The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23

[Sortmeout]

3 hours ago, Donte Polvara said:

Wasn't meant to be an attack on Kilmarnock obviously with the money we can spend we should be the better team especially at home. He's doing at decent job with yous, similar to what he did with us steadied the ship and made you difficult to play against (at home at least). We clearly hit a ceiling with him after a while and that ceiling was lowering as Rangers, Hearts and Hibs got the finger out. I'd rather keep on with Robson than bring McInnes back to play the same way but (maybe) slightly better. Not to mention that he's completely at odds with the way the club is now run particularly with recruitment. Almost all our signings under McInnes were british or irish. Partly because of the scouting network at the time but I also think it was his way of keeping things close knit in the dressing room.

No I didn’t really take is an attack on us but probably more of an attack on him.

For what is worth I don’t think Aberdeen should be looking to McInnes. I think his time there is done. However in terms of an experienced manager (Scottish or not) who is gettable and not a gamble then it’s hard to see past him.

It feels as if the managers role is just something Cormack has never got right. If he wants Aberdeen to be a real success (and he seems to have sorted a lot of good stuff out off the field) then he needs to pick a manager who knows what he is doing. If he hadn’t been out of the managerial game for so long then I personally think someone like Gordan Strachan would’ve been a good shout. I do kind of feel that his time has passed now though. 

Neil Lennon would’ve fit the bill to be honest if this was 2018 and not 2023.

I don’t have anywhere near the knowledge of the English lower leagues or European leagues like others do to suggest a name but these days I feel like an English championship level manager is just out of reach for all the non-of clubs.  For someone like Tony Mowbray he would still need to take a big drop in wages to join Aberdeen which means that even if he did great and won himself a move back to the Championship he would probably be reducing his future salary demands for the rest of his career.

ETA - I know this maybe contradicts my point above a bit but if there was a modern day version of Ebbe Skohvdahl in terms of experience, reputation, age etc kicking about in Norway or Denmark then I would love to see Aberdeen taking that route. Or even someone from Eastern Europe to help them continue to exploit that market.

Edited December 7, 2023 by Sortmeout

[Bigmouth Strikes Again]

Should've punted beardy and given the Doc the job, (obviously the brains behind the operation) done an outstanding job at Dens, well pleased.

Thank you.

[Moorie]

6 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

It's like Groundhog Day but the over a season time frame.

Each season around Christmas the inexperienced Aberdeen manager's jacket peg becomes shoogly.

Robson needs to go but the elephant in the room is Cormack.

I believe he's still interfering in team affairs (some of the signings have been bizarre and obviously not Robson's choice), he's definitely still appointing/promoting the wrong people and giving them the remit of mere 'yes' men.

Unless something horrendous happens then he's unlikely to leave before the mid-season break.

My which time the season is going to be irretrievable in the league and somewhat perilous.

If Cormack does finally go with experience, it's going to be someone he knows and has some kind of relationship with that he can control.

Probably Gordon Strachan's if he wants it ...

Troubled waters ahead under Captain Cormack...

I think the issue is we are signing these players who aren’t playing as will be an agreement with the agent if you want player X you need to take player Y too. Williams was part of the Clarkson deal. 

[johnnydun]

2 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:

Should've punted beardy and given the Doc the job, (obviously the brains behind the operation) done an outstanding job at Dens, well pleased.

Thank you.

Don't give them any ideas min.

[Sortmeout]

6 hours ago, TheScarf said:

Indeed, I'm not sure his policy of 'Ach just sign the best The Caley player every summer'  will wash these days.  We aren't very good.

Plus, that's Roy MacGregor's gimmick now.

I don’t know we signed Deas from Caley in the summer now that you mention it.

[TheScarf]

30 minutes ago, Sortmeout said:

I don’t know we signed Deas from Caley in the summer now that you mention it.

Did he sign Dan MacKay from Hibs too or was that Wright? Most of his signings are directly from The Caley but sometimes they sign for someone else then he takes them on loan. 

Basically you either sign for him straight from us or you sign for him within a year of leaving us.

[Jacksgranda]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67646291

Well, folks, what do you think?

[coprolite]

1 hour ago, Jacksgranda said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67646291

Well, folks, what do you think?

The weegia were outraged when hibs sacked Jack Ross a week before the final. They'll have an aneurysm if we let Barry win it first. We should do that. 

[johnnydun]

57 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67646291

Well, folks, what do you think?

No.

Aberdeen always have Europe as a target each season, even though he is only 3 wins away from a European place, it has taken him 14 attempts to get 3 wins so far. I can't see him turning it around in the short term.

Is there anything horrific with his tactics or has he just bought below par players?

[DukDukGoose]

2 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67646291

Well, folks, what do you think?

Did chuckle at the "does not use Europe as an excuse part.

54 minutes ago, johnnydun said:

No.

Aberdeen always have Europe as a target each season, even though he is only 3 wins away from a European place, it has taken him 14 attempts to get 3 wins so far. I can't see him turning it around in the short term.

Is there anything horrific with his tactics or has he just bought below par players?

We have a very good squad. The tactics to suit the squad are not being implemented.

[Moorie]

The FMB won’t come out again like they did with Goodwin before the hibs game saying lose and your out and we ended up getting 6 put past us. 
I guess it’s stick with Robson for the final or the intern will be in charge as I don’t have faith in the FMB to appoint anyone very quickly l

[kingjoey]

23 hours ago, DukDukGoose said:

Derek McInnes would be a horrendous appointment unless he's willing to completely change his views on how the scouting and transfer business should be done.

People who continually go on about us getting rid of Derek McInnes when we shouldn't have, have forgotten that his contract was up at the end of that season and he wasn't signing a new one. He was going anyway. 

[Kyle Reese]

On 06/12/2023 at 22:01, Sortmeout said:

From the outside looking in he just seems to be a bit unlikeable in how he comes across in interviews etc.

Also, and I know this shouldn’t matter but in my head it does, he just looks a bit scrappy. I’m not saying that he needs to wear a suit etc because I don’t think that’s the answer I just think he’s one of those types of guys who just looks a bit rough regardless. He doesn’t seem to be the type of person to instill confidence or require your respect.

He looks like a dinner lady. 

[tarapoa]

What happened to the tradition of Boxing Day football?

Crowds often much bigger than they ordinarily would be due to returning expats/students etc, or people just looking to get out of the house.

I do not see any reason why AFC v Motherwell could not be a Boxing Day 3pm fixture - that is a Tuesday, between Saturday matches at Dens and the following Sat at home to Smurn.

Instead they have decided the Motherwell match will be on the Wednesday night - why?

 

[starryfish]

5 hours ago, johnnydun said:

No.

Aberdeen always have Europe as a target each season, even though he is only 3 wins away from a European place, it has taken him 14 attempts to get 3 wins so far. I can't see him turning it around in the short term.

Is there anything horrific with his tactics or has he just bought below par players?

We’ve plenty good players, seen a lot poorer squads in my time watching the Dons, just not being used well enough. My hope is that when a half decent manager gets appointed he can turn us round quite quickly 

[Moorie]

22 minutes ago, tarapoa said:

What happened to the tradition of Boxing Day football?

Crowds often much bigger than they ordinarily would be due to returning expats/students etc, or people just looking to get out of the house.

I do not see any reason why AFC v Motherwell could not be a Boxing Day 3pm fixture - that is a Tuesday, between Saturday matches at Dens and the following Sat at home to Smurn.

Instead they have decided the Motherwell match will be on the Wednesday night - why?

 

I’d more likely attended if it was a Boxing Day 3pm fixture. My year to work between Christmas and new year so going give it a miss 

[tarapoa]

12 minutes ago, starryfish said:

We’ve plenty good players, seen a lot poorer squads in my time watching the Dons, just not being used well enough. My hope is that when a half decent manager gets appointed he can turn us round quite quickly 

The problem with waiting  i.e. giving him until the winter break to see where we are, is that the league fixtures when we return from that are theoretically much tougher than what's ahead of us this month.

After his first couple of games, Barry himself benefited from a very nice run of winnable matches against largely bottom six/ off-form teams, with only the one game a week to worry about (and not even any Scottish Cup distractions).

If the club decide a change is needed - they may as well do it at a time where someone can try and resurrect some belief into what would normally be a realistic 11-15pts target in the matches following the cup final.  I think we will end up needing that to avoid the season being a complete trainwreck in terms of the league campaign.

[Game of throw-ins]

5 hours ago, kingjoey said:

People who continually go on about us getting rid of Derek McInnes when we shouldn't have, have forgotten that his contract was up at the end of that season and he wasn't signing a new one. He was going anyway. 

If you really think that I have a bridge you might be interested in.

[Dons_1988]

31 minutes ago, Game of throw-ins said:

If you really think that I have a bridge you might be interested in.

You often pop up with quite a lot of innuendo whenever mcinnes is mentioned. 

The relationship between cormack and mcinnes was clearly different to that with Milne and cormack had a different vision for how to structure the club going forward. It’s then entirely believable that there would be no contract renewal. 

If you know different then fine, share it. But if you feel you can’t share it, the ‘oh you believe that? You’re thick’ act is pretty shite behaviour. 

[lubo_blaha]

It shouldn’t need to be said again but it was 100% time to go for McInnes.

He was backed financially on the back of his success and the recruitment got worse and worse. Results and performances were sliding and the football was turgid. Additionally, Milne had handed over the keys to the whole “football department” to him and trying to implement any kind of modern structure with a HoR / DoF etc would’ve been difficult. We needed to move away from his brexit-proof scouting strategy.

It’s been worse since he left but that doesn’t mean it was the wrong call for him to go.