Which football fanbase is most pro/anti independence?

[Ross.]

From the Clydebank fans I have discussed the topic with and based on what I have seen on the clubs message board, I would say it is split around 75/25 in favour of yes.

Of the Celtic fans I know, I would say it's around the same(75/25) in favour of yes. Of the Rangers fans I know I would put it at around 60/40 in favour of no.

[Casual Bystander]

I think St Johnstone are mainly for yes.

You are the first St Johnstone voter on this board I have seen that is backing yes. I've not been around long and I don't look at St Johnstone posters comments with any great interest but as it is I don't think I've seen any on here say they are supporting yes.

[Thumper]

Seeing as there are not one but two large SNP adverts on the Somerset hoardings, I think any assertion of widespread Unionism in the support is a little overblown. Alloway is rugger territory.

I imagine I'll be casually interrogating people tonight. I reckon quite a few folk I normally stand with are Nos simply because they work at Wellington Square. Conversely, the Ragazzi will be about 200% yes.

[Mr Heliums]

You are the first St Johnstone voter on this board I have seen that is backing yes. I've not been around long and I don't look at St Johnstone posters comments with any great interest but as it is I don't think I've seen any on here say they are supporting yes.

Given Perth has returned an SNP MP for nearly 20 years, and an SNP MSP since the formation of the Scottish parliament, I'd imagine there would be fairly strong support for Yes among Saints fans

[Honest Saints Fan]

We Are Perth forum started a poll yesterday and its currently 24 Yes 3 No. I'm personally voting yes and so is 95% of the Saints support I know.

[sons superhero]

My father and one of my brothers are rangers fans both strong yes voters. The only rangers fan at my work says he is 75% yes whatever that means. The two strongest no voters are celtic fans.

[Mr Heliums]

Two strong no voters I've encountered were a Hearts fan at work, who almost suffered an aneurism as he explained that he'd help the UK Government put barbed wire across the border if we voted 'yes'; and a Celtic fan on holiday last year apoplectic about unexplained 'unforgivable SNP lies on pensions'.

What has struck me is how visceral the argument has been from the 'no' side.

[BerwickMad]

To be fair, you're more likely to spot a Yes voter than a No voter. There may be stickers, polo tops and banners all over the country for Yes, but your average No voter will be more likely to do nothing like that. It's the same with anything. The people who want change will make all the noise.

[Mr Heliums]

To be fair, you're more likely to spot a Yes voter than a No voter. There may be stickers, polo tops and banners all over the country for Yes, but your average No voter will be more likely to do nothing like that. It's the same with anything. The people who want change will make all the noise.

I also think that many who will vote no simply wish this referendum wasn't taking place. I don't often hear an outright 'no', but when someone suggests that it's all a waste of time, or the referendum debates were just noise, they might as well put on a BT badge, because they'll vote no. I suspect even if the referendum result is a massive 'no', 'yes' voters will still be glad the debate took place.

[Ross.]

I also think that many who will vote no simply wish this referendum wasn't taking place. I don't often hear an outright 'no', but when someone suggests that it's all a waste of time, or the referendum debates were just noise, they might as well put on a BT badge, because they'll vote no. I suspect even if the referendum result is a massive 'no', 'yes' voters will still be glad the debate took place.

I think the debate taking place means that whatever happens now, there is an inevitability that it will happen eventually. There will have to be changes in the make up of the UK, not just in the case of Scotland but also in some of the regions in England who are starting to waken up to the fact that they are hardly getting a great deal from things. Worst case scenario is that it will eventually lead to a federal UK and full fiscal autonomy for Scotland, which to me is probably the best option anyway.

[Mr Bairn]

Given Perth has returned an SNP MP for nearly 20 years, and an SNP MSP since the formation of the Scottish parliament, I'd imagine there would be fairly strong support for Yes among Saints fans

Perthshire is a tricky one. It has an SNP plurality, but a lot of Conservative voters as well. I feel like Perthshire will be marginally No, maybe 55-45.

I think the debate taking place means that whatever happens now, there is an inevitability that it will happen eventually. There will have to be changes in the make up of the UK, not just in the case of Scotland but also in some of the regions in England who are starting to waken up to the fact that they are hardly getting a great deal from things. Worst case scenario is that it will eventually lead to a federal UK and full fiscal autonomy for Scotland, which to me is probably the best option anyway.

Hear hear!

[Casual Bystander]

To be fair, you're more likely to spot a Yes voter than a No voter.

I think the blinkers and knuckles dragging along the floor tend to give away the No voters.

[forever_blue]

I think the blinkers and knuckles dragging along the floor tend to give away the No voters.

hawl , a make sure my blinkers are firmly secured on and never dragging along the floor thank you very much. my knuckles cant helped

[Thumper]

To be fair, you're more likely to spot a Yes voter than a No voter. There may be stickers, polo tops and banners all over the country for Yes, but your average No voter will be more likely to do nothing like that. It's the same with anything. The people who want change will make all the noise.

I find that Unionists are fairly easy to recognise: the drool on the cheek, the glazed look in the eyes, the Union Jack pyjamas (or faded Rangers-that-was replica shirt) being worn on an afternoon stroll down to Tesco.

[Casual Bystander]

hawl , a make sure my blinkers are firmly secured on and never dragging along the floor thank you very much. my knuckles cant helped

Ah, you see the trick is to hook the arms up and over the oppressive yolk of Westminster, thus meaning those knuckles don't drag..

[forever_blue]

I find that Unionists are fairly easy to recognise: the drool on the cheek, the glazed look in the eyes, the Union Jack pyjamas (or faded Rangers-that-was replica shirt) being worn on an afternoon stroll down to Tesco.

where is as yer nationalist are the ones walking around wearing their tartan bunnet , cluthcing a half flask of whisky , with an old shperds walking stick shouting on their two wee scotty dugs rob and roy as they pop out to the shop to stock up on shortbread and irn bru for their nightly viewing of braveheart.

[doulikefish]

ur they , aye ?

fs you will be luck to find 3 yes voters throughout the whole orange lodge yet you know all 3 of them.

i actually know about 6 but not all rangers fans

[forever_blue]

i actually know about 6 but not all rangers fans

aye nae bother mate , al chat to you when you land back on earth

[QPSAFalkirkFirm]

What has struck me is how visceral the argument has been from the 'no' side.

Hopefully many others will be struck the same. It's painful to watch and listen to so many who hear things that aren't said rather than deal with change.

To be fair, you're more likely to spot a Yes voter than a No voter. There may be stickers, polo tops and banners all over the country for Yes, but your average No voter will be more likely to do nothing like that. It's the same with anything. The people who want change will make all the noise.

Just you hang on to that desperate hope.

[BerwickMad]

I don't need to hang on to it. It's a fact. The Yes people are making all the noise and are all over the place, but No are still ahead in the poles. You don't tend to get people passionately protesting for something they already have.