s be honest. At 26, he’s hardly played a senior game at a serious level. There’s a reason for that. He cost us both goals & the cup tie. The less we see of him, the better. He cost us the cup tie all by himself did he? I can't recall us creating many chances in the second half Edited August 15, 2021 by Bogbrush1903 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bogbrush1903 said: He cost us the cup tie all by himself did he? I can't recall us creating many chances in the second half He cost us both their goals. No defending how abysmal he was in that 2nd half 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenorthernlight Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bogbrush1903 said: Gurr was at fault for both goals but I think this is an over reaction. *Partially at fault, I should say. The defending was pretty poor for the free kick. I would need to see the second goal again, it was at the opposite side of the ground and I can't recall it fully. He gave away the free kick. He dropped the man who scored from the free kick. He defended like a schoolboy at the 2nd goal, letting the ball come across him instead of clearing with his left. Basic stuff. He should’ve been sent off. Apart from that he was great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Bad day at the office for Gurzo. Not the only one though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Gurr in the first half looked decent in a functioning side and managed to pop in a couple of bonnie crosses that deserved someone on the end of them.However, his lack of basic defending on three occasions - getting done easily for the free kick at the first, then at both goals, ultimately cost the team today.As a professional footballer, he will absolutely cringe at the second goal surely?……..or do you get half an hour to wait for the ball in your own box when playing for the Chattanooga Cherry Pit Spitters? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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