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The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23


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11 minutes ago, DrewDon said:

I would happily have a 'proper' Director of Football in place. It would both take some accountability and responsibility away from Cormack. Ideally, though, this should precede the appointment of the next manager, especially if the manager would be reporting into them rather than Cormack. It would probably be a fairly long process, though, and if results continue to slide then the pressure will be on to get a permanent manager in sooner rather than later. 

Our approach to reorganising the 'football structure' since 2021 has been a bit odd. That's why I think the criticism of Gunn has maybe been a bit unjustified. His role is still a bit ambiguous to me, but he definitely isn't a DoF in the way that would be recognised in Germany or at some clubs in England. It is like we are in a halfway house between more traditional and modern models, but we have been wanting to shortcut it and don't really want to do the necessary to make the latter work properly. Either that, or Cormack is reluctant to surrender the necessary amount of control at the moment to make it work. 

Aye, we’re neither one thing or anither - time tae be brave and radical 

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Goodwin got the Dons job too early. He inherited a brilliant Alloa team from Jack Ross and spent the first year making it worse. We went from top of League 1 to the bottom in that first year. He was fortunate Alloa were patient. He ultimately cracked it by going back to the Ross template and adding 2 or 3 good young loans from the Premier League each window, which was a great success. He was clearly a good leader and respected, and he did make some very successful calls and signings, but in terms of building a team he  relied a lot on what was already there. He also made some bizarre decisions like shrinking the dimensions of the park while playing a passing style with good wide players.

His St Mirren spell after leaving us seemed pretty up and down. Hard to see how he earned a job like Aberdeen really, stars really aligned for him with timing in that respect. He'd have needed a lot of support and time I think, but ultimately just looks like too big a job too soon. Feel sorry for him, he always came across as a good guy and he does have some of the qualities required. Does have an eye for a player too, he signed 3 of those Darvel players for Alloa, including Meggat and Kirkpatrick who were terrific against Aberdeen. 

 

 

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15 hours ago, tarapoa said:

Correct - there is nothing entertaining watching your team lose easy goals.

Each time the club have tried something different to move from a consistent upper end of the table side to the 'next level'  (often due to fans' apparent boredom) eg  1994, 2009, 2021  - it invariably means we turn into a side that loses easy goals, and regress significantly.

Saw it coming a mile off two years back - and here we are, back into the embarrassing cup results and cricket score defeats.   Of course, it doesn't have to be like this, but it's deja vu.

We were embarrassing at the end of Derek's tenure, let's not do this again.

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16 hours ago, tarapoa said:

Correct - there is nothing entertaining watching your team lose easy goals.

Each time the club have tried something different to move from a consistent upper end of the table side to the 'next level'  (often due to fans' apparent boredom) eg  1994, 2009, 2021  - it invariably means we turn into a side that loses easy goals, and regress significantly.

Saw it coming a mile off two years back - and here we are, back into the embarrassing cup results and cricket score defeats.   Of course, it doesn't have to be like this, but it's deja vu.

The problem in 94, '09 and '21 is because we made a complete bollocks up of who we appointed to take us to the next level.

I accept that we need to be able to adapt to games like Livingston and St Johnstone away in the arse end of winter where we need to shitfest out a result, but that doesn't need to be at the expense of quality, flair, pace, creativity as our default setting.

It's difficult to get it right, but Cormack hasn't really tried yet - giving it to his best mate followed by a flavour of the month appointment.

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3 hours ago, Merkland Red said:

We were embarrassing at the end of Derek's tenure, let's not do this again.

Clue was I said 'it doesn't have to be like that'.

Just that for one reason another when AFC try something radical, it always seems to go horribly wrong.

We should always ensure we're solid first and foremost - whenever the eye is taken off the ball in that respect, big problems start - unless possibly you have the budget of the weegie freakshows, where they will get away with it. 

I actually thought Goodwin would address the porous nature of the team - but how wrong can you be?  It's arguably as bad as Skovdahl's first season now.

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What a horrible last 7 days along how bad although it has been terrible since the resumption of the fitba. Always sad to see a manager get sacked and Goodwin seem decent lad but had to go. Thought Cormark interview on Saturday was very good and one that it shows he is one of us. 

Looks like Robson will be in charge at least for 2 or 3 weeks especially taking in Steve Agnew on a temporary deal. 

Confidence is shot so the game tomorrow is critical to get back to basics, work hard and hopefully get 3 points. 

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