Blaven Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I am happy to admit when I am wrong. Oh and do not try to be a patronising c**t. I must take offence at you claiming that I'm trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I am happy to admit when I am wrong. Unlike your avatar who never needed to. He had a knack of knowing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Plan B is probably to use the pound for a period of time with no CU while setting up our own currency That is indeed plan B. It is not deemed prudent to reveal this presently, as the Yes side will be best served if it is kept secret until post Indy negotiations commence. The new currency option, is being robustly explored at this very time and findings will be presented to The Scottish Government shortly. The UKG is of a mind, that if The SG do not have a plan B, then the UK will have the upper hand in the negotiations. ''We'll allow a currency union if we get xy & z''. It is smart to let them believe they are in control. This is the point when plan B is revealed, with the statement ''stick your fkg pound and your fkg debt, we'll pin our pound to your's for the next 3-5 yrs and then we'll be using this and get they nukes to fk right fkg now. To me it is basically like asking 'what's Plan B if tomorrow isn't Thursday?'. Of course there will be a currency union. Was that made clear to your average punter last night though? Unfortunately, no it was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Wasn't there a currency union between the UK and the US in the form of the Bretton Woods agreement? Or is my history sketchy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I must take offence at you claiming that I'm trying. Oh there is no doubt here: You are very trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Yup and shame on you for me having to point it out to you My excuse is that I'm on the phone, what's yours, old boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaven Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Oh there is no doubt here: You are very trying. Pleasing. Just part of your penance. What. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 My excuse is that I'm on the phone, what's yours, old boy? My excuse for my poor cut and paste was also my phone. Glad to see you have seen sense on the oil point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taza Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Comments like this is why many posters here see you as an utter and complete fanny. Beaten to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 My excuse for my poor cut and paste was also my phone. Glad to see you have seen sense on the oil point. What oil point? The revenues on oil in Scotlands sector will go to Scotland treasury. There is no oil point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 What oil point? The revenues on oil in Scotlands sector will go to Scotland treasury. There is no oil point. Ffs man. Go and have a read at the last couple of pages on the oil thread.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Ffs man. Go and have a read at the last couple of pages on the oil thread. Have done, international law on mineral rights did not change because of any of those posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 You'll use the pound but in the way third world countries use the dollar. No control, no say, no economic input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Sorry, if posted already but here's more support for a CU from an English economist. Can't believe Darling is perceived to have 'won' by simply repeating 'what is plan b'. http://www.cityam.com/article/1394565144/big-independence-lie-scotland-could-keep-pound TRUTH is usually the first casualty of political battles, as it is of war. I believe that Scotland and England are individually stronger for being part of the UK, but 25 years in currency markets tell me that the No campaign’s argument that Scotland cannot keep the pound is false. It would certainly be a limited version of independence, but there is nothing stopping an independent Scotland from declaring sterling sole legal tender and borrowing it on the financial markets to hold in reserve. However much it may appear to be like having your cake and eating it, neither action requires the permission of the rest of the UK. First, the list of countries that have adopted a currency issued by another state, outside formal agreement, officially or not, includes past monetary sinners like Russia in the 1920s, Mexico in the 1980s and many others. Today, it also includes about 30 small countries from Andorra to Panama and the Vatican that have officially chosen to do so. History and the present day teach us that currency substitution is possible. It should also be easier for Scotland than others, because it already uses sterling and its economy is tightly integrated into the rest of the UK economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tio Pepe Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Sorry, if posted already but here's more support for a CU from an English economist. Can't believe Darling is perceived to have 'won' by simply repeating 'what is plan b'. http://www.cityam.com/article/1394565144/big-independence-lie-scotland-could-keep-pound That's not support for a currency union. The only thing that is supported is the union. Thereafter the commentator merely states facts about using a currency of choice. That is not the same thing as a currency union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Christ. How the hell is this moron allowed to be first minister of the devolved parliament? I lament the day Alex Salmond is head of an actual independent country. Wonder if Darling still wants a 'Workers Republic'? Maybe that explains his ruinous time as chancellor? Destroying from within? He kept his own wealth though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 That's not support for a currency union. The only thing that is supported is the union. Thereafter the commentator merely states facts about using a currency of choice. That is not the same thing as a currency union. It means that we can use the pound, offically or not. And there's plenty of examples. You know it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 It means that we can use the pound, offically or not. Fcuk, really? This is incredible news. Gamechanger!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tio Pepe Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 It means that we can use the pound, offically or not. And there's plenty of examples. You know it makes sense. Anyone with working brain cells knows Scotland can keep using the pound. You stated that the article supported a currency union. It does not. The only thing the article supports is the current union that the SNP are so desparate to get out of (or get out of parts to be more accurate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Anyone with working brain cells knows Scotland can keep using the pound. You stated that the article supported a currency union. It does not. The only thing the article supports is the current union that the SNP are so desparate to get out of (or get out of parts to be more accurate). Keep the pound, CU... We're being told by the antis that it "won't" happen. It will. As to the Union - I guess 'parts' of us are independent already. We just want the rest. Though to be fair, 'parts' of the UK are not independent either, not least our expensive nuclear 'deterrent' which we pay for, but needs say-so from the US if we actually want to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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